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mesmerised
07 Mar 14 16:05
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Has been diagnosed with Liver cancerShocked
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Report Biscar Two from a mile back March 7, 2014 4:09 PM GMT
Shocking stuff,good luck to her.
Report Journeyman March 7, 2014 4:14 PM GMT
That's horrible news Sad

Always a great fighter Elena, good luck to her in this more serious fight
Report caramba March 7, 2014 4:15 PM GMT
Sad
Hope she recovers.
Report dlarssonf March 7, 2014 4:17 PM GMT
Sad Best of luck to her
Report The Bhoys March 7, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
Sad hope all works out ok
Report karencarpenter March 7, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
Oh dear that's just awful and sadly not a great chance of beating it when it is in the liver....SadSad
Report DStyle March 7, 2014 5:58 PM GMT
agreed karen, although given that she has primary sclerosing cholangitis there's a chance that she has regular scans and that it's been caught early.

it's very sad news either way given how young she is.
Report edy March 7, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
oh f*ck

best of luck to her
Report ;[p March 7, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
Sad
Report ArmchairIdiot March 7, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
fcking disease doesn't discriminate. Almost 1 in 2 now. It was 1 in 5 20 years ago. Nobody wants to take the blame. It'll cost too much to tell the truth.
Report tweedy March 7, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
Take the 'blame'? Tell the 'truth'? What is he talking about. It's terribly sad and I hope she has all the support she will need. I just counted - I have 34 living relatives - from 22 to 85. None of them have suffered from cancer - so I think the stats are not quite as the idiot (he chose the name!) quotes. I think the biggest and most prevalent in coming years will be dementia and that's because we are all living longer.
Report ArmchairIdiot March 7, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
Well how ignorant and **** of you, Tweedy. Do you think I pluck these things out of my bottom? Go and educate yourself, or maybe you feel it's pointless as because you and your family have lived such a charmed lives, unaffected by the disease? I actually call BS on you anyway. I've got a sister (mother of 2), an uncle and 3 ex work colleagues fighting the disease. My nan, and another uncle died from the disease.

Keep your head in sand, petal, because you're the fecking idiot here pal. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/14/42-percent-britons-get-cancer-n...
Report ArmchairIdiot March 7, 2014 11:10 PM GMT
Dont spout sh!t about things you know feck all about.
Report ;[p March 7, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
probably heart and related  diseases have biggest toll ,obviously cancer is the most scary one due to its sudden and aggressive behaviour and fact it is produced by body itself,fact is only small percentage of mutations are deadly.obviously when major organs like lungs or liver are affected its not a gimme for nobody including people who try to fight against it like scientists and doctors.positives are we dont really know so far her individual case,as sportsman she used to monitored very often as dstyle said and also she will get best possible care for sure and access to newest therapies and best possible care so it will definitely increase Elena chances for positive treatment above average of usuall case.fingers crossed
Report mesmerised March 7, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
tweedy, I think he's talking about the food, drink and cigarette companies, poisoning our bodies with their additives, sugars, high fat content and God knows what else, before processed, manufactured foods, there was nowhere near the number of people being diagnosed with Cancers. The medical industry doesn't want us to find miracle cures for the big C because it would do them out of pocket, the conglomerates want to keep curing us rather than prevent us from getting ill in the first place. The third biggest employer on the planet, the NHS, takes the brunt of it and then we all get a reduced s***** service, that and immigration but that's another story.
Report mesmerised March 7, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
Although that's no way to speak to a womenWink
Report ArmchairIdiot March 7, 2014 11:24 PM GMT
£'s an $'s have caused the increase. No question. The polluting of the food chain to maximise profits, and the huge increase in radio waves due to the mobile phone boom, phone masts, wireless networks etc, to name but two major factors. Quite evidently (Tweedy), and luckily for the big hitters, nobody cares enough to give a sh!t. It's all 'live for now'.
Report ArmchairIdiot March 7, 2014 11:27 PM GMT
Pff, her post was the very opitome of ignorance. I'll let her off if she's 12.
Report ;[p March 7, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
improved diagnosing,knowing cancerous mutations better ,quality of life,massively increased living age,better health care on other fields it all enhanced cancer stats few years back u died before u got cancer because of other diseases which arent deadly now  .obviously direct lung cancer, for example in above 90% of cases is caused by smoking
Report Hank Hill March 7, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
Tweedy - you should count yourself lucky then, as I don't know of a family that I know personally that hasn't faced this disease. Best of luck to Elena in her fight.
Report ;[p March 7, 2014 11:34 PM GMT
our genes getting weakened for example, because of massive improvement in health care in last 100 years or so therefore genes of human in developed countries are more vulnerable to mutations
Report ArmchairIdiot March 7, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
I personally don't think health care improvements are to blame when we're talking about mutating cells. MRSA and other super infections, yes. Look how long they kicked their heels for over coming clean about cigarettes. We're fodder.
Report mesmerised March 7, 2014 11:42 PM GMT
Not an expert on Liver cancer, and I've only known one person to die from cancer, Lung cancer, unfortunant for me it was a relative, one you have what they call 'non small cells', which is what over 80% of diagnosed lung cancer sufferers have, the outlook is bleak and it's more a matter of comfort rather than hope, morphine, being bed ridden, 24 hour care, huge weight loss etc, happens in a blink of an eye, but second hand smoke is just as bad if not worse than first hand, so I'm told.
Report karencarpenter March 8, 2014 12:28 AM GMT
It's actually very simple for Elena. If the cancer is only in her liver and as Dstyle has mentioned she does receive regular scanning, then she has a small but not insignificant chance of beating it. If however it is a metastasis (spread from elsewhere in the body) then it's pretty much certain she will die from it. I am hopeful that it is only in her liver. Poor girl my heart goes out to her and everyone else suffering from this dreadful disease.
Report ;[p March 8, 2014 12:41 AM GMT

