Serena - Venus

does Aga tank a set to Ula when they play ;[p

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:09PM, ;[p wrote:

dont know,wonder myself, she supposed to have break after miami then they decided to play mmexico as she had not much play at start of the year,katowice was question mark till late,somehow wozzy also not playing ,but it looks nicely seeded tournament anyways

Woz couldn't play. Was already committed to Kuala Lumpur as her international in first half of year by time Katowice was announced. I also doubt Wozniacki wants to play her 1 international pre-Wimbledon on indoor clay.

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:13PM, aaronh wrote:

does Aga tank a set to Ula when they play ;[p

Didn't Aga once throw a match.

no

Woz couldn't play. Was already committed to Kuala Lumpur as her international in first half of year by time Katowice was announced. I also doubt Wozniacki wants to play her 1 international pre-Wimbledon on indoor clay.


she was happy playing Woz Open last year pre-slam, can't remember if that was RG

Was on indoor hard though aaron.

williams is ue machine today

serena and venus should have done a group huddle on court with richard and oracene before the match to go with the family circle cup theme.

yeah her father was involved little bit its still same tournamet ,strange she chosen kuala,but well there is petra

Also in Denmark, the tournament only existed because of her, she had to play. As soon as she lost, the tournament gets cancelled .

This is gonna be one hell of a fix.

still her tournament i think

Chose Kuala Lumpur for the $$$. Katowice chose Petra because it's close to Czech Republic, and they expect another to visit. Of course Petra is capable of bombing first match which is the risk with her.

The Woz Open is no more?

its still same tournament and wozzy family have rightsd to it ,i think, she even promoting her tennis school there,strange she is not playing really but lets concentratte on williams fix

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:16PM, ;[p wrote:

still her tournament i think

Yer I believe so, but there is less pressure to must play in Poland. In Denmark she pretty much had to play even though it was always at stupid times, in clay season or grass season. They needed Caro or event couldn't exist. Poland there is a lot of other players to choose from to sell the tournament.

can't see no other winner but williams here

From next year anyway it's almost certain Katowice's top 10 player will be Aga anyway.

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:18PM, jin_kazz wrote:

can't see no other winner but williams here

That joke was socially acceptable at the start of the thread, but not now.

yeah you right n88uk ,there is nice set of players anyways and tickets are hot for it so they did right thing

Kerber killed Woz Open
I wasn't aware it had been cancelled/moved.

and most of the Poles aren't or can't play Katowice

Aga is playing an exo i think at least

and Lukasz Kubot

yes they play doubles exo and kubot with how many times also

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:20PM, smb360 wrote:

Apr  6, 2013 --  6:18PM, jin_kazz wrote:can't see no other winner but williams hereThat joke was socially acceptable at the start of the thread, but not now.

just can't stop now

It's cancelled. Yer but there is more demand for tennis in Poland than Denmark. Copenhagen use to be a joke. Woz matches full arena, everyone else about 10 people. As soon as Wozniacki lost and started sliding the main sponsor pulled the plug, probably because Woz's stock is massively falling.

Wahey, Betfair just this second managed to put my E/W money on Rare Bob into my account

fix in danger

need Malou Esjegaard to liven up to bring back Woz Open

williams is clearly tanking

Barcelona is also cancelled, and moved to Nurnberg the week after Roland Garros on clay lol. Dallas also cancelled and hasn't yet been replaced.

Dallas was a mug tournament anyway

wasn't there illness going round everywhere there last year

no more episodes of dallas

good that houston atp strating this week, my fave american tournament by a mile

Yer but it's caused major problems, because New Haven are now trying to downgrade to international event and just pay the people they want. They need to find a new international place in America for that week.

Serena will throw games now.

No way she wins the set 6-0.

The GOAT event of the year is still going strong in Baku.

I like New Haven

New Haven is staying, but they are messing around trying to downgrade to an international. I doubt they will be allowed though, because multiple 10 players normally like to play it.

nothing to be surprised,tennis wise it was looking like 6-1 6-2 job for serena but still its clan williams match

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:23PM, aaronh wrote:

need Malou Esjegaard to liven up to bring back Woz Open

Ejdesgaard double bageled a player on the ITF Tour earlier this week, so she's getting there.

little brother dylan

wonderful

Ejdesgaard be overtaking Woz soon then.

