Bouchard v Sharapova - Semi Final French Open 2014

sharapova is such classless player

Will Laura commentate during Genie's matches at Wimbledon?

She has been Outstanding Caramba all to her, she deserves to be in final ..But as people have already said looks like experience got her here...I actually wanted these 2 in the final

OH GENIE

*head in hands*

netmugger

genie

A couple of missed volleys now.

this would be the break if she didn't mug last 2 points..

Sharapova is 12th in the open era for most slams won, don't think she will be going down as a great in anyones book

genie went full retard. tipical case of a more talented player beating herself

typical case of a seething

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:31PM, mesmerised wrote:

Sharapova is 12th in the open era for most slams won, don't think she will be going down as a great in anyones book

She'll go down as a great in plenty of people's books

2 more

A big step forward compared to her AO SF though. Her time will come.

maria playing better, hitting bigger, mentally stronger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sx0g3eh2Jw

Who you like in the next one?

SP was value all along, bergy?

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:31PM, mesmerised wrote:

Sharapova is 12th in the open era for most slams won, don't think she will be going down as a great in anyones book

Not many people win Wimbledon at 17

petko's win will be nice.

halep had a very easy road so far. this should play a bad joke to her.

not betting there though.

Kodak moment!

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:32PM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:

Jun  5, 2014 --  4:31PM, mesmerised wrote:Sharapova is 12th in the open era for most slams won, don't think she will be going down as a great in anyones bookShe'll go down as a great in plenty of people's books

really? a true great surely wins more than 4 slams in 10 years

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:32PM, jin_kazz wrote:

typical case of a seething

you have no idea what you are talking about

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:32PM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:

Jun  5, 2014 --  4:31PM, mesmerised wrote:Sharapova is 12th in the open era for most slams won, don't think she will be going down as a great in anyones bookShe'll go down as a great in plenty of people's books

6 players have career slams, yet one of them isn't a "great" lol

Masha is an all time great who was unfortunately in the same era as Serena Williams.

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:33PM, ciani wrote:

Jun  5, 2014 --  4:32PM, jin_kazz wrote:typical case of a seethingyou have no idea what you are talking about

of course, of course

sharapova is a great overachiever

help is bettors favourite next match

jin I dont have financial interest in this match

She's won every slam too, She will be remembered as a great imo.

Plus i think she will end up with 7 or 8 slams

No I mean truly great, she won't ever be mentioned alongisde true greats like Serena, steffi graf, navratilova, one of the best in her era, but an era completely dominated by her "biggest rival" she's lost to in every match for 9 and a half years

it's a cop out to say she "was unlucky to be in serenas era" - she has only ever been knocked out in slams by serena on 3 occasions I think I posted earlier, what about the other 30 odd slams

Hopefully bouchard, stevens, halep will stop her winnign many more

with pova playing the match never ends quickly

go Genie.

best rally of the tournament?

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:36PM, mesmerised wrote:

No I mean truly great, she won't ever be mentioned alongisde true greats like Serena, steffi graf, navratilova, one of the best in her era, but an era completely dominated by her "biggest rival" she's lost to in every match for 9 and a half yearsit's a cop out to say she "was unlucky to be in serenas era" - she has only ever been knocked out in slams by serena on 3 occasions I think I posted earlier, what about the other 30 odd slams

bad shoulder, Azarenka, Pennetta and women problem if you know what I mean.

fighterouchard!

All the top players have had injury problems, she has played lots and lots of slams

never in doubt

povava avvavavavavavavavavvavavavavav

great match, a future champion in the making

i hope she loses the final

Masha looks awkward showing emotions

not a warm greeting in the end. tennis is a cruel sport..

shoulder injuries are as bad you can get though and even after rehab is done you need a long time to play at even a decent level again.

