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By:
mesmerised
When: 07 Nov 12 07:02
14 if you include the exhibition, only gone to 3 sets on 4 occasions too, not in slams.

Where are you getting 1.26, it's 1.25 with laddies, actually doesn't matter, 1.66 for 2-0 Fed is a better option.
By:
Maestro_71
When: 07 Nov 12 09:20
1.27 now on here
By:
hollywood85
When: 07 Nov 12 15:59
Its too low considering the way ferrer has been playing
By:
MrTedd
When: 07 Nov 12 16:46
Ferrer has been playing VERY well.. BUT Feds beaten him 13 times to ZERO. Ferrer simply CANT BEAT HIM!... 1.24 is amazing odds :)))))))))
By:
bb66
When: 07 Nov 12 17:29
sometimes Fed even loses to whipping boys for the 1st time like Blake in Beijing Olympics, I'd be careful
By:
satana
When: 07 Nov 12 17:32
get back to your muggish thread b66 u mug
By:
DStyle
When: 07 Nov 12 20:22
it's a terrible match up.

and there nothing different about this court from last year's SF (which i might add i enjoyed from excellent seats at the O2) to make any difference

he'll try to nadal him, constantly going after his backhand, but it doesn't work because he hasn't got the revolutions to make fed uncomfortable. eventually he'll drop it short, or not get the angle, and once it's on fed's forehand he can't live with him.

it's a massive price, when fed was 1.16 here last year, and he's had  better year this year and isn't ferrer supposed to be tired.
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 07 Nov 12 22:50
The way Ferrer has been playing makes you think that it could be a close game. But Federer will probably piss it considering his ridiculous record against him.
By:
lurka
When: 08 Nov 12 03:44
Fed has beaten him 2-0 at the last 2 Masters ATP events and 3-0 in the 07 final. Ferrer hasn't taken a set from him indoors. He has only taken 3 sets in 13 matches overall, 2 of those were on clay, ferrer's best and fed's worst surface. However well Ferrer is playing, I don't think he has a game plan for Federer, nothing seems to work for him. I'm not sure he believes he can beat him. His head tends to drop once he goes behind to him. Ferrer is the type of player who gives his opponent the runaround with his power and energy but those roles tend to be reversed against fed and that doesn't work for Ferrer. The H2H shows all of this. Losing this will not be fatal for Ferrer either, as I think he'll still beat Tipsy and get through.

If it is ever going to happen, now is the time but it's not something I'd bet on. If I can get a higher price on Fed in play or if he goes too low too early then I might get involved for a trade but it doesn't look like backers will make a large return on stake in this one.
By:
morrillo
When: 08 Nov 12 04:46
the price is pretty good for a 1.05
By:
bubasan10
When: 08 Nov 12 11:52
one set from 20 out of clay for Ferrer plus rested Roger on final masters, let's be real
By:
Impossible_is_nothing
When: 08 Nov 12 11:57
Federer in 2 doesnt have the game in terms of power for example like delpo or court coverage like Novak or court coverage and power like the Muzza to threaten, hes just a wall..... not good enough. back this match for 2 sets fellas its due weve had 2 matches going to 3. back the 2 setter till u win the dough its overdue lol. lay a 2-1 to fed aswell considering last two matches have been 2-1 to the favs lol. go in and deeper again if fed wins 2-1 for the delpo-tipsi match and make up your cash or make something.
By:
xiaojun
When: 08 Nov 12 12:02
going to O2 see feder v ferrer in one hour :)))))) got tixs yesterday. those tixs r expensive. 80£ each...... but worth it:)))))) not sure if i can get faster internet:))))))))))))))))
By:
Impossible_is_nothing
When: 08 Nov 12 12:04
duddeeee itll be over in no time roger will own him 2-0, 6-2 6-3.
By:
Makanaki2
When: 08 Nov 12 12:21
if ferrer looses and wins against tipsi it should be okay for him, he should save energy here.
By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Nov 12 12:51
he'll try to nadal him, constantly going after his backhand, but it doesn't work because he hasn't got the revolutions to make fed uncomfortable. eventually he'll drop it short, or not get the angle, and once it's on fed's forehand he can't live with him.


Not to mention that's a bad idea anyway, federer's one of very few to play the one handed backhand, and it's a lethal as they come, ferrer's only hope is to pray.
By:
mesmerised
When: 08 Nov 12 13:35
Day 3 of Betfair Tennis Expert Sean Calvert's predictions 0/2


In-form David Ferrer takes on Roger Federer for the 14th time today and is still searching for his first win over the Swiss. Will it be today? Sean Calvert talks us through the best bets.

Wednesday at the O2 proved to be a frustrating one for outright match odds punters, as Andy Murray was beaten by Novak Djokovic after a great start.

The Scot, sporting another seriously tight-fitting kit, this time in yellow and white, was fully in control of the match after outplaying Djokovic in the opening set and made for a good trade from his starting point of 2.16.
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But he lost concentration and allowed the Serb back in it before a third set rally saw him two points from winning the match, however Nole wasn't to be denied in the end.

Thursday sees Group B's second helping of round robin matches take centre stage with Roger Federer taking on David Ferrer for the 14th time at tour level and the Spaniard is yet to win a single one.

Confidence wise, Ferrer will surely not have a better shot at grabbing a win over his nemesis than today, but the concern is fatigue after two long weeks on tour plus an energy sapping three-setter against Juan Martin Del Potro on Tuesday night.

If Ferrer has anything left in the tank he is the sort of form to give the Swiss a scare, but the match-up is clearly an awful one for the Spaniard.

