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Marin1977
09 Feb 13 02:33
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Word of early warning: Chardy >>>>>> DGT

The price is ridiculously short, if Chardy doesn't lose his nerve (and I think he probably won't) he can take Nadal in current form and it wouldn't surprise anybody.
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Report ;[p February 10, 2013 1:58 AM GMT
yes holly i wanted to include soda there coz i knew someone will point ti out but decided against, soda decent player on clay and top5 player in the world,also nadal was injured
Report luckystar670 February 10, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
What's this? Chardy can play a lot better. He seems mentally shocked by Nadal's mere appearance...
Report Footiefan111 February 10, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
zeballos will give him a decent match
Report hollywood85 February 10, 2013 2:01 AM GMT
"hes to good on clay. only thing stops him for french again is injury..." or soderling LaughWink
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
Footiefan111
10 Feb 13 02:01
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zeballos will give him a decent match




ExcitedExcitedLaugh

nice one
Report chelseapremierleaguechamps2010 February 10, 2013 2:06 AM GMT
chardy played like this against murray
Report hollywood85 February 10, 2013 2:07 AM GMT
Nadal *0-40 Shocked
Report jin_kazz February 10, 2013 2:08 AM GMT
chardy woke up
Report hollywood85 February 10, 2013 2:09 AM GMT
Saves all 3 Grin
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:16 AM GMT
double break 5-2 even rafa cant fck it upGrin
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:17 AM GMT
someone has to spill ink on the court
Report jin_kazz February 10, 2013 2:19 AM GMT
should be easy prey for zeballos
Report hollywood85 February 10, 2013 2:20 AM GMT
Nadal and Zeballos have played against each other before funny enough...
Report hollywood85 February 10, 2013 2:20 AM GMT
21/2010 ATP French Open (FRA)    Clay    Rafael Nadal    Horacio Zeballos    6-2 6-2 6-3
Report hollywood85 February 10, 2013 2:20 AM GMT
Nadal was 1.01 SP back then
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:23 AM GMT
Decent win and tomorrow he win the tourney but I still have doubts about Nadal.
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:24 AM GMT
yeah zzeballos should roll rafa over this time i expect rafa to be 1.79- 1.84 pre match ,1.03 now will drift no worries
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
marin he is only back playing few tournaments like this and he will be back in form banging before french open,but only if the knee is not hurting anymore and he said it is before tourney
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
I vaguely remember that you had a working brain 2 years ago or so... what happened? Losses wrecked you?
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
I am referring to attempts to mock me and troll me.
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:29 AM GMT
im mocking you and trolling you? lol you just shot urself in the feet.

do you remember what did you do in pigdog thread

fookin hypocrite

lol
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:35 AM GMT
Hypocrite? Explain LOGICALLY how you came to that.

What did I do? I pointed out that he is spouting incredible garbage (in at least 2 spots as far as I can immediately recall).
If you can't spot it yourself then it is your problem and not mine. Re-read his posts and come back to me.

Also there is a purpose behind that thread and it is obvious from the 1st post BTW.

Unargumented picks mean nothing, anybody can be on a short term heater. If you need someone to worship because Ito won a match, go ahead.

I have seen many people come and go with such tipping threads and exactly zero who showed any staying power.

Lets see in a few months where that thread is and what is the P/L (although frankly anything less than 1 year is statistically insignificant).

Last year I had 23 correct picks in a row BTW and I didn't proclaim myself to be the best ever etc.
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:37 AM GMT
heh i only have a lough at ur comment and you getting personal about me. not very nice of urself tbh very grim persona
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:38 AM GMT
well you were laughing at the guy as far as i remember but oh no you cant be laughed at, it is called hypocrisy you know


godd night
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:39 AM GMT
Well I laughed at your stupidity too.
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:40 AM GMT
I was laughing at his garbage.

