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All in on Murray I'd say. Had a feeling he was destined to win this week. Murray in two.
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looks like that failed morrillo may have decided this match.
anyone that was questioning Murray's fitness during this match really needs to think about things a bit longer
usually this things are like a microcosm of the whole game.
bogomolov jr would have retired if he was in ferrer's shoes.
i believe the way fate is set up, had murray had that match point, ferrer would have hit it lon
well, that was a waste of time 
i went from having decent fair profit on both to a quid on murray. oh well. chips for dinner then
i went from having decent fair profit on both to a quid on murray. oh well. chips for dinner then
Mar 31, 2013 -- 7:23PM, caramba wrote:
has ferrer ever struggled like this physically?
don't recall it.. This style of victory is just what Murray wanted, to show Ferrer who is boss. Now he has zero chance of beating Murray in the big tournaments this year
Mar 31, 2013 -- 7:14PM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
Fail ratface, fail!
YES, YOU DID. AGAIN.
When will this muggery stop?
but when does he ever get to final , that'[s one match more than he could handle
as badly as he played I'm impressed Murray came through that from the situation at 5-6 match point down.
Mar 31, 2013 -- 7:13PM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
come on Spaniard!
This should have been the signal fro everyone to pile in on Murray.
mini-me is now talking.. hope he holds his little finger up to his lips with a cheque for 1 billion dollars
A most amazing display of mental fragility from both players.
I'm only seething that I had to watch this complete tosh
one of the worst matches ever, complete mugfest
one of the worst matches ever, complete mugfest
well deserved no 2, he's won 3 of the last 4 against Roger. won the olympics, reached the 3 last gs finals and won one of them.
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GAME OVER SCOTTISH T O SS ER
MUG MUG MUG
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GAME OVER SCOTTISH T O SS ER
MUG MUG MUG
Mar 31, 2013 -- 7:27PM, n88uk wrote:
Worst match ever.
+1
I love Ferrer. It was a hard decision today. I hope he flukes a slam one day.
what a horrific match to back murray at in the 1st game at 1.23 in pleased i just let it ride but the opportunites I missed WOW!
Mary Jo - "They say tennis is about a game of inches".. Andy - "Yeah, would 8 do you Mary Jo?"
from muggrays own mouth 'that could of gone either way'
Mar 31, 2013 -- 7:29PM, SuperTed wrote:
Ferrer is the Jimmy White of Tennis
Not as talented. Jimmy was just as good as the rest, yet his brain held him back. Ferrer just isnt as good.
ferrer is kind of the peoples chamo though, so in that sense he's the Jimmy White.
Just found out I took 4.3 in the outright after R3!! Nice, had forgot that
That challenge was a cop out by Ferrer. i think he knew it was in but his defeatist instinct got the better of him. Maybe.
this was played WTA style in so many ways, with the choke serving for the match after 15-0 being the most classic WTA occurence
this match should be another wakeup call that the courts are too slow
He showed more emotion winning there than he did in the US open
Mar 31, 2013 -- 7:37PM, aaronh wrote:
this match should be another wakeup call that the courts are too slow
But will they do anything about it. I doubt it. It's been said for years they are too slow, yet Indian Wells and Miami this year I think have got even slower than last year.
It's ridiculous that really the clay courts are genuinely quicker than Indian Wells and Miami now.
Yes the grass at Wimbledon has slowed down hugely. I believe in 2011 was it when Roland Garros used those very fast balls, they actually showed that Wimbledon was slower than Roland Garros. Wimbledon uses pretty much the slowest balls in existence is part of the reason for it being so slow.
