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Best bet from the off seems to be Federer 2-0, 1.42 -  I don't give Tipsy a chance tbh.

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By:
mesmerised
When: 06 Nov 12 11:29
from twitter via link

Tennis expert Sean Calvert began the week in good style by landing a winner on day one of the ATP World Tour Finals on Monday. Sean gives us his best bet on day two in the clash between Roger Federer and Janko Tipsarevic..

It was a good start to the final event on the 2012 ATP World Tour calendar at the O2 in London on Monday, as my opening bet of the week was successful.

It was always likely to be an up and down affair between Andy Murray and Tomas Berdych and after a nervy start the Scot was able to come through in three and bring my bet home at a decent 2.50.

Day two of the World Tour Finals sees the entrance of defending champion Roger Federer, who takes on the big outsider of the tournament Janko Tipsarevic.

On the face of it this looks like the perfect opener for Federer against an opponent who he's beaten five times from five attempts and someone who was last seen quitting in Paris last week with all sorts of supposed ailments.

I have a feeling that there wasn't a great deal wrong with Janko last week and similarly to others in Bercy it appears that the Serb opted to save himself for this tournament, but he's now claiming to be suffering from a virus, which clouds things a little.

It shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone to see him retire, as he now has either quit or withdrawn 28 times in his career, compared with Federer's two. Shocked

At his best Tipsarevic can certainly give the Swiss a run for his money and an interesting fact is that Federer's opening round robin match in the year-end championships have gone to three sets six times in the last seven years.

So, I wouldn't be too keen to run out and put all of the Christmas present money on a 2-0 Fed win at around 1.4 based on those stats.
Laugh
He should come though this one, but he hasn't been at his peak since the summer, losing to Berdych in New York, Murray in Shanghai, and Juan Martin Del Potro in front of his home crowd in Basel.

He skipped Paris of course and it may take him a set just to get going here, so the bet I like is the 2.08 about Tipsy with a 4.5 games start on the handicap. If he's feeling OK he could go close and as we've already seen, he's not shy of quitting if he's not feeling well.

Federer failed to make the 4.5 game handicap against Thomaz Bellucci and Paul-Henri Mathieu in Basel and Tipsy, if he's not hampered by this virus, should add his name to that list.
Recommended Bet
Back Tipsarevic + 4.5 games to beat Federer at 2.08




Not sure what his record is.
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 06 Nov 12 11:32
Backed Tips (+4.5), Hernych (2.75 at a set down) and Man City. 7/1.
By:
The Bhoys
When: 06 Nov 12 11:34
fed is free beans
By:
CrowsEye
When: 06 Nov 12 12:25
Gone for Tips 2-0 at 16/1.

Sad
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 12:28
Grin that's the spirit!
By:
The Bhoys
When: 06 Nov 12 12:32
Laugh. thats how gambling works Wink
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 12:33
@mesmerised,  S Cal vert is an enormous muppet.  -4.5
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 12:39
cutting post in half again ffs
anyway not saying to do one or the other, pretty much a coinflip bet imho. you need at least 6-4 6-3, bollocks "tips"
By:
noTry
When: 06 Nov 12 12:39
It shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone to see him retire, as he now has either quit or withdrawn 28 times in his career, compared with Federer's two.

Federer has never retired from a match in his entire career...
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 12:39
for -4.5 to land*
ffs
By:
tweedy
When: 06 Nov 12 12:50
ok, I have to admit it!  I don't understand what '+4.5' and -4.5' means.  Can someone please explain to me ?
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 06 Nov 12 12:53
+4.5 handicap, means Tipsarevic gets a 4.5 game head start in line betting. Eg if the score is Federer 7-6 7-6 Tipsarevic, the total games is 14-12 in favour of Federer in which case he wins by 2 games. (The Tipsarevic bet would win in this instance)
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 06 Nov 12 12:54
If Tipsarevic Wins the game OR Loses the match by 1,2,3 or 4 games= The +4.5 Handicap Tipsarevic bet would pay out as well
By:
mesmerised
When: 06 Nov 12 12:58
@mesmerised,  S Cal vert is an enormous muppet.  -4.5


Betfair sports are always retweeting him,
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 12:59
that's because he works for them
By:
tweedy
When: 06 Nov 12 13:00
Thanks West Coast.  Think I'll just stick to what I know, but I now understand this x
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 06 Nov 12 13:01
no worries tweedy
By:
West Coast Eagles
When: 06 Nov 12 13:04
interesting stat about Fed's 6 of 7 opening games in ATP World Championships going the distance (during the last 7 seasons)........going to have a cheeky lay on Fed at 1.13 to keep things interesting, will look to trade out higher in-play
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 13:06
anyway was a bit fuzzy in the point making, imho the only way that bet lands is if 6-4 6-4 as i doubt tips will make it to 7-5 or a tb or better but that's a matter of opinion. it's not so close a line for no reason. just don't take it because some guy says so
By:
bb66
When: 06 Nov 12 13:16
@ noTry
Fed retirements probably refering to withdrawals during the tournament, once vs Blake in Bercy, and was it Doha this year?

Handicap bet on Tipsa has a higher chance to land if he loses in 2 than in 3 sets imo
By:
bb66
When: 06 Nov 12 13:19
yes, this year Doha SF vs Tsonga, both times w/o before the match with back injury
By:
mesmerised
When: 06 Nov 12 13:24
Forget the handicap, tipsy has won 20 games against fed in their last 7 sets, that's almost the equivalent of being beat on average 6-3 every set, i.e not meeting the handicap.
By:
nofx
When: 06 Nov 12 13:27
see you're already a better tipster than cal vert  Wink
By:
mesmerised
When: 06 Nov 12 13:29
Grin
By:
Pablito_Aimar
When: 06 Nov 12 13:47
Tipsarevic is a disgusting cheater, but he can win today. Roger has not played at the best level since the US Open. He lost to Berdych,Murray anda Del Potro...He even lost a set to Bellucci ffs...
By:
dfsdfs
When: 06 Nov 12 13:52
why game no start yet?
By:
LernhardBanger
When: 06 Nov 12 13:55
Laying Fed 1st set and also laying Fed most aces despite earlier dominance. Janko canget into ace patches sometimes and 1.25 is not justified odds. But probably a loss there Plain
By:
unlimited
When: 06 Nov 12 13:57
all who bat on tip are mugsLaugh
By:
unlimited
When: 06 Nov 12 13:57
bet
By:
tenniso
When: 06 Nov 12 13:59
CrowsEye - Sent you a pm
By:
annibal
When: 06 Nov 12 13:59
1.13 fishers lol
By:
gimpteaser
When: 06 Nov 12 14:00
6-3,6-4 Fed so why the hell am I laying Fed? Laugh Come on Tipsy just shout out some big words on court to sound intelligent and imtimidate Fed.
By:
LernhardBanger
When: 06 Nov 12 14:02
Tips will fight for first set for sure. Then fade away probably.
By:
annibal
When: 06 Nov 12 14:03
i think it can go to 1.08 und up a bit. only a very poor a fed lose vs janko
By:
annibal
When: 06 Nov 12 14:04
or risk 1.11 . sounds free lol
By:
unlimited
When: 06 Nov 12 14:04
tip you are here because rafa gave you that oportunitiHappy
By:
farki
When: 06 Nov 12 14:11
10 k on 1.11 Fedex
By:
unlimited
When: 06 Nov 12 14:11
go home mug
By:
unlimited
When: 06 Nov 12 14:13
never good oddt with this mug haha
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