Just ask Tommy Haas. He has plenty of experience with them.

well done masha ,take down forum favourite next

MST just promised us Genie will win Slams.

mes

if Djokovic retired tomorrow, would he be a great by your terms?

would be a big quitter like Borg imo

I mean seriously, reach the final of RG and then retire from the sport before the final? Quitter

*likely reach

womens tennis is very unpredictable ...gone are the days of wiliams sisters ,steffi etc dominatiing

this is wta baby

2nd and 3rd best clay players going to be in the final, not all that unpredictable

Petkovic is not the 3rd best clay player imo. The title she won was on fake clay

it's just more competitive than ATP

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:43PM, edy wrote:

Petkovic is not the 3rd best clay player imo. The title she won was on fake clay

Petkovic won 100k Marseille this time last year

This time last year she had just lost to a nobody in qualies and was on the verge of going depressive and throwing the towel

I wouldn't put Masha in the same tier as Serena, Graf and Navratilova, but would still consider her an all time great. The fact that she's come back back from so many more injuries makes her results even more impressive.

...then came Marseille and Nürnberg

its more competitive because the standard of play is significantly lower. a player like sharapova would never be as successful in the atp - i would compare her to hewitt

a player like sharapova would never be as successful in the atp

what?

from a talent and skill standpoint

It basically depends how broad you take all time great as.

For me all time great means in the discussion for the best ever. So I wouldn't personally have Sharapova down as that.

Nor would Serena, Graf nor anyone else that has ever and likely will ever play WTA

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:45PM, edy wrote:

This time last year she had just lost to a nobody in qualies and was on the verge of going depressive and throwing the towel

hey, SorA said that Chinese mug was a future top 20!

since sharapova won her first slam  has been knocked out of slams by

French open: Serena / Li na / Henin / Cibulkova / safina / Ivanovic / safina  / henin
wimbledon: De Brito / Lisicki / Kvitova / Serena / Dulko / Kudryavtseva / venus / Mauresmo / Venus /
US open: Azarenka / pennetta / wozniacki / oudin / radwanska / henin / clijsters
Austrlia: cibulkova / li na / azarenka / petkovic / kirilenko / serena / henin / serena /

she may be one of the best players in her era, but an all time great? that's an insult to the likes of serena and graff, who would have sliced her to pieces

Before or after Duckworth has become a top10 player?

Spelling her Graff is an even bigger insult

an all time great - one of the best (10-15) ever
the all time great - GOAT/THE best ever
is how I been taught and how I define it anyway.

nothing against Lars Graff of course. He's awesome

*I have

Jun 5, 2014 -- 4:40PM, aaronh wrote:

mesif Djokovic retired tomorrow, would he be a great by your terms?

absolutely, not just because he's won 6 slams, reached 12 finals, but he has been more than a match for the best players not just in his generation but in history

yeah, it should also not be spelled Graaf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogMRSwk2LpI

mes, you don't think Djokovic would be a quitter for ducking out of the final against Nadal or Murray if he retires tomorrow after having won against Gulbis in the semis?

in those losses fwiw

French Open - 4 champs (2x multi) and a finalist
Wimbledon - 4 champs (2x multi) and a finalist
US Open - 2 champs (both Multi), 2 finalists
Aus - 4 champs (2x multi), 1 finalist

some GOATs like Mel, and the odd losses are when she was coming back from injury

does petkovic have any chances in here?

i don't think so, but didn't vs Errani either

You're making my point aaron, a true great would have lost so many

edy, that's not novaks style

I can't believe you're even trying to put maria on the same pedestal as those genuine greats, you're on the wind up

Doesn't matter if it would be his style. The question was what we'd think of him if he retired tomorrow

from the sport

to be fair graf's competition was quite weak, in the late 80's the previous great ones were over their zenit, and szeles was the only other great player in the 90's, and she was not the same after that terrible incident

Victor The Vampire Mugging...... someone must have spiked his water with essence of garlic

Maria obviously isn't in the top tier of female players (4-5 of them)

but surely is in the 2nd

1 slam between the age of 21-27 is not greatness,

will probably be two now though tbf

Seles only has 1 slam between 21 and 27

I wonder why that was

well Maria was also a non factor at slams for about 2 years

Was Seles the one who was stabbed?

yes

don't open if you don't like....crude humour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBwbJWF8_-Q

seles was graf's biggest rival, she was attacked on court and missed a few slams

sharapova missed three slams since her first slam win 10 years ago, one of the best in her era but imo, not an all time great, second tier as you say

petkovic is looking like me playing tennis... compared to halep lol

that unibet advert....

forum taking the chance to have a quick nap, not much to see here

there's an extra thread for the other semifinal if that's what you mean

oh yeah... thought i was on the rg thread