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Carla done well here so far..........gonna wait a while i reckon
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Report edy October 5, 2012 3:42 PM BST
Maria had a big shoulder injury. Tommy Haas, who has also been coached by Thomas Hogstedt, has had three big shoulder surgeries.

Coincidence? I don't think so lads....
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:43 PM BST
so were stuck with that shouting for another ten years?  Cry
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:43 PM BST
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Report ;[p October 5, 2012 3:44 PM BST
hehwhe
Report edy October 5, 2012 3:46 PM BST
Don't think Federer ever used the PET in high doses like Ancic/Söderling and Zvonareva.

He did certainly use it in smaller doses however

http://gototennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Federer_towel.jpg

Probably did it to limit the side effects, but also to raise less suspicion. The man never sweats, why would he need to use a towel if it wasn't performance enhancing?
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 3:47 PM BST
maria needs a towel over hear head during the points actually. hope towel see that and mske a move in the future
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 3:48 PM BST
her*
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:49 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report caramba October 5, 2012 3:50 PM BST
Couldn't find a towel above the head pic for Federer, but while googling I found another tidbit.  Remember when Jimmy Jump attacked Fed at French Open final in 2009? It just became clear to me what he was trying to do, end Roger's career by putting a piece of cloth above his head. Granted it was a flag and not a towel so it might not have worked, but the intent was clearly there.
http://www.soundoffcolumn.com/images/federer-6-25-09.jpg
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:51 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report caramba October 5, 2012 3:52 PM BST

Oct 5, 2012 -- 3:46PM, edy wrote:


Don't think Federer ever used the PET in high doses like Ancic/Söderling and Zvonareva.He did certainly use it in smaller doses howeverhttp://gototennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Federer_towel.jpgPro... did it to limit the side effects, but also to raise less suspicion. The man never sweats, why would he need to use a towel if it wasn't performance enhancing?


Very good points there Edy.

Report ;[p October 5, 2012 3:54 PM BST
what about roddick he used to throw the towel with such disgust like it was its fault.maybe it was? maybe someone provided fake pet's to rod all this years and thats why he was such a ****
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:54 PM BST
it's one of those history deciding moments. had he succeeded we'd all be inches away from referring to Andy as Goat by now and none of us would even know what gluten meant
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:54 PM BST
other Andy... damn you board!!
Report nofx October 5, 2012 3:58 PM BST
performance enhancing towels LaughLaugh  just got that sorry
Report caramba October 5, 2012 3:58 PM BST
murray seems to have found out about the side effects of the towel use. look how he is avoiding to even touch it here, http://thestar.smgmedia.topscms.com/images/10/0d/a28027694125827f0528e5aa633...
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:01 PM BST
also rod usedvto carry the towel on his shoulder as like to enhance it before serving.plot thickness
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:01 PM BST
http://thestar.smgmedia.topscms.com/
images/10/0d/a28027694125827f0528e5aa6338.jpeg
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:03 PM BST

Oct 5, 2012 -- 4:01PM, ;[p wrote:


also rod usedvto carry the towel on his shoulder as like to enhance it before serving.plot thickness


and he would always adjust (brush off) the shirt after every point. coincidence? or a way to get rid of the side effects?

Report edy October 5, 2012 4:04 PM BST
That makes sense ;[p. Not only does it seem to enhance general performance, it also does spot-enhancement. Like improving your serve if you pot it on your serving shoulder. Or your mental stability if you put it on your head like Zvonareva and Söderling did.

It all finally makes sense why Nadal and some other players ask for the towel after every single point, even after getting aced and not even touching the ball.

They're all micro-dosing with PETs.
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:04 PM BST
in other film i can find murrays towel trying to got to him even trapped in the bag and jumps on the court. the killah towels theory is not written off yet
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:05 PM BST
don't those gangsterrappers do that brush off routine all the time too? mostly they're towels, think it's connected?
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:05 PM BST
and lying on the towells during mtos edy... hmmm
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:06 PM BST
Why do you recking they use the towel on their racquet hand? I've never seen a player lose the grip on his racquet immediately after using the towel. It must have some kind of grip-enhancing effect if you use it on your hands too.
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:06 PM BST
*reckon
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:06 PM BST
edy • October 5, 2012 4:04 PM BST Not only does it seem to enhance general performance, it also does spot-enhancement. Like improving your serve if you pot it on your serving shoulder. Or your mental stability if you put it on your head like Zvonareva and Söderling did.
LaughLaugh
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:07 PM BST
most of them mtos have miraculous effects dont forget.we know why now
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:10 PM BST
It can't be good for the ball boys to have contact with the towels to such an extent, especially at such a young age. I found an incident from a few years back, you can fast forward to about 20 seconds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ9OdfHDohE
If some of the tennis players choose to do this to their bodies, that's one thing, but the ball boys are innocent and shouldn't have to endure such risks.
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:11 PM BST
Yeah, one moment they look like they're suffering from a career ending injury, then 3 minutes on the towel, or with a towel lying on their legs they're running around with as much ease and joy as baby pandas that have a slide nearby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGF6bOi1NfA
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:11 PM BST
Or your mental stability if you put it on your head like Zvonareva ... makes sense, considering it's power she may have overdosed
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:13 PM BST
It's the dark side of having a sports that involves such big bucks for being successful. People lose every bit of mercy and compassion they might've had once.

