Raonic vs Federer

Fed was near perfect against Tomic.  Anything less and Raonic will take a set, minimum.   Bet is lay Fed in 3.

Fed is on fire and playing awesome but Raonic seems to pushed him in their prev 3 meetings which happened all in 2012

Raonic took a set of fed in each of those but they were not in Grand Slams.

So i expect Fed to come out hard, trying to get on top early and win in 3 or 4 sets

I heard earlier that the last 3 times these 2 have played, Raonic won the 1st
set on each occasion. He is paying 4.50 to win the 1st set here!!! Crazy odds....
Good value. I'm on it.

Raonic +5.5 for me..7-6,6-4,7-6 for rodg.GL all!

bet is lay fed ,raonic to win

lay 1.14

kid starts with a 2nd serve ace

Rog has been playing well but he's been really struggling to put people away.  Raonic brings more to the table than Davy or Tomic and could easily bag a set or two.

I like the kid. 2nd serve ace and a + volley in his 1st serve game.
Definitely more adventurous than the average player these days.

Is there no stream for this game on BF?

There is but it's not started yet!    3-6-5 has it.

fed has won 11/12 service points

syzlak is such a massive dog once the balls in play, just can't see how the market can keep getting so excited by his bullets.

Do you think a lay-to-back strategy for Fed today?

bf stream??

Hawkeye loves Fed

amusing lack of confidence by the market for fed.....

rock solid.

got to love how far behind the baseline he's prepared to go and still not give an inch.

and boooooooooom!

fed

remember how we talked about commentators and odds during kvitova/robson. before this match, what I believe is the same commentator said raonic would be 50/1 if he went down a set here. what a shame he is too busy calling the matches and not offering odds on here.

Raonic got nothing but the serve against him. Can't see him breaking, a TB only way he wins a set. As soon as it gets to a rally it's basically 90/10 Fed's way.

so true rhino, i doubt raonitch will get a single break point all match. this court is slower than the ones they've played on previously. he won't serve as many aces.

he might nick a tb but that's it 3-0 or 3-1. 80% 3-0.

only idiots back,low.

There aren't many poorer returners in the men's game.

@deadbrain59 if only idiots back low why do you have your profile picture set as Frankel. In some of his races, the price was less than what Roger's is now?

it can be low and still be value or it can be low and not be value, depends what it is and what odds you get. like sharapova straight sets 1.23 v flipkens that was low and that was value.

I like Federer's pink shoes!

Roger to win 2nd set at 1.26 value?

4/44 return points won

TB written all over this set

that's a brave call

really? Fed has been very good on serve and Raonic more reliable this set than 1st on serve

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:56AM, hvvn wrote:

Roger to win 2nd set at 1.26 value?

Not with a TB looming, pass.

i pay out peanuts,but if the low goes high i trade,then cant lose either way.backing 1/5 or less,u need to win 5 mathes just to clear your liabilities very dangerous. not for me,gl.  delpotro backers stung,they dont all win.bb66 knows that.

IF the tiebreak plays out the way the set has, it is value

(1.16 would be the correct price)

Jan 21, 2013 -- 11:02AM, DStyle wrote:

IF the tiebreak plays out the way the set has, it is value(1.16 would be the correct price)

Raonic will have to do an "Isner special" to win the TB - get lucky on one of Roger's serves and hit missiles on his own serves.

Explain the maths Dstyle please

d

bomber could nick this set.early days.

1.26 value, 1.46 free money

Raonic won 2 points against the serve in set 1
Raonic won 2 points against the serve in set 2

Karlovic would do better than this limited oaf.

Raonic is terrible. If he is the "next big thing" mens tennis will be s**t in a couple of years. Big serve with nothing else. No return, no net skills, awful tactics (happy to play passive 5-10 feet behind the baseline), and prone to error.

DStyle, 1.16 may have been correct price at start of 2nd set, but not at 6-6.  I hav'nt got figures for what it should be but it has to be higher than 1.16.

Shocking the market went against fed just before the start. Anyone taking him on in a slam against someone outside the top 4 is a brave man.