You were laughing because I have estimated the odds AT YOUR REQUEST. What the **** is wrong with you, seriusly.
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 2:41 AM GMT
I suppose asking a question and then laughing at someone who answers you is good manners? Nice.
Report aaronh February 10, 2013 5:17 AM GMT

Feb 9, 2013 -- 12:12PM, Marin1977 wrote:


1.32 to 1.5 (this means Chardy wins between 1 of 3 and 1 of 4). From what I have seen Nadal doesn't really move that well so if Chardy can move him around he can take this. 2nd set yesterday was an example of how it works.


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Report aaronh February 10, 2013 5:17 AM GMT
people still laying Nadull against mugs huh

must like giving money anyway
Report swebih February 10, 2013 9:45 AM GMT
Last time I asked Marin what according to him was correct price he blocked me.Laugh
Report HARRY22 February 10, 2013 10:12 AM GMT
Backing chardy v nadal on clay Laugh
Report booyakasha February 10, 2013 1:33 PM GMT
hahaha is this a joke? Marin is ****g clueless. What a mug
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 2:25 PM GMT

Feb 10, 2013 -- 3:45AM, swebih wrote:


Last time I asked Marin what according to him was correct price he blocked me.


Laugh

Report aaronh February 10, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
Laugh
Report aaronh February 10, 2013 7:49 PM GMT
1.5 loooooooooooool
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
Thx for quoting him. I blocked him for profanity actually.

And now lets expand the glory list.
Report swebih February 10, 2013 8:07 PM GMT
"Last year I had 23 correct picks in a row BTW and I didn't proclaim myself to be the best ever etc. "

My kuk is bigger than yours Laugh
Report AyersRock February 10, 2013 8:13 PM GMT
marin you have to admit saying 1.3 to 1.5 was probably a mistake, you don't have to be a tennis expert even to realise that's not right, you may have had a case if it were a first round match after his 8 month lay off and if people were overly sceptical, but he was clearly moving quite well beforehand

the only time on clay court that nadals odds have risen a
Report AyersRock February 10, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
Confusedcut off my comment

have risen above 1.5 is against djokovic and federer even the last time v murray at the fench it was sub 1.3
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 8:59 PM GMT
Yeah my 1st reply to you also got deleted by accident since I am doing other stuff in parallel and I misclicked Plain

Here is the gist of it:

- I clearly said in the opening post "if Chardy doesn't lose his nerve (and I think he probably won't)" and that part was obviously wrong. Nobody can play vs. a top player scared, it just doesn't work. Chardy looked like he is about to **** himself from the get go so yes that part was wrong. I still didn't see anything close to the top form Nadal yesterday and there are quite a few good clay court players who would deserve 1.5 against him in that shape.

- The point in this thread was never to discuss anything - I am the only one who used actual argumentation for my opinions, since that is usually the point of forums in general and I am in the habit of approaching things this way. I really see little point in wasting my time posting here if I can't get anything from it.

- Culture of this forum was never conductive to argumented discussions, it did improve a bit from 90% ramping few years back to something a bit calmer but prevalent is still trolling, spamming, scamming and rude language. I am not willing to communicate in this manner and the only way I can isolate myself from these things is to simply block people who are unable to communicate in the way I find preferable.

Now, it is true that I also kind of joined the culture here in the last year (since it was made clear to me that BF does not want a clean forum) but still there are criteria I observe and both new inductees of my BL knew what they were. I tolerated them both for quite some time because sometimes (rarely) they do post something worthwhile but now I have decided that that is not justification to tolerate them anymore.
Report aaronh February 10, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
^^ list of players that would deserve Nadal being 1.5

Djokovic
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
nowadays people are so sensitive and touchy. if someone doesn't agree with your opinion why get touchy about it? Just get on with anyone. I'm not picking you out Marin, this goes to everyone
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
Just get on with it*
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:04 PM GMT
Anything other than straight destruction here is a very brave shout. I think he'll finish him in 2.
Report Darlo Bantam February 10, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
Once again a market goes in-play early.
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
There isn't an "official" Nadal vs Zeballos thread...will discussion proceed here?
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
I very much doubt it will rise above 1.03. Nadal tends to take finals extremely seriously and will be on fire from the off
Report aaronh February 10, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
should be 1.01
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
The match is over Wink I suppose Zeballos isgonna get his own thread.