Mar 7, 2014 -- 11:40PM, ArmchairIdiot wrote:


I personally don't think health care improvements are to blame when we're talking about mutating cells. MRSA and other super infections, yes. Look how long they kicked their heels for over coming clean about cigarettes. We're fodder.


health care and standard of life improvement vanished loads of used to be deadly diseases and other life situations, which ,sort of ,were selecting weaker individuals and promoted individuals with stronger genes to survive and pass best genes to their offspring . adding average life expectancy sky rocking in past 100 years its certainly giving much bigger platform to all sorts of mutations when weaker genes are prolonging within next generations instead of being eliminated . .obviously mutations are key to life and evolution of life itself but when you starting neutralise impact of natural selection, mutations are branching with wider range and developing structures couldnt survive before naturally in tougher environment , then pass genes forward.
i guess in wildlife cancerous diseases arent that much common, cutting on broken(unsuitable for living)genes quickly(trough natural selection), as within livestock where  those are  common problem within many groups of domestic animals

Report DStyle March 8, 2014 1:28 AM GMT
the major reason cancer is on the increase is because we are all living longer.

fortunately we are close to curing many forms of it.

(yes i know this was said decades ago, but that was hopeful hubris on the part of oncologists, it's a very different situation today)

Complete remission, like spontaneous remission, will almost certainly be affected by immunotherapy rather than chemo.

the biggest issue is the cost of clinical trials and their nature - particuarly in immunotherapy where numerous agents may need to be administered to have a potent effect.
Report ;[p March 8, 2014 2:12 AM GMT
yes costs are crucial in most cases ,health care system is not perfect obviously,not every doctor have talent to do job or is experienced enough to make good decisions,hospitals are overflowing with patients ,all the cost cutting issue is base of every public hospital existence, never  enough money whatever funds are,people are often scared or cant recognise problems themselves quickly enough postponing things ,rarely do much needed casual scans and health checks and is not only stressful but expensive and requires  time which is value in our pace of live.
all that aspects makes that many cases are overlooked,decisions are made too slow,mistakes at first stage of diagnosing problem etc.where in terms of most nasty cancers time of right diagnose is the most crucial thing and has massive impact on recovery or even remission chances.so all the percentages are different in different material status for the individual patients  and life style is also important. as sportswoman theres huge chance that unwelcome changes were spotted very early and she will definitely get best treatment possible.also quite important issue is the fact that most cancer treatments are very aggressive and destructive to the human body therefore chances are increasing when patient has strong body and mentality which i suppose is positive aspect in Elena case
Report disicipline=£££££££££££££sssss March 8, 2014 1:35 PM GMT
sad newsSad good luck with the fight elena.

and yes i think its 'the wonderful agents'in foods  that also contributes to this deadly killer.
Report Mrdozey1 March 8, 2014 10:07 PM GMT
One of the previous posters stated about mental strength helping in dealing with cancer.

8years ago I was diagnosed as having angina and was rushed into hospital directly from my G.P.'s surgery.

After being there for 5 days they managed to get my blood etc right and I had 6 stents put in my arteries.

My consultant at the Heart Centre told me in no uncertain terms, stop smoking or you will die. After smoking 30 or so cigarettes a day from 16 till 60 I stopped and haven't had one since.

4 years ago I had a bad chest, went back to the same G.P. who sent me straight to hospital for an x-ray.

And yes ,  I was diagnosed with lung cancer.

Must admit I am quite a strong-minded character. and I dealt with it in my own way. But I was determined to fight the horrible
Report Mrdozey1 March 8, 2014 10:17 PM GMT
sorry pressed wrong button

disease. My surgeon advised me that I had 60/40 chance of getting through the operation at my age (65), and I had to promise him I would have chemo after the op, and as you can tell from this post I am still here, and surviving my 6 monthly check-ups, which are nerve wrecking.
The irony was I recovered well from the operation having had 2 sections of my right lung removed. was only in Wythenshawe hospital for six days, but the bloody chemo almost killed me.

I feel desperately sorry for this young athlete , and can only hope she recovers.