I liked Dallas, mainly for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj7bspTUadA

fix beginning

It's just the continuation of USA events hitting the wall on both ATP and WTA. The problem is the lack of USA players to actually sell the events now, because obviously none of the Europeans wants to play them.

real wta is in peer-rezai atm

this is not wta here.

Old man Mikey will never be allowed to retire

Ejdesgaard is clever player, was sadly double bageled by Cornet at last year's Woz Open but got her back later by playing a little prank on her when she played Woz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GzcpGCEFPs

Once Serena and Venus are gone, even events like Charleston despite being premier are in big trouble. I mean who is going to want to play this. After a month long on hard courts in Indian Wells and Miami, on a surface that doesn't exist in any other tournament thus leads to nothing. The only players who will play are either Americans or those desperate for form/points in the weak field.

So it will just be New Haven the week before USO or are they still trying to have another tournament that week?

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:32PM, n88uk wrote:

Once Serena and Venus are gone, even events like Charleston despite being premier are in big trouble. I mean who is going to want to play this. After a month long on hard courts in Indian Wells and Miami, on a surface that doesn't exist in any other tournament thus leads to nothing. The only players who will play are either Americans or those desperate for form/points in the weak field.

Aga will vulture it

mug

n88uk • April 6, 2013 7:32 PM CEST
Once Serena and Venus are gone, even events like Charleston despite being premier are in big trouble. I mean who is going to want to play this.
Well, they have those comfy sofas instead of chairs, as JJ pointed out, so they at least got that going for them. And Woz might continue to play it as long as she's with Rory since the US Masters will always be in that area at that time of the year.

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:35PM, ;[p wrote:

mug

As radw - M> Kirilenko 6-1 whith 1 rebreak.

They are trying caramba, but I doubt they get one sorted for this year. They will definitely try and fill the spot though, because it creates a major headache. New Haven normally has a reasonably high cutoff, but the majority of players who want to play before grand slams are your lower ranked players, and these will have nowhere to really go.

It's a tough slot to fill because most potential buyers these days are in Europe and Asia, but obviously you can't have a tournament in Europe or Asia the week before the USO.

Oh dear this is a bit embarrassing for Venus

its not bad tournament  i like it every year,shame that serena plays,its takes out all fun

just wonder why paszek and sabine underperformed here,seems to be set  perfectly for them color wise

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:35PM, caramba wrote:

n88uk • April 6, 2013 7:32 PM CESTOnce Serena and Venus are gone, even events like Charleston despite being premier are in big trouble. I mean who is going to want to play this. Well, they have those comfy sofas instead of chairs, as JJ pointed out, so they at least got that going for them. And Woz might continue to play it as long as she's with Rory since the US Masters will always be in that area at that time of the year.

Woz won't be ranked in the top 10 the way she is going, thus will hardly be a major draw card. It's the same thing on ATP in 250s and 500s, where tournaments either need a good relationship with someone in the top 8 (preferably top 4) or some home players to survive.

Nadal in South America this year was the perfect illustration of the benefits.

Serena no UEs

ue - when wrong stand too
pssive ue

hello qqqqqw

Because Paszek and Sabine are mugs ;[p. It's not a bad tournament in the sense of being a good setting. But no top player is ever going to want to play here anymore, it has one of the worst spots on the calendar. It used to get far better fields when played at a better time, now it's just an event in clear decline being propped up by Serena and Venus' presence.

Same is true of the premiers in Paris and Moscow. Both in utter garbage spots on the calendar (who is going to want to play Australian Open-Paris lol?). It's almost like the WTA is trying to kill these events really.

FKIN JOKE MATCH

such a boring match

The only person who looks more uncomfortable than Venus here is Serena I think even she is desperate for a contest!

I think Woz will stay in the top 10, but not much higher, for a long time. As long as she doesn't fall far too behind in the rankings I think she'll also be a decent draw card, not necessarily for her tennis but because she's a name. Can't see why all these exho tournaments are paying her if she isn't a draw.

This is pretty much just shows how far Venus has fallen. There was a lot of nonsense going about on tennisforum how Venus is the only player who can stand up to Serena even now, which is obviously just a load of s**t.