AZ91 - I don't mind disagreement at all. I do mind trolling, unprovoked aggression etc. This is not a children's playground and I didn't tolerate bullies as a child neither.
Report Footiefan111 February 10, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
no one can be bothered Laugh
Report Footiefan111 February 10, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
anyone want to start a new thread
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
no. that's a waste of time i think we're settled here lol. 1.03 is a bank job for me
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
I have never ever ever done a bank job pre match. let alone in a FINAL
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
...but then again...this is NADAL on CLAY...vs..ZEBALLOS LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report aaronh February 10, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
could bring chardy back on to the court and 1.03 is still value
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
Laugh
Report ;[p February 10, 2013 9:19 PM GMT
Marin1977

I do mind trolling, unprovoked aggression etc. This is not a children's playground and I didn't tolerate bullies as a child neither.


Marin1977
10 Feb 13 02:27
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I vaguely remember that you had a working brain 2 years ago or so... what happened? Losses wrecked you?





it was "non aggressive" reply on my  very aggressive"Laugh" emot
Report aaronh February 10, 2013 9:20 PM GMT
Laugh
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:23 PM GMT
Laugh come on guys, stop it now...let's just focus on the tennis
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:24 PM GMT
its clear what zebbs is doing here...makign nadal run in the hope he gets injured...stupid fool. nadal will destroy him
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:25 PM GMT
nadal hardly trying. i was wrong. very wrong
Report AZ91 February 10, 2013 9:26 PM GMT
or maybe he's just putting minimal effort while zebs has his time in the limelight knowing its only a matter of time berfore his flame burns out
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 9:43 PM GMT
I suppose I have to restart Betfair before the BL takes effect, so I will answer this last falsehood from ;[p

If your only reply to someone's post is emoticons, that is mocking and is a kind of aggression.
If you then ask a question for the sole purpose to mock the answer without any argumentation, that is also a form of aggression.

I do not have to tolerate that and I choose not to.
Report Marin1977 February 10, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
Zeballos is doing what Chardy should have done.
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:03 AM GMT

Feb 10, 2013 -- 2:59PM, Marin1977 wrote:


Yeah my 1st reply to you also got deleted by accident since I am doing other stuff in parallel and I misclicked  Here is the gist of it:- I clearly said in the opening post "if Chardy doesn't lose his nerve (and I think he probably won't)" and that part was obviously wrong. Nobody can play vs. a top player scared, it just doesn't work. Chardy looked like he is about to **** himself from the get go so yes that part was wrong. I still didn't see anything close to the top form Nadal yesterday and there are quite a few good clay court players who would deserve 1.5 against him in that shape.- The point in this thread was never to discuss anything - I am the only one who used actual argumentation for my opinions, since that is usually the point of forums in general and I am in the habit of approaching things this way. I really see little point in wasting my time posting here if I can't get anything from it.- Culture of this forum was never conductive to argumented discussions, it did improve a bit from 90% ramping few years back to something a bit calmer but prevalent is still trolling, spamming, scamming and rude language. I am not willing to communicate in this manner and the only way I can isolate myself from these things is to simply block people who are unable to communicate in the way I find preferable.Now, it is true that I also kind of joined the culture here in the last year (since it was made clear to me that BF does not want a clean forum) but still there are criteria I observe and both new inductees of my BL knew what they were. I tolerated them both for quite some time because sometimes (rarely) they do post something worthwhile but now I have decided that that is not justification to tolerate them anymore.


CoolCoolCool

Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:04 AM GMT
"I still didn't see anything close to the top form Nadal yesterday and there are quite a few good clay court players who would deserve 1.5 against him in that shape."