Well based on Raonic only winning 4 points in the entire game against the Federer serve, half of which were unforced errors, the price would be approx 1.16

n88uk 21 Jan 13 11:13 
Raonic is terrible. If he is the "next big thing" mens tennis will be s**t in a couple of years. Big serve with nothing else. No return, no net skills, awful tactics (happy to play passive 5-10 feet behind the baseline), and prone to error.





hard to disagree with any of that. Now broken to love at the start of the 3rd, so this will be over very quickly.

Practice match for Fed.

He's absolutely useless. Big serve and if that goes then he is toast.  A pathetic player.

he's good on fast courts because he's practically unbreakable.

i'm going bed, been up all night and now it's daylight.

shiraz: the 1.16 was based on how the set was being played at the time.

so if Fed continued to win 92% of his points on serve and raonic won 74% on his, fed would be 1.16 to win a breaker.

given that fed has an added advantage on the important points, you could add on a factor for it being shorter.

i'm not saying it's "correct", it's one price obtained one way; you can get a handful of different prices, which may not be necessarily be more "correct" than the others.

looks like im shelling out 1 hours pay.

Fed just has to keep the rallies going knowing that eventually Raonic will make an UE

lol @ all the raonic is useless comments.

fed has been playing frighteningly well, how do you beat a guy who has won 53/59 service points?

it's easy to win points against big mug

and in the last set he's not even fighting. like tomic yesterday

nothing wrong with raonic really.

fed is just very good.

90% to 95% of raonic's opponents will not be as dominant on serve, and the pressure his serve brings, makes them get a bit chokey.

truth is, when he's up against someone who can serve better than him, with respect to his ability to return, he's shown up as being just as fragile.

"how do you beat a guy who has won 53/59 service points?"

LMFAO!    How do you think Fed's service point percentage would look if he played against me?  How do you think the percentage look like if he played Nadal?

Federer really has been quite amazing in this match. Just great to watch. He will get punished by the better players though if he keeps trying to run around for the forehand

I am not denying Fed is playing well. Course he is. But it's being made easy for him. What is Raonic doing exactly on return to win points? What is his strategy? He's happy to just get the ball in play, and try and push an UE out of Fed. Except it's Raonic who makes the UE every 3rd ball. Raonic will never trouble any of the top guns at the majors playing like this.

No worries DStyle, I base my betting on statistics so as the set progresses and the favourite has not broken serve then prices need to adjust accordingly (based on stats only).  I have accurate stats for each part of the first set, but once it gets to 2nd and 3rd etc there is less data for each possibility so it becomes less accurate.

djoc,backers would not have enjoyed that math.[:silly

fed still exellent.

but he won't reach the final

bagel for raoinc incoming

39th GS QF

aza got injury.

Fed on betfair?

Federer knows the BF prices! Legend.

Though I suspect it wasn't Betfair, more like a HS bookmaker, as he quoted 1.01.

1.01? give him a bit more respect!!!

although nole was 1.03/1.04 from the off so it was probably a dirty bookie.

Does he read forum as well?

I love the notion of Federer checking the odds before he goes off. Murray, favourite, against me, for **** sake, the cheek of i!

it*

Reveal yourself GOAT

he's almost certainly George W Bush

i wouldn't be surprized to know that fed made some money with bookies

*making

his eyes and face expression show that he has some dirty secrets

not now maybe but 2-3 years ago when he played some strange matches

just a theory of course

wat exactly did fed say lads?

He just stated that the 1.01 odds for Djokovic to beat Stan were an insult to SW ability , clearly talking about bookmakers odds and he must have his default set to decimals & not fractions otherwise he'd almost certainly have quoted 1/100 , as for condescending to read a gambling forum .....do me a favour.


Good luck guys , hope the tournament's going well   

backing the next 3 shorties,in a treble would give 1/2,not for me.

hayden maybe he was on about betfair?

More likely it's because he would have watched an Australian broadcast. And on Australian broadcasts they often display the odds for telephone betting etc. So he probably saw on broadcast the bookmaker offering Djokovic 1.01.

I hadn't realised how utterly gash Raonic is once a rally starts.  Fed was immaculate but Raonic is seriously pish.

backing the 4 shorties would give u 8/11,fourfold.small bet.

go to YOU TUBE tap in....Federer on exchange odds