He can take heart from Nikolay Davydenko breaking a 12 match losing streak against Federer here in 2009 when the odds were roughly the same as the 1.24 and 5.0 that they are today, so it's not impossible. Fernando Gonzalez also did it at the year-end event in China a couple of years earlier too.

After going 0-5 against top-10 players at the start of the year, Ferrer has won six of the last nine against them and four of the last five, but it's hard to have a huge amount of faith with that 0-13 record against Federer.

The Swiss defends too well indoors against Ferrer and on hard, indoor hard and carpet Federer has won 17 of the 18 sets they've played against each other, so there's little to really inspire me to back against the world number two today in the match odds market.

But confidence is a huge thing on a tennis court and for me the value in this one lies in the first set market - a set where Ferrer will be giving it his absolute all and over 9.5 games at around 1.8 looks a good bet to me.

I get the feeling that if Federer wins the first set then the effects of the last few weeks will suddenly catch up with Ferrer, but he's kept it tight in the opener against the Swiss in four of their last five meetings and he's in the sort of form to do so again today.

Recommended Bet back over 9.5 games in set one at 1.8





Laughthere was no mention of a trading strategy yesterday, just an outright bet, behave. Let's hope this tip isn't 6-3, they've played here for the last 2 years, first set 2011 7-5 fed, first set 2010 6-1 fed, Surely can't be 3 straight losers, if so I want his job.
By:
nofx
When: 08 Nov 12 13:37
"off course i greened"  what a m*therf*cker  LaughLaugh
By:
nofx
When: 08 Nov 12 13:38
too fcking low. probably the guy is one of our notorious rampers of old  PlainLaughLaugh
By:
Handsome Irishman.
When: 08 Nov 12 13:40
Beware Fed backers. NOBODY beats David Ferrer fifteen times in a row.
By:
lurka
When: 08 Nov 12 13:56
nobody beat him 13 times in a row (excluding the exhib match for the moment) before they last played either. Nobody beat him 12 times in a row before that match. I could go on...........
By:
lurka
When: 08 Nov 12 14:00
that 1.8 on o9.5 is a total punt, trying to find something to bet on and it seems low to me, esp if fed serves first. should be evens or higher slightly higher imo but I think Fed will be happy enough with one break in the opening set. This guy has had a bad week on the tips
By:
DStyle
When: 08 Nov 12 14:00
But confidence is a huge thing on a tennis court and for me the value in this one lies in the first set market - a set where Ferrer will be giving it his absolute all and over 9.5 games at around 1.8 looks a good bet to me.

nice to see "a tennis expert" backing a first set total games before the toin coss.

and quite where he's getting 1.8 is a mystery as well.

1.65 ~ 1.7 on the exchange
Plain
By:
DStyle
When: 08 Nov 12 14:01
fed serves

under 9.5 should be favourite
By:
StevoDevo
When: 08 Nov 12 14:05
Ferrer has won 11 matches straight and is in career best form.

He plays so much better on indoor courts than he used to - (11 in a row).

However, I agree with others, this is a terrible match up for Ferrer.
Fed wins more free points off his serve than Ferrer by a significant margin.

He'll give Ferrer no rhythm to work with - the Spaniard can expect the usual varied assortment of short balls, droppers, change-ups etc etc
Fed's slice is hugely effective on these courts - it's both a weapon and a defensive shot rolled into one.
Federer spreads the court amazingly well - meaning even one of the great defenders in Ferrer eventually runs out of time, space and answers.

Fed wins for me.
By:
Hayden
When: 08 Nov 12 14:06
Vitas had a legendary record of failure against Bjorn Borg, but never let it dampen his spirit. As he once famously said, "...let that be a lesson to you all. Nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitis 17 times in a row!" Of course, that may have been the cocaine talking.  Laugh


Gerulaitis died on September 17, 1994, at the age of 40. While visiting a friend's home in Southampton, Long Island, a malfunction in a propane heater caused carbon monoxide gas to seep into the guesthouse where Gerulaitis was sleeping, causing his death. Gerulaitis failed to show up for a dinner at 7pm that evening and his body was found the following day by a maid who went to the guesthouse.[4] Gerulaitis is interred in Saint Charles Cemetery in Farmingdale, Long Island, New York. Sad
By:
nofx
When: 08 Nov 12 14:07
another pummeling you would say. the prospect of all this free money worries me though. that 2-0 just doesn't look right
By:
tenniso
When: 08 Nov 12 14:07
Good summary. I agree, although, I have a feeling Fed could trade higher in-play.
By:
nofx
When: 08 Nov 12 14:08
oh feck here we go
By:
annibal
When: 08 Nov 12 14:08
the Ferrer of last few days maybe give some coins!
By:
fcp10
When: 08 Nov 12 14:08
ferrer on fire !?
By:
annibal
When: 08 Nov 12 14:09
oh ! brake!
By:
tenniso
When: 08 Nov 12 14:09
Ferrer on fire and Fed misfiring, but that will change
By:
fcp10
When: 08 Nov 12 14:09
ferrer is a nice guy, giving us better odds!
By:
fcp10
When: 08 Nov 12 14:10
Cool
By:
nofx
When: 08 Nov 12 14:10
backhand winner lol, one of beauty too
By:
tenniso
When: 08 Nov 12 14:11
well, he had his chance
By:
Impossible_is_nothing
When: 08 Nov 12 14:11
Rogers not my fav player at all one of my more hated cause hes screwed me before plus other reasons but if he loses today.......
By:
lurka
When: 08 Nov 12 14:11
'fed has a tendency to start slow', for the first 3 points lol
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