Highlighted for the slow ones, you know who you are.
Report swebih February 11, 2013 12:09 AM GMT
marin,how pathetic are you from 1-10?Cry
Report booyakasha February 11, 2013 12:09 AM GMT
10
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:10 AM GMT
You are both surely aware I can't see your posts right? Crazy But thx for reporting so the others can see.
Report jin_kazz February 11, 2013 12:15 AM GMT

Feb 9, 2013 -- 11:17PM, aaronh wrote:


people still laying Nadull against mugs huhmust like giving money anyway


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Report jin_kazz February 11, 2013 12:16 AM GMT

Feb 9, 2013 -- 7:16PM, jin_kazz wrote:


i feel zeballos gonna reap him apart and won't even ask his name! :))


mugz Excited

Report jin_kazz February 11, 2013 12:16 AM GMT

Feb 9, 2013 -- 8:19PM, jin_kazz wrote:


should be easy prey for zeballos


mugz Excited

Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:17 AM GMT
Good call jin_kazz Wink
Report DStyle February 11, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
crowing is most ungracious.

as an aside, i'm a litte surprised by your seeking approval on here, given that it's quite clear that no-one could exceed your own estimation of yourself.
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
I am just doing this to piss certain people off.

I had the balls to post an honest analysis that went against "common sense" and got ridiculed (without argumentation BTW), so now that I have their money I am rubbing it in a bit.

Feel free to block me if you find me annoying.

I don't care about approval BTW, money is why I am on BF and exchange argumented opinions (= getting useful feedback) is why I am on the forum, in theory at least.
Report AyersRock February 11, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
marin's having a breakdown today
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:38 AM GMT
Erm, getting a shitload of money and being proven right in the process is not breakdown inducing methinks.

Too bad I am having a below average day on the poker tables Plain can't have it all I suppose.
Report DStyle February 11, 2013 12:43 AM GMT
you might do well to watch some of the late christopher hitchens videos on youtube.

he frequently finds himself having to put forward his strongly held beliefs in the face of stubborn resistance and stupidity, but always did so with eloquence, elegance, and most importantly humour, occasional humility and charm.

something his partner in crime, Richard Dawkins, failed and continues to fail miserably at.

as troy parker and matt stone observed so well

"Dawkins knew that logic and reason were the way of the future. But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you."
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:45 AM GMT
I am never personally aggressive to people first. That does not mean I have to sit quietly and take abuse. There is a difference.
Report AyersRock February 11, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
I garuntee u, that if people here all met up in person, we wouldn;t say 0.1% of what is said so no need to take anything personally, have u ever had anyone in ur life come up too u randomly and call u a mug for making a mistake  - no i doubt u haveLaugh

good night
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 12:52 AM GMT
I don't associate myself with rude people at all, and only meet them... well, basically, here. Other forums I frequent are all moderated, including poker ones.
Report nixie February 11, 2013 12:57 AM GMT
dstyle; christopher hitchens is good but if u really wanna go against the crowd u cant beat david icke.
Report DStyle February 11, 2013 1:00 AM GMT
Laugh
Report nixie February 11, 2013 1:03 AM GMT
i c what u r saying marin but i was a regular at one of those regulated forums for a year or two. the moderators were like gestapo. i got out in the end. if u said something that went against the ideas of the moderators (im not talking about being rude) they came on u like a ton of bricks.(sounded like a scene from a porn film) pricks.
Report DStyle February 11, 2013 1:09 AM GMT
i think you mean "came down on you like a ton of bricks"

your version does indeed sound like some sort of cyber bukkake.
Report nixie February 11, 2013 1:11 AM GMT
thats how we speak in cornwall...
Report nixie February 11, 2013 1:12 AM GMT
Laugh
Report nixie February 11, 2013 1:19 AM GMT
im usually as silent as a mouse pissing on cotton when i lose money but i feel liberated by this loss. ty nadal.
Report nixie February 11, 2013 1:21 AM GMT
must stop drinking...
Report Marin1977 February 11, 2013 1:30 AM GMT
Yeah a bit strange grammatical construction there Silly

Don't know, I have seen a forum where all moderators were complete "grammar Nazis" and I found it annoying but I also dislike illiterate posters spamming all over the place.