like he destoryed journeyman barry cowen in 5 sets at wimbledon
i had to laugh at some of the comments on here when murray was down, so pathetic u hate him so much, glad he won
I don't hate him at all
I'm just very disappointed with how he had developed, how mentally fragile he is, how he plays compared to the cavalier, imaginative stuff he played in his early days
I want him to 'click' mentally, to come on court bristling with intent and to have his opponents defeated before a ball is hit, like Federer did at his peak, to serve very well all the time, to step in and take the ball early, approach the net for put away vollies far more often when his opponent does a defensive retrieval shot and to raise his game above the mundane ball bashing and scrambling
I want him to take his chances, to not get broken back after breaking, to put matches away easily when leading by heer mental will and domination. How many times has he lost when he had match point, do you know? 18 times in his pro career. That is bollox
But I'm frustrated because he won't do any of that
I'm just very disappointed with how he had developed, how mentally fragile he is, how he plays compared to the cavalier, imaginative stuff he played in his early days
I want him to 'click' mentally, to come on court bristling with intent and to have his opponents defeated before a ball is hit, like Federer did at his peak, to serve very well all the time, to step in and take the ball early, approach the net for put away vollies far more often when his opponent does a defensive retrieval shot and to raise his game above the mundane ball bashing and scrambling
I want him to take his chances, to not get broken back after breaking, to put matches away easily when leading by heer mental will and domination. How many times has he lost when he had match point, do you know? 18 times in his pro career. That is bollox
But I'm frustrated because he won't do any of that
you're frustrated because you're a f-ckin arrs-hole. cheers.
It's true he is a slow starter and he has to work on that, but for the 18 match points he has had, can you list every match, I bet most were in his early career, and what are the stats for the other top 3 throughout their careers, lets see how they match up.
Although the %'s on his service game needs improving his return stats are v good
in 2013
murray is 3rd on the 'break points converted' list ahead of the other big 3
murray is joing 4th with nadal on return games won
murray is joint 3rd on 'Points won returning first serve'
Today's match had many breaks because Ferrer is the best returner in the game, murray probably actually returns more balls over the net, but ferrer is more clinical, it was not a great shock.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to mental fragility, that's an over exaggeration he's got a lot of bottle, like at last years aussie open final.
I think lendal has had a good effect on him, he no longer loses his rage on court half as much as he used to exuding negative energy plus he doesn't look up to he team as much for help, he can be better but this was a masters against ferrer, all he cares about are slams against the big three and if you look at his recent slam record - finalist, winner, finalist, quarters, finalist, semi, semi, semi, fianlist, it's not to shabby by anyone's standard.
most English people hate him because they think he is anti English and miserable dour scot, but anyone that follows tennis knows he is not like that and probably only tune in to tennis two weeks a a year when its fashionable, that whole Paraguayan shirt thing was an obvious joke.
By the way that cavalier attitude didn't win him slams in his early career
Although the %'s on his service game needs improving his return stats are v good
in 2013
murray is 3rd on the 'break points converted' list ahead of the other big 3
murray is joing 4th with nadal on return games won
murray is joint 3rd on 'Points won returning first serve'
Today's match had many breaks because Ferrer is the best returner in the game, murray probably actually returns more balls over the net, but ferrer is more clinical, it was not a great shock.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to mental fragility, that's an over exaggeration he's got a lot of bottle, like at last years aussie open final.
I think lendal has had a good effect on him, he no longer loses his rage on court half as much as he used to exuding negative energy plus he doesn't look up to he team as much for help, he can be better but this was a masters against ferrer, all he cares about are slams against the big three and if you look at his recent slam record - finalist, winner, finalist, quarters, finalist, semi, semi, semi, fianlist, it's not to shabby by anyone's standard.
most English people hate him because they think he is anti English and miserable dour scot, but anyone that follows tennis knows he is not like that and probably only tune in to tennis two weeks a a year when its fashionable, that whole Paraguayan shirt thing was an obvious joke.
By the way that cavalier attitude didn't win him slams in his early career
he lost 3 matches he had match point in after winning the USO in 2012
I take it that was to Janowicz in Paris where he tanked like all the other top players did in prep for London.
To Raonic in Tokyo - the very best server in the game
And to Djokovic
All on their serve no doubt.
You have a point though he needs to start matches better, that's his weakness.
To Raonic in Tokyo - the very best server in the game
And to Djokovic
All on their serve no doubt.
