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VT90
07 Jan 13 19:35
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since the beginning of the new season i feel that the amount of money in the markets is much lower than in the end of last year! why?
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Report munkeyhorn. January 7, 2013 9:51 PM GMT
Lost Greece and Germany, Spain severely limited..
Report smb360 January 7, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
The time difference and the AUS wallet are also factors.

I'm sure the Open will be fine.
Report swebih January 7, 2013 10:42 PM GMT
smb360

if you look 1 year back same time liquidity was much much better,as it is now its not possible to trade,some small price lay for fun.Benefit is that market press leader very hard and you can find value lay easier....
Report The Bhoys January 7, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
aus open will be fine. dont worry
Report swebih January 7, 2013 10:49 PM GMT
no doubt
Report swebih January 7, 2013 10:50 PM GMT
no doubt
Report VT90 January 7, 2013 11:45 PM GMT
surely will be better :) but i'm afraid that government restrictions in many countries may affect that. not sure how it will be in Portugal, but looks like we'll be restricted too :s
Report Darlo Bantam January 8, 2013 12:03 AM GMT
Aus wallet. Plus streaming being sporadic. Plus time of matches. I ain't judging this week by the season to come; I certainly hope it picks up anyway.
Report _PT1 January 8, 2013 12:06 AM GMT
This week is normal the low liquidity,
VT90 what did you read about the restrictions in Portugal?
Report Vasek January 8, 2013 12:22 AM GMT
Low liquidity? The snooker Munich Open last week was LOW liquidity Laugh
Report VT90 January 8, 2013 12:23 AM GMT
i heard a few months ago that they were studying online games (poker, casino, sports betting) wich led to the creation of Anaon.. since the beginning of 2013 lucky games of "Santa Casa" started to the taxed at 20 %.. this make me think some legislation is about to come to sports betting, and if they follow the tendency of other european countries portuguese traders could be in trouble
Report DStyle January 8, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
swebih 07 Jan 13 22:42 
smb360

if you look 1 year back same time liquidity was much much better,as it is now its not possible to trade,some small price lay for fun.Benefit is that market press leader very hard and you can find value lay easier....


anything to back that up?

because a quick look at two representative matches, and i don't see any difference.

the truth is that matches played between about 01:30 and 05:30 GMT in Australia on non televised courts attract absolutely fack all liquidity.

and that applies for the Australian Open as well.

same thread, every year.
Report DStyle January 8, 2013 12:55 AM GMT
here's a good example:

Kuz vs Goerges yesterday: started at 02:30, three sets, loads of excellent trading opportunities, kuz went VERY low in the third before wobbling which should push up total matched, £90,813

Barthel vs Barty: started at 12:10, three sets, total matched: £1.2 million.
Report Dirkules January 8, 2013 1:02 AM GMT

Jan 7, 2013 -- 9:51PM, munkeyhorn. wrote:


Lost Greece and Germany, Spain severely limited..


well some germans are still here :D

Report VT90 January 8, 2013 1:34 AM GMT
barthel had 1.2 million matched? didn't konw, that means it's not working trading at night
Report swebih January 8, 2013 1:37 AM GMT
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Report swebih January 8, 2013 1:38 AM GMT
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Report Darlo Bantam January 8, 2013 1:40 AM GMT

Jan 8, 2013 -- 1:34AM, VT90 wrote:


barthel had 1.2 million matched? didn't konw, that means it's not working trading at night


I made more trading one single point in the Stosur match this morning than I did trying to trade the matches earlier on, i.e. late the previous night - though I gave it up as a bad job fairly early last night.

Report swebih January 8, 2013 1:43 AM GMT
that´s very simple

betfair not allowed in italy,spain,france,germany,greece

look how many people was at betfair forum 5 years ago and look today...Cry
Report shiraz January 8, 2013 1:59 AM GMT
DStyle is exactly right, I had a look at some figures for ATP matches in same tournies last year and the turnover is comparable.  Chennai final pre match this year even had twice as much matched in the H2H market than last year.
Report swebih January 8, 2013 2:00 AM GMT
wea are not talking about 1 match,we are talking about week 1,ok?
Report shiraz January 8, 2013 2:04 AM GMT
Did you read what I wrote swebih?

I am not going to put all the figures from last year and this year up on here, but they are comparable.
Report swebih January 8, 2013 2:08 AM GMT
i dont agree and i dont care
Report DStyle January 8, 2013 2:18 AM GMT
lol
Report shiraz January 8, 2013 2:23 AM GMT
swebih, you need the happy seal.

Report caramba January 8, 2013 2:28 AM GMT
swebih • January 8, 2013 1:43 AM GMT
look how many people was at betfair forum 5 years ago and look today...


rome was banned/quit posting.
Report swebih January 8, 2013 2:28 AM GMT
hehehe that was good


hahahhaa
Report swebih January 8, 2013 2:29 AM GMT
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Report Darlo Bantam January 11, 2013 12:27 AM GMT
Worst bit about the money in these Australian markets is that so much of it hits the market and is cancelled within two seconds.
Report andyl January 11, 2013 12:30 AM GMT
correct and then you read betfair are thinking of increasing the bet placement on horse racing from 1second to 3 fkin laughable
Report VT90 January 11, 2013 12:39 AM GMT
it has been difficult to trade until today.. markets are weird, hoping next week will be better
Report andyl January 11, 2013 12:40 AM GMT
those in aus can submit prices before the point and then cancel that's why you don;t get matched most of the market makers in between points are in aus
Report Love the green January 11, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
no one trades tennis in the first few weeks of the year for obvious reasons after AO the atp events will have normal liquidity
Report DStyle January 11, 2013 2:07 AM GMT
Darlo Bantam 11 Jan 13 00:27 
Worst bit about the money in these Australian markets is that so much of it hits the market and is cancelled within two seconds.


it's not unique to australian markets - you'll see it on all markets, particularly evident on non-televised courts.

it's one person, on all the markets, hoovering on updates with fill or kill orders.

the stakes are dynamically sized based on liquidity.
Report easyodds_eu January 11, 2013 8:27 AM GMT
denmark also banned from australian matches...
Report crazycrazytsonga January 11, 2013 9:56 AM GMT
I want to rejoin BetFair, but don't feel like paying the 1.5% deposit fee for Visa and Mastercard.
Report bb66 January 11, 2013 11:46 AM GMT
you can use Moneybookers for free
Report lurka January 11, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
CCT use a debit card and you get the 1.5% back shortly after depositing. I have noticed that there is no money moving on the dog side of the market in these Aus tourneys, always on the player below 2.0 and when the market flips it switches to the other side, which is trange. But we will see in AO, it is probably due to the time of these matches in Aus.
Report lurka January 11, 2013 11:40 PM GMT
*strange
Report nofx January 11, 2013 11:53 PM GMT
DStyle • January 8, 2013 12:50 AM GMT
same thread, every year.


damn! there goes my the real gamblers blew it all 20 december 2012 pun


and can everyone not being able to "work" in a 1m (million) markets just stfu please, you're all full of it Laugh
Report nofx January 11, 2013 11:54 PM GMT
also the yankees their munny is a coming, give it some time we can has threads about abundance of plenty
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