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deadbrain59
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serena williams outright winner 2.28
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Report aaronh May 28, 2013 4:43 PM BST
Laugh
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 4:54 PM BST
baltacha v erakovic set betting gbp matched 48. same story in many more.

if it's a rubbish match in store people are less likely to bet on it.
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 4:55 PM BST
that's £48.00. And it's scheduled to start next match up.
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 4:56 PM BST
(Forty eight pounds).
Report aaronh May 28, 2013 4:57 PM BST
well it's not because it's been cancelled for the day
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 4:58 PM BST
30k matched on the match odds in that match though, the reason why nothing is getting matched in that set betting market is because everyone is trying to take massive edges for themselves
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 4:59 PM BST
And congrats on picking a secondary market in one of the biggest mug matches of the day that hasn't even started yet and has been postponed in order to 'illustrate' your non-existent point
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 5:00 PM BST
It's the same in a lot of them. Have a look through them today and tomorrow, you'll be able to spot a pattern.
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 5:04 PM BST
I don't mean to be rude but there's multiple amounts matched on ATP games compared to WTA. Some WTA matches in early rounds have next to nothing on them.
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 5:09 PM BST
There is going to be some variance here and there but look at two matches currently in-play both about 4-4 in first set

Kohlschreiber v Vessely 450k match odds 4k set betting
Cornet v Koehler 330k match odds 7k set betting

Not really all that different, and Kohlschreiber is a much bigger name than Cornet. I can find a bunch of matches featuring ATP mugs like Kubot where only 1k has been matched on the set betting. Sure, that's more than the few hundred that has been matched on most of the less notable WTA matches, but a few hundred versus 1-2k  in most cases isn't that much difference. It's still insignificant volume. The set betting money usually turns up in play, and set betting rarely has very much volume traded in these lesser matches.
Report aaronh May 28, 2013 5:10 PM BST

May 28, 2013 -- 11:04AM, YOMOMMA wrote:


I don't mean to be rude but there's multiple amounts matched on ATP games compared to WTA. Some WTA matches in early rounds have next to nothing on them.


seriously, who cares about how much money has been matched?

Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 5:12 PM BST
R u on the wind up, u can't just look at one match. I'll do an analysis when I get time for tomorrow's matches and get back to you.

If you're betting it matters how much has been matched because if no one bets anything you can't make any money.
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 5:15 PM BST
the french open's been really quiet most likely because of no pictures, wimbledon will illustrate the massive difference in betting.
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 5:17 PM BST
No, but I can't be bothered to look through all the matches.

12m matched on Bartoli match odds btw.
Report aaronh May 28, 2013 5:19 PM BST
R u on the wind up, u can't just look at one match.

says the person who picked the most obscure match on a backdoor court
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 5:22 PM BST
There's loads like the one I chose. How is it obscure, it's a british betting exchange a brit playing?

I'm going now, got bets to sort out. Bye, bye.
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 5:23 PM BST
It's true what he says to a degree, most of the obscure WTA matches have a few hundred on set betting right now whereas the ATP one have 1-2k. But that's not a lot of total volume, and not a lot of difference when you think about the total volume of money that is swishing around on these matches in the match odds.

You can say that set betting is not very liquid, and it does appear to be slightly more liquid in the men's than the women's, but on the whole it's like saying that one mouse is bigger than another mouse. It's still a mouse. The real problem is that there's not a lot of interest in the set betting full stop (in the less notable matches).
Report mouse trap May 28, 2013 5:43 PM BST
be careful with the mouse!
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 7:17 PM BST
Kubot v Teixeira had a little over 1k pre-off on set betting, Baltacha v Erakovic had £48.

Now, with the men's match in the second set but the women's still fairly early in the first, they've pretty much got the same amount matched.