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Report DStyle March 10, 2014 10:35 AM GMT
best of luck and health to you mrdozey1.

chemo, particularly the old school stuff, is brutal, but of course necessary in many cases.

there's nothing sadder than seeing people with terminal cancer undergo brutal chemo to no avail. Worse still, it's often described as brave. In reality, it's the actions and decisions of people like Wilko Johnson that are truly brave.
Report aaronh May 4, 2014 11:38 PM BST
MailOnline Sport ‏@MailSport  7m
Former British tennis No 1, Elena Baltacha, has died at the age of 30

Sad
Report GRANTCKING May 5, 2014 12:05 AM BST
RIP
just heard it on the news R.I.PSad
Report Dan Chipowski May 5, 2014 12:10 AM BST
Sad
Report Kriskin May 5, 2014 12:30 AM BST
Very sad news.
Report lurka May 5, 2014 12:31 AM BST
RIP. V sad. Only watched her play not very long ago.
Report Glossy May 5, 2014 12:31 AM BST
Awful news. No age at all.

RIP.
Report EUGENE KRABS May 5, 2014 12:31 AM BST
truly shocking news Sad
Report DStyle May 5, 2014 1:00 AM BST
absolutely awful.
Report Woodshires May 5, 2014 1:00 AM BST
Sad
Report breadnbutter May 5, 2014 1:25 AM BST
RIP
Report attitude adjuster May 5, 2014 1:28 AM BST
Just terrible Sad

Speechless.RIP
Report edy May 5, 2014 8:56 AM BST
Rest in Peace Elena
Report Westender May 5, 2014 9:01 AM BST
Awful news

RIP Elena Baltacha
Report dlarssonf May 5, 2014 9:21 AM BST
Awful news SadSad  RIP Elena
Report caramba May 5, 2014 9:54 AM BST
Sad
Report leefee May 5, 2014 9:56 AM BST
So sad.   

Cancer is such a ba**ard.

R.I.P. Elena
Report Platini May 5, 2014 10:14 AM BST
Just heard the news. Can't believe it. Sad  30 years old  FFS.
Lovely girl she was as well. Thoughts with her family. RIP Elena
Report DonNo1 May 5, 2014 10:45 AM BST
Horrible news, poor girl
Report geordie1956 May 5, 2014 10:54 AM BST
Very sad news
Report Latalomne May 5, 2014 11:56 AM BST
Dreadful, dreadful news.  RIP Elena.  Sad
Report currant bun May 5, 2014 1:00 PM BST
RIP Elena Baltacha
Report pandora1963 May 5, 2014 1:36 PM BST
RIP Sad. BBC whosed footage of her beating Coetzer at wimbledon earlier, happpy memories,shame cancer claimed another so young Sad
Report Dodgepicker May 5, 2014 3:26 PM BST
RIP
Report jumpstart May 5, 2014 5:54 PM BST
gutted
Report sammybizzle May 6, 2014 2:38 PM BST
her body got so thin in that haunting pic of her in a wheelchair.She seemed like such a selfless good person which makes this all the more upsetting.She was loved by all and if you watch her clips on youtube with heather watson, you can see. desperately sad.So unfair.

A sad reminder to live as much as you can whilst you can
Report The Bhoys May 6, 2014 6:03 PM BST
Terrible, if she was only diagnosed 2 months ago how did she fade so fast?
Report smb360 May 7, 2014 3:07 AM BST
probably because it was at an advanced stage when it was diagnosed

liver cancer is also one of the worst
Report Platini May 7, 2014 11:15 AM BST
She was diagnosed in January, but didn't announce it till March. Still very fast tho. Liver is one of the worst I believe (along with lung and pancreatic) We should be investing more heavily in cancer research. Instead of selling out to the pharma giantsSad
Report The Bhoys May 7, 2014 11:17 AM BST
Very sad indeed, if you did have cancer how would u now? Would there be signs like tired all the time or something?
Report schillaci May 7, 2014 11:20 AM BST
so sad about elena, rip elena
Report dlarssonf May 7, 2014 2:44 PM BST
Loads of different signs The Bhoys and loads of different cancers.  A friend of min had a very sore throat for about 3 weeks and was never ill before.  Went to the doctors who took a blood test and a week later diagnosed with AML ( leukemia ) , passed away 9 weeks later at the age of 31SadSad  It's a horrific diseaseSadSad
Report The Bhoys May 7, 2014 2:57 PM BST
Thats sad mate, my granda died of lukemia, he deterated so fast but ur mate was so young
Report DStyle May 7, 2014 3:14 PM BST
the problem with the liver and pancreas is that they are both so so soft and so homogenous that the tumour can go undetected for such a long time, without presenting any symptoms so it's often caught very late; the liver is also a prime site for metastases as well if it's not primary liver cancer.

as for spending money on cancer, there is plenty. the two primary issues delaying progressing are the cost of clinical trials and the inability of terminal patients to be non-litigious guinea pigs.
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