You have a point though he needs to start matches better, that's his weakness.
if you look at those slam finals in detail he chucked at least one away and was very lucky to win in USO
Wimbledon he was a set up and had two break (set) points at the end of the second to go 2-0. Not only did he not take the set, he then managed to get broken from 30-0 to lose the set 7-5. And that was the match gone
Aus Open just gone was very similar
and even in the USO final he was very lucky not to lose the second set from 4-0 up and go lucky to break at 6-5. Had he lost that set he would have lost that match too
He lost to Jankowicz, Niskikori and Raonic from match point up iirc. As I say mentally fragile. Compare with Nadal for example - hard as nails mentally
Wimbledon he was a set up and had two break (set) points at the end of the second to go 2-0. Not only did he not take the set, he then managed to get broken from 30-0 to lose the set 7-5. And that was the match gone
Aus Open just gone was very similar
and even in the USO final he was very lucky not to lose the second set from 4-0 up and go lucky to break at 6-5. Had he lost that set he would have lost that match too
He lost to Jankowicz, Niskikori and Raonic from match point up iirc. As I say mentally fragile. Compare with Nadal for example - hard as nails mentally
Yes he was very lucky to take 3 sets of the world number 1, and beat federer in 3 straight sets at the olympics, come on now.
Compare with Nadal for example - hard as nails mentally
yes the same nadal that lost 7 finals in a row to djokovic where he took the first set 3 times and lost the next two, it happens.
Compare with Nadal for example - hard as nails mentally
yes the same nadal that lost 7 finals in a row to djokovic where he took the first set 3 times and lost the next two, it happens.
By: AyersRock Date Joined: 27 Oct 11
Yes he was very lucky to take 3 sets of the world number 1, and beat federer in 3 straight sets at the olympics, come on now.
There are still some chinks for sure with Murrays mental side & I wish just occasionally he would throw in a gutsy 2nd serve with speed just for a change (reminds me of Henmans 2nd serves), but overall I think Murray has improved hugely mentally. I never used to back him, now I do.
Yes he was very lucky to take 3 sets of the world number 1, and beat federer in 3 straight sets at the olympics, come on now.
There are still some chinks for sure with Murrays mental side & I wish just occasionally he would throw in a gutsy 2nd serve with speed just for a change (reminds me of Henmans 2nd serves), but overall I think Murray has improved hugely mentally. I never used to back him, now I do.
what a weird final
murray can only play 3 sets of tennis these days? he was acting like he can die any moment
what was that ffs?
murray can only play 3 sets of tennis these days? he was acting like he can die any moment
what was that ffs?
the temp was incredible if Ferrer was struggling you know its hot.
i thought that it was something like +25c
what was the temp?
what was the temp?
Someone on twitter who has been there all week said it wasn't THAT bad, and there have been far hotter days
think it could be a case of not getting enough rest between points, now that the 25 second tennis is being enforced. I can't find any other explanation for how a guy a like Ferrer, who are perhaps the fittest guy on tour, could barely stand up in the end.
As has been pointed out 2 hrs 45 min doesn't sound that long, especially when we consider the 5-6 hr battles in GS finals we've seen the past years, but getting the opportunity to rest between helps the body to recover and if players don't get that rest, we end up with situations like the one yesterday for longer matches with lots of long rallies.
As has been pointed out 2 hrs 45 min doesn't sound that long, especially when we consider the 5-6 hr battles in GS finals we've seen the past years, but getting the opportunity to rest between helps the body to recover and if players don't get that rest, we end up with situations like the one yesterday for longer matches with lots of long rallies.
is this 1st 3-set match after they begin to use this rule?
No, but one of the more physical ones. In a match with shorter rallies, the rule probably doesn't make much difference, but in a match like yesterday I'd think it's more important for players to have more time to recover between points.
I'm not saying this is the case for sure since I don't really know, but I'm trying to find an explanation for what we saw yesterday. And it was both players who were completely exhausted. I've never seen Ferrer like this and Murray has played 4-5 hr long matches without being this tired.
I'm not saying this is the case for sure since I don't really know, but I'm trying to find an explanation for what we saw yesterday. And it was both players who were completely exhausted. I've never seen Ferrer like this and Murray has played 4-5 hr long matches without being this tired.
Britain rules the waves...
Well done Andy Murray..
British bulldog...
Well done Andy Murray..
British bulldog...
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