Another scenario supporting the idea that no-one lumps on set betting in mugfests pre-match.
Report smb360 May 28, 2013 7:18 PM BST
(And the women's match has caught up)
Report deadbrain59 May 28, 2013 7:50 PM BST
sharapova ,35,000 ,matched ,next match,
Report deadbrain59 May 28, 2013 7:52 PM BST
azer,36, 000, matched next match.
Report aaronh May 28, 2013 7:52 PM BST
Sharapova not playing for 2 days
Report morrillo May 28, 2013 8:01 PM BST
is there more matches on tonight? bet365 are not putting any markets up,
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 8:05 PM BST
No more starting.
Report YOMOMMA May 28, 2013 8:06 PM BST
Womens is over for the day, 4 mens matches still in progress.
Report VonWafer May 28, 2013 11:05 PM BST
Possible Upsets DAY 4:

*Svitolina @ 3.85 (ETTML)

*Jovanovski @ 4.2 (ETTML)

*Rodgers @ 6.8 (ETTML)

*Schmiedlova @ 2.42 (ETTML)

*Puig @ 2.4 (ETTML)

*Torro Flor @ 3.33 (ETTML)


**(ETTML;Expected to trade much lower)

Goodluck if u taking the dive with me.....
Report n88uk May 29, 2013 12:48 AM BST
I am hoping Jovanovski gets even bigger but it does look an interesting price.
Report VonWafer May 29, 2013 12:17 PM BST
Schmiedlova In !

One down 5 to go, lets see how the other fair...
Report VonWafer May 29, 2013 12:18 PM BST
others*
Report monaug5kid May 29, 2013 5:02 PM BST
wozniacki is messing up!
Report deadbrain59 May 29, 2013 7:34 PM BST
SERENA 6-1 ,6-2.Happy
Report Platini May 29, 2013 8:12 PM BST
and now she drifts

market waking up I wonder?
Report VonWafer May 29, 2013 8:17 PM BST
Possible Upsets DAY 4:

*Svitolina @ 3.85 (ETTML) ~~~~  Led 5-1 in the first set breaker… 1.8 Low

*Jovanovski @ 4.2 (ETTML)~~~~ In!

*Rodgers @ 6.8 (ETTML)~~~~~  Led a set and a break up… 1.5 Low

*Schmiedlova @ 2.42 (ETTML)~~~~~ In!

*Puig @ 2.4 (ETTML) ~~~~ In!


Pretty clean sweep, tho not impressed with Torro-"Flaw"
Decent enough...

*Torro Flor @ 3.33 (ETTML) ~~~~ Led 3-1 in the first, 1.9  Low
Report ;[p May 29, 2013 8:18 PM BST
nice one
Report ;[p May 29, 2013 8:22 PM BST
if you traded out at right moment question is if you traded out winners as well at some point. anyways good picks
Report n88uk May 29, 2013 9:04 PM BST

May 29, 2013 -- 2:12PM, Platini wrote:


and now she drifts market waking up I wonder?


Market thinks Serena was only suppose to drop 1 game today obviously Crazy.

Report VonWafer May 29, 2013 10:26 PM BST
Upsets look unlikely for Day6

Some pretty ok dogs like Duque Marino(2.24),Soler Espinosa(3.00) and Flipkens(2.12) to trade lower inplay but only Paula Ormaechea(2.6) strikes me as a possible UPSET
Report VonWafer May 29, 2013 10:30 PM BST
Oopz
Upsets look unlikely for Day 5 *
Report deadbrain59 May 30, 2013 12:05 PM BST
whats happening with the ormachea match.Confused
Report n88uk May 30, 2013 12:41 PM BST
It's raining.
Report VonWafer May 30, 2013 1:37 PM BST
Ormaechea In!
Report deadbrain59 May 30, 2013 1:45 PM BST
WDWAFER,I OWE U ONE, 2.58.WinkHappyHappy
Report deadbrain59 May 30, 2013 4:33 PM BST
li na ,out.
Report deadbrain59 May 30, 2013 8:20 PM BST
new start tine tomorrow 7am.GrinGrin
Report VonWafer May 31, 2013 10:19 AM BST
Day 6 Possible Upset Pick:

I like Petra Cetkovska @ 3
Report AFL May 31, 2013 10:23 AM BST
Barty.
Report deadbrain59 May 31, 2013 8:13 PM BST
serena 6-0 ,6-3.
Report smb360 May 31, 2013 8:22 PM BST
Report ;[p May 31, 2013 8:23 PM BST
Laugh
Report n88uk May 31, 2013 9:35 PM BST
Serena based on today is nowhere near unbeatable here. The scoreline makes it look like she was unstoppable, as Inverdale likes to make out, but ITV didn't show it, and Serena wasn't actually that good today. Cirstea was very bad first set, there are people in the draw who can beat Serena on today's form.
Report smb360 May 31, 2013 10:10 PM BST
I would LOVE to see Errani take Serena out
Report deadbrain59 May 31, 2013 10:21 PM BST
I THINK SHES BORED,Tongue Out
Report deadbrain59 May 31, 2013 10:25 PM BST
1.67 NOW.Mischief
Report n88uk May 31, 2013 11:44 PM BST

May 31, 2013 -- 4:10PM, smb360 wrote:


I would LOVE to see Errani take Serena out


Tennisforum would go into complete meltdown if this happened. I wish Kuznetsova matches had been streamed to get an idea how she is playing. She is the sort of player who can give Serena problems, and isn't someone who will just necessarily fold like a cheap tent. Of course she is nowhere near guaranteed to win her next match either.

Report aaronh May 31, 2013 11:59 PM BST
I think losing a set 6-1 on clay to Rybarikova sums up Sveta's bad side

she would probably beat Serena then lose to Aga LaughCrazy
Report n88uk June 1, 2013 12:22 AM BST
Yes that is the thing, but she is someone who at least has it in them to stand up to Serena. You don't really know how good someone is until they are actually tested. Lets get Serena to 3-3 at least, see how she reacts. There is a chance Serena just steam trains to the title, but history suggests it is unlikely. If I was an outrights trading man though I would have taken a Sharapova/Azarenka combination. This was available at 3/1 a couple of days ago (still 2.9/1 now). They wouldn't be much longer than that if at all vs Serena in the final. If Serena somehow loses before the final you are on a complete goldmine, and it's hard to envision a different finalist from the bottom half.
Report ;[p June 1, 2013 12:25 AM BST
why she wouldnt lose to agaConfused
Report smb360 June 1, 2013 12:25 AM BST
Stosur to beat Kvitova, then Masha, then Vika, then Serena Cool
Report ;[p June 1, 2013 12:46 AM BST
Cool
Report aaronh June 1, 2013 12:57 AM BST

May 31, 2013 -- 6:25PM, ;[p wrote:


why she wouldnt lose to aga


Third    Svetlana Kuznetsova    Agnieszka Radwanska    6-1 6-2

Plain

Report n88uk June 1, 2013 1:01 AM BST

May 31, 2013 -- 6:25PM, smb360 wrote:


Stosur to beat Kvitova, then Masha, then Vika, then Serena


That's Stosur out tomorrow then Wink.