It's sad to see.
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:14 PM BST
most definitely performance enhancing  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv0_TQG2fE0
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:14 PM BST
that last one was about the ball kids
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:14 PM BST
hah thats explain such a high mortality rate in ballboy's cimmunity.so far 100% dies eventually.we know why.shockin. must report it to the sun.its huge scandal.aomebody tryung to brush all those facts under carpet
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:14 PM BST
they rotate
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:16 PM BST
another ffs. that was at edy's comment
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:18 PM BST
Good piece of evidence noffy.

Based on that video the major enhancement seems to be hand-eye coordination, which as we all know is the most important part in all of tennis. It's not so apparent from only watching the tennis players as we naturally assume they're good and talented at that anyway, but the way that ball boy catches it definitely improves coordination big time.
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:18 PM BST
fear to say but a rad always casually lay towell on her legs.and the she runs as she runs.shocking
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:19 PM BST

Oct 5, 2012 -- 4:14PM, ;[p wrote:


hah thats explain such a high mortality rate in ballboy's cimmunity.so far 100% dies eventually.we know why.shockin. must report it to the sun.its huge scandal.aomebody tryung to brush all those facts under carpet


he he he this why no future actual Goats seem to emerge. it's ones of those grand scale conspiracies that totally feck with history

Report edy October 5, 2012 4:19 PM BST
The trainer also put a towel on Radwanska's legs yesterday during her MTO in the first set. Went on to steam roll the next set out of the blue.
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:20 PM BST

Oct 5, 2012 -- 4:14PM, nofx wrote:


most definitely performance enhancing

Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:21 PM BST
Laugh he got his 15 minutes of fame alright. but is it worth it? eventually it will lead to incidents such as the one I posted previously or incidents like this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9PG0nbC-Js&feature=endscreen&NR=1 , and after a few years their careers will be over and their overall health in danger.
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:21 PM BST
finally we have decent thread ffs and this board totally stiffs it to you. they're in on it i tell you
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:25 PM BST
they know alright. less PET means quality in tennis goes down, which means less interest in tennis, which means less betting on betfair.
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:26 PM BST
Laugh he got his 15 minutes of fame alright. but is it worth it? eventually it will lead to incidents such as the one I posted previously or incidents like this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9PG0nbC-Js&feature=endscreen&NR=1 , and after a few years their careers will be over and their overall health in danger.

Laugh  might be the CIA planted it.
remember when that girl ran into Aggie? Scared
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:28 PM BST
Of course it's wrong caramba, but try to reason with a kid that age that he has to think of the long-term consequences. He probably can't even imagine ever reaching an ancient age like....20...

But not only kids. As you can see from the plenty of evidence we've collected on grown up, adult tennis players some people will do a lot to get some fame. Even if it comes with a significant health risk.
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:30 PM BST
another thing. I don't know what it's like at other tournaments than Wimbledon, but at Wimbledon an incredible amount of towels are stolen by the players. Coiincidence?
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:32 PM BST
but are the kids even aware? i don't think they are. that's why this whole thing is so unfair on them. at least most of the players knows what they are doing. i'm sure that ball catching kid at AO was very happy at that moment, but I doubt he knows the real reason why he was able to catch that ball.
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:33 PM BST
nofx maybe its hghly addictive. the girl fun into rad TO GET HER towel touch it for a second at least...
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:33 PM BST
we all know most peds are used in the UK and most performance decreasing ones in US. this may go for towels as well
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:34 PM BST
I think the kids are involved in it and are actively dosing. They have to be cautious and find a fine line. That kid in the Troicki match was definitely overdosing and hence in a state of mental panic.

If you don't dose at all however, because you know about the risks and you have at least one year of being a beautiful and wanted model ahead of you, you'll be sitting ducks for assaults by tennis players because your reactions are just too damn slow for the job.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXvW7f8Q1U0
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:34 PM BST
those junkies know no stopping
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:35 PM BST
caramba dont be naive.its mony machine,kids are probably imported from 3 rd world and its their fate
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:35 PM BST
Or maybe the tennis players just didn't dare giving the model ball girls the towels and the players always put the towels on chairs near the walls themselves. That's why her reactions were so slow.
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:35 PM BST
she simply never got to touch a towel
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:37 PM BST
sadly, you might be right edy, another example here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqrZYLuc24c
i still think they're the real victims in this whole thing.
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:37 PM BST
See that at 1:00 in the video I posted? Djokovic really puts the towel down all by himself!
Report nofx October 5, 2012 4:40 PM BST

Oct 5, 2012 -- 4:37PM, caramba wrote:


sadly, you might be right edy, another example here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqrZYLuc24c i still think they're the real victims in this whole thing.


the expression on her face when he doesn't appear to start moving  Laugh

Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:41 PM BST
i knew djokovic will be involved in this
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:42 PM BST
what a lecherous old man.
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:42 PM BST
and a similar pattern at 0.27 in my video edy. does llodra let ball girl use the towel? oh no.
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:46 PM BST
So I guess we can agree that tennis players make sure to keep ball girls from touching any of their towels towels because they plan on hitting on them, literally.
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:46 PM BST
fecker teasing with addict ffs
Report edy October 5, 2012 4:47 PM BST
and don't want to harm them.

No such reservations for ball boys
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:53 PM BST
wow we hit another even deeper case.ballboy trafficking .shocking
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:54 PM BST
that seems to be the case, edy. ball girls = no PET so guys can hit on them. ball boys = PET, which leads to performance enhancement (AO ball kid), but can also lead to overdoses such as Troicki ball kid and fainting ball kid.
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 4:55 PM BST
and all because carla run out of challenges   lol
Report caramba October 5, 2012 4:58 PM BST
well, sometimes you stumble upon these things by chance. I'm glad we did though.
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 5:00 PM BST
what about linejudges they seems to be always scared but few accidental towell touches and some of them wants more... guy from queens and girl at serenas usopen final topping the list.players seems to react quickly destroing problem in the core
Report nofx October 5, 2012 5:03 PM BST
he he he. good enough for me, feel the board got shine back somewhat. was good but sadly must run. good luck, good night! not long before Na Fix, Shutitpova and fore mentioned arbitrage back on stage
Happy
Report ;[p October 5, 2012 5:10 PM BST
yep me toogood luck and nice evening to everybody
Report caramba October 5, 2012 5:11 PM BST
I'm sure there's more, but I'm afraid to dig deeper at the moment, as I don't want to lose all my faith in the sport. good discussion though. Happy
Report wooky October 6, 2012 3:15 AM BST
I watched the match and the chair umpire was definately Eva Asderaki
Report caramba October 6, 2012 8:51 AM BST
I mentioned this in another thread, but felt it should be mentioned here as well:
http://www.juicymagonline.com/life/2012/05/serena-williams-launches-enduracool-towel/#.UG_iYZj6eto
This explains both her success and her health struggles.
Report nofx October 6, 2012 9:08 AM BST
yes this definitely incriminating evidence must not be left out. would also like to note that a lot of superheros wear capes which are really just beachtowels basically
Report nofx October 6, 2012 9:09 AM BST
and most of them turn to the darkside at some point in their careers too
Report caramba October 6, 2012 9:13 AM BST

Oct 6, 2012 -- 9:08AM, nofx wrote:


yes this definitely incriminating evidence must not be left out. would also like to note that a lot of superheros wear capes which are really just beachtowels basically


good observation.

Report nofx October 6, 2012 9:16 AM BST
and omg just thought of it, what about women skirts...  ScaredScared
Report caramba October 6, 2012 9:30 AM BST
remember when the Louis Armstrong court broke at US Open 2011 between Ferrer and Roddick?
http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/us-open-water-on-court.jpg?w=300
At first glance you'd think that was just an accident, but it was clearly a side effect of them using towels (as well as machines) when drying the courts instead of using covers like they do at Wimbledon for instance, where something like this would never happen.
Report edy October 6, 2012 9:31 AM BST
Do you guys not think that it is all a bit too coincidental that Serena released that EnduraCool PET not too long after the drug-tester/burglar/thief showed up at her house and forced Serena to lock herself into her panic room?

She must've been in the middle of testing different top-notch design PETs to choose the final product from and could of course not be caught while being on a PET cycle.
Report caramba October 6, 2012 9:33 AM BST
Personally I think it's a bit unnecessary to use PET's for court maintenance, but clearly the USTA don't agree with me. I understand that they want to have the best possible courts, but is it really worth it when it can lead to embarrassing situations like the one above?
Report nofx October 6, 2012 9:34 AM BST
Laugh fck it goes really much deeper that anticipated
Report edy October 6, 2012 9:37 AM BST
THERE, did you see? Sharapova put a towel on her legs to keep herself from cramping!!
Report edy October 6, 2012 9:41 AM BST
Caramba, do you think to PET effect could transfer onto the courts and then onto the players after a rain delay?

I think we all remember the Sharapova-Petrova match at the US Open. Sharapova was a complete mess once the (supposed) PET effect from the previous rain delay had worn off around the start of the 2nd set. Then after PETs had been reapplied onto court early in the 3rd set she was all of a sudden refocused, full of energy and playing her absolute best again.
Report edy October 6, 2012 9:42 AM BST
Or do you reckon Sharapova simply used PETs in the locker room during the delay?
Report caramba October 6, 2012 9:45 AM BST
Missed that Edy, but well spotted again.
While googling for more proof on tennis players using PET's, I found this: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02116/tennis-towel_2116917i.jpg
She won't have a long career if she keeps overdosing like that.
Report caramba October 6, 2012 9:48 AM BST
I thought the PET's they used for the courts were simply for court maintenance, but now that you mention it there might be a correlation. After all it happened twice for Sharapova during the USO. And the market seemed to know exactly what was going on since the odds on Sharapova shortened both times.
Report caramba October 6, 2012 9:53 AM BST
That was Kvitova in my pic btw. Not sure how effective the PET's are for her with her asthma issues. Maybe she feels she has to overdose for there to be any effect and thinks it's worth the risks.
Report edy October 6, 2012 9:56 AM BST
She had by far her best ever Australian Open and French Open results this year after apparently heavily increasing the dose of PETs.

Coincidence?
Report nofx October 6, 2012 10:35 AM BST
apparently it leaves the towels not entirely unaffected it selves...  http://www.surebeatswork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/towelie.jpg
Report nofx October 6, 2012 10:37 AM BST
wait not sure that site is safe. do not click
Report nofx October 6, 2012 10:38 AM BST
sorry
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28bfog2&s=6
Report caramba October 6, 2012 10:46 AM BST
so it seems the word about PET's are starting to spread. These pictures were taken just two days ago in Beijing after an Azarenka match.
http://features.rr.com/photo/00nKfGF3yofYZ
http://www.tennisdigital.com/photos/4906.aspx

This raises a few questions though:
Are these guys just fans who have realized the value of a used PET as a collectors item with the intention of putting it up on Ebay?
Or are they tennis dads seeing the potential in a PET used by Azarenka with the intention of using the towel on their sons/daughters and/or possibly having the towel analyzed in a lab in hope of creating their own version of the Azarenka PET?
Or are they just perverts unaware of the whole PET concept? (The fact they went to watch a Vesnina match supports this theory).
Or are they WADA personel in disguise looking for proof in order to put a stop to the whole PET business?
Report caramba October 6, 2012 10:47 AM BST
Grin nofx. there are so many victims in this.
Report nofx October 6, 2012 10:55 AM BST
Laugh I think I support get-your-sibbling-into-sports-and-get-rich theory, those Chinese are a clever bunch on the up and coming
but tampering with evidence also plausible enough

so it seems the word about PET's are starting to spread. These pictures were taken just two days ago in Beijing after an Azarenka match.
http://features.rr.com/photo/00nKfGF3yofYZ
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I'm starting to get scared, think we should be careful with this
Report nofx October 6, 2012 10:56 AM BST
Douglas Adams knew about it long before we even got suspicious http://towelday.org/
Report Java October 6, 2012 11:19 AM BST
about to see more WTA cowardice I think.  Lose a tight first set so better lose second 6-0
Report caramba October 10, 2012 6:05 PM BST
we can't have this thread on the 2nd page!
so I was youtubing some old Lendl clips and stumbled upon the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1zkNyxSrzE&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Mecir's response is up there with Söderling's arse-cratching against Rafa. Probably not a good idea