But usually it is possible to get to a good balance.
Report ;[p February 11, 2013 11:01 AM GMT
martin if the emoticons are agressive to you so lets be it. you are selcentered c0ck no wonfer you were mocked in the playground as you said. coock abd hypocrite. you of course are allowed to call people nobs laugh at them like last mug, but nobody criticise ur ridiculous pricing on betting forum,thats agression. you were always bit of a mug but i tolerated you usually where youyou randomly attacked people but still i always feel bit pathetic about ur persona. u always acting like u know everything but in fact your predictions are bit of a crap ,many people will tell you that when they see your thread they will often tend to lay it,as myself as well. ur unproven claims about how much money u make and how great streaks you have are only a booger cherry on cake made of excrements.im sure you going to unblock me only to read it as you are sad idiot with no balls.little whinig girl. but dont bother to answer  because i dont give a fck
Report ;[p February 11, 2013 11:01 AM GMT
regards ;[p
Report AyersRock February 11, 2013 11:19 AM GMT
what a rantLaugh
Report AZ91 February 11, 2013 12:02 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh wow ! ;[p is taking no prisoners today
Report AZ91 February 11, 2013 12:05 PM GMT
ive lost a huge ammount of respect for nadal...losing after being a set up to a complete and utter mug who choked twice while serving it out agains the screaming pig....injured or NO injured....to pass someone like chardy with ease means you are in good form...besdides...the same scoreline against chardy if he wasnt injured is very very realistic....I'm disgusted at the way he handled it, unprofessional and unnaddal. i for one have lost respect for him and dont deem him a real competitor anymore this season. I took a red, quite a big one too, but i admit my mistakes and my losses, im back here to correct them! and I hope everyone can pick themselves up again from that horrid unjustified result and move on as I have...
Report AZ91 February 11, 2013 12:07 PM GMT
I admit my mistakes in that i backed him on the basis of his status and not far less on his condition...but then again I don't c are who you are, unless you have acrystal ball, NOBODY could tell zeballos would come from a set down and win. that's utter rubbish, i would give someone like federer a 1/6 chance to come back from a set down on clay....let alone someone like zeballos...i'd give a 1/250 chance
Report ;[p February 11, 2013 12:19 PM GMT
you are right its just one of those matches,  didnt watch after nadal broken in 3rd but as far seballos was making very good shots and difficult ones not makink many errors and nadal was opposite hes shot making was below par and he  was making all the errors, quite unusual but after such long break could be explained. nadal list his 10 match in 8 years on clay so the market was justified, i made few trades but went green so didnt lost any money, but overall can see people busted a bit here
Report nofx February 11, 2013 1:15 PM GMT
ffs
black day, worst forum ever
personally think half this thread and the other one acted like like a bunch of conniving schoolgirls and i don't like teaming up no matter who's subject so just going to leave it. after all, not that he was the only one, Marin saw it coming so kudos but then again is just as full of shyte as the next guy

Report • Quote • Block User Marin1977 • February 8, 2013 8:53 PM GMT
Reputation? Confused I am puzzled why would anyone care about reputation here.
Report ;[p February 11, 2013 1:50 PM GMT
i dont agree he saw that comming, in fact he posted nothing before match. then setting nadals prematch price at 1.4 is still ridiculous and will not happen next time,  regardles of nadals performance this kind of pricing is just wishfull thinking he could say   as well that nadal should be @5 and we could deduct one match after slaughtering chardy that martin was right. lol this is not how it works. btw recent pigdog success only shows how big c0ck thi guy martin is
Report nofx February 11, 2013 2:13 PM GMT
many c0cks around. will just say my own thoughts from the start where seeing him holding back, if it was to not stress his knee or being in pain will remain to be seen but his unwillingness to run for a drop shot in the 1st match with delboners made my heart sink. I'm not overly optimistic at this point. saying that I find it hard to judge what it takes to come back to complete top level match fitness and hope to be proven a pessimist by the time RG has a winner
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