Serena probably win this set 6-4. Will throw the rest of the return games.

whats ur theory on sabine and paszek and green clay caramba

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:44PM, caramba wrote:

I think Woz will stay in the top 10, but not much higher, for a long time. As long as she doesn't fall far too behind in the rankings I think she'll also be a decent draw card, not necessarily for her tennis but because she's a name. Can't see why all these exho tournaments are paying her if she isn't a draw.

Well yer because she sort of stays in the celebrity limelight because of her relationship with Rory. She isn't that great a draw card though for tournaments because you can't rely on her to make the weekend of the tournament anymore (which is what the organisers want from players they are paying to come), she'll kinda be like Ivanovic, very popular for her results and position in rankings, but not that desirable to events because you can't rely on them.

Exhibitions are still flowing now because she was number 1 14 months ago, she probs signed up to a lot of them last year. Lets see if there still flowing in 2 years time.

wozzy is 7th in the race this year

only errani and li and top4 scored more

She was 6th at this time last year. The entire season has been played on her best surface. She's average on clay and grass. She won 5 matches at her next 6 events this time last year.

;[p • April 6, 2013 6:39 PM BST
just wonder why paszek and sabine underperformed here,seems to be set  perfectly for them color wise

n88uk • April 6, 2013 6:42 PM BST
Because Paszek and Sabine are mugs ;[p.

You do amuse me n88

shes good on clay

Serena just throwing this game.

She won 5 matches on clay last year ;[p? Even in her heyday she wasn't as conistent on clay. Isn't her entire clay resume(real clay before you cite green clay) a Stuttgart F, Madrid F, French Open QF and that's about it.

Sabine should have never lost the match she did lose here.

Don't agree that Charleston has a particularly poor spot in the calender. It's not like there's anything important in Europe to rush to next week and the players are in the US anyway. While green clay is different from red clay they are transitioning between surfaces anyway, it's not like it's a green clay tournament in the middle of the hardcourt season. 

We'll see about Woz, I think she'll be in the same position, attractive to tournament organizers etc, a few years from now.

;[p, yes Lisicki excelling on green surfaces has been a theory of mine for quite some time now. Was very happy to see her deliver a double bagel in the 1st round, but was then even more disappointed when she lost in the next round. Don't know about Paszek, think it's just grass for her and not so much the color.

i extended ur great theory on paszek as it fits prefectly, i think it maybe was too dark for sabine and she couldnt distinct between grey nad green,just a theory

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:54PM, n88uk wrote:

Sabine should have never lost the match she did lose here.

seems to be set  perfectly for them color wise

;[p was just having a joke about those players being good on green surfaces

To make it clear caramba. I think Woz will be in similar position too. But that position becomes less attractive when that just appears your normal position, as opposed to maybe just a blip or slump.

On Charleston its spot is poor. The top players aka the draw cards probably just went deep in Indian Wells and Miami, they want to now take time off to prepare on clay for the clay season. They certainly don't want to be playing on a surface that doesn't exist anywhere else.

Paszek will fall off the face of the rankings after Eastbourne and Wimbledon, no way she defends those points.

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:58PM, smb360 wrote:

Apr  6, 2013 --  6:54PM, n88uk wrote:Sabine should have never lost the match she did lose here.seems to be set  perfectly for them color wise;[p was just having a joke about those players being good on green surfaces

I know, I just more making a statement.

Could Serena at least make it look like she's trying to win return games.

sabine has played well in charleston before, so I don't think it's that. it could have been fear after the injury she suffered here last year (dangerous courts ffs), or it could be that her confidence is so low these days that even green surfaces don't help anymore. I certainly hope that's not the case.

Wtf. Serbia are playing Bozoljac and Zimonjic in the doubles vs the Bryans?

Least this will expel them myth that Venus can still trouble Serena.

richard has lost his touch. very boring script this time.

Could the first question be any more condescending lol.

told ya

williams won it!

script was not to double bagel it seems

Are we starting a new thread for Jankovic.

Yes!

Apr 6, 2013 -- 6:27PM, ;[p wrote:

nothing to be surprised,tennis wise it was looking like 6-1 6-2 job for serena but still its clan williams match

looks like no script at all

I don't know the score yet, I went overs and a venus win coz yesterday the serena mind readers were saying she was gonna gift the match to venus for various reasons...so how did it go?