Report smb360 June 1, 2013 1:06 AM BST
Angry
Report deadbrain59 June 1, 2013 11:07 AM BST
azer,1st set.4-6.WhoopsWhoops
Report petr cech June 1, 2013 11:49 AM BST
I know she's only playing Errorkovic but I'm impressed with Sloane Stephens on the dirt.
Report deadbrain59 June 2, 2013 8:26 AM BST
SERENA 1.58 NOW.MischiefMischief
Report lurka June 2, 2013 8:48 AM BST
Serena will have to have an injury or total off day to lose to any of the other 15
Report aaronh June 2, 2013 11:35 AM BST
ffs sammy I'm seething Angry
Report aaronh June 2, 2013 11:36 AM BST
Sveta will beat Serena yw and HTH
Report Platini June 2, 2013 12:03 PM BST
^ her H2H doesn't suggest that.  I'd prefer Kerber to play her.
Report aaronh June 2, 2013 12:06 PM BST
21/2009 WTA French Open (FRA)    Clay    Svetlana Kuznetsova    Serena Williams    7-6(3) 5-7 7-5         1/4    1.99    -    1.8
Report Platini June 2, 2013 12:11 PM BST
really?  (WTAtennis.com stats compiler thinks its 4-0 Serena). Well, that's more encouraging. Need somebody with form on clay, esp at RG.
Report n88uk June 2, 2013 12:16 PM BST
Lol at the odds of that match then. Serena will be 1.14 this year.
Report deadbrain59 June 2, 2013 12:34 PM BST
KERBER 8 SEED ,OUT.Whoops
Report Platini June 2, 2013 3:18 PM BST
Quite encouraging stats for Kuzzy. Serena leads 6-2 in H2H, but Kuzzy beat her in their only match at RG.
Also, of Serena's 6 victories, she lost the first set in 3 of them, and in another 2 the first set was decided on a TB.
Report deadbrain59 June 2, 2013 4:19 PM BST
serena 1 and 3.quarter final.
Report deadbrain59 June 2, 2013 4:21 PM BST
SERENA 1.52 NOW.
Report deadbrain59 June 2, 2013 4:27 PM BST
ALMUGRO OUT,SEED.Mischief
Report n88uk June 2, 2013 8:37 PM BST
Serena Williams 1.07 to beat Svetlana Kuznetsova Shocked. That looks a terrible price.
Report Platini June 2, 2013 8:39 PM BST
Kuzzy will make that look silly, I'm sure.
Report n88uk June 2, 2013 8:42 PM BST
Yer that is appalling. The funny thing is she will be a bigger price vs the winner of Aga/Errani and the winner of that has less chance of winning.
Report n88uk June 2, 2013 8:59 PM BST
Now 1.06. I have put up a lay @ 1.06, that is just too short for me.
Report n88uk June 2, 2013 9:05 PM BST
Nadal and Djokovic also 1.06 tomorrow, I know who I'd rather be backing out of the 3 lol.
Report ;[p June 2, 2013 9:12 PM BST
21/2009 WTA French Open      Svetlana Kuznetsova    Serena Williams    7-6(3) 5-7 7-5         1/4
Report VonWafer June 2, 2013 11:12 PM BST
Possible Upsets for day 9:

None is the prediction!

Matteck is the best candidate but dont think she can pull it off in 3 this time, should she even get a set.

Hampton would be a good shout on hard courts but on this surface, she wont get as much gifts from Jankovic (ala Safarova and Kvitova) nor will her weapons be as effective down the stretch as it has been against all of her previous opponents.
Report deadbrain59 June 3, 2013 6:13 AM BST
P,feel free to lay serena,GrinGrin
Report bb66 June 3, 2013 10:13 AM BST
whom would you lay with confidence here outright now?
Report wooky June 3, 2013 11:15 AM BST
only american left after today will be Serena
Report mouse trap June 3, 2013 11:21 AM BST
whom would you lay with confidence here outright now?

given the odds/draw, Errani is the top candidate
Report deadbrain59 June 3, 2013 11:50 AM BST
shaza,i dont lay at those prices,my back is serena outright, 2.28,Happy
Report deadbrain59 June 4, 2013 3:15 PM BST
SERENA, 6-1 3-6, 6-3,SEMI FINAL
Report deadbrain59 June 4, 2013 7:55 PM BST
1.4 NOW
Report VonWafer June 6, 2013 10:50 AM BST
Sharapova wins today, good price on her now, but there will be way better inplay, take your pick....
Report deadbrain59 June 6, 2013 4:59 PM BST
WD VON WAFER.CoolCoolGrinGrinHappyHappy
Report deadbrain59 June 6, 2013 6:22 PM BST
SERENA 6-0 6-1,FINALIST,1.38 NOW.CoolCoolGrinGrinHappyTongue OutTongue Out
Report deadbrain59 June 7, 2013 6:51 PM BST
SERENA 1.21 NOW.GrinGrin
Report deadbrain59 June 8, 2013 3:10 PM BST
serena 1st set,6-4Grin
Report deadbrain59 June 8, 2013 4:03 PM BST
SERENA WILLIAMS,FRENCH GRAND SLAM 2013,2.28 OUTRIGHT.CoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolHappyHappyHappyHappyCoolCoolCoolCool6-4,6-3.
Report Platini June 8, 2013 4:20 PM BST
well done db. You've been on the train from the start.
Report deadbrain59 June 8, 2013 5:42 PM BST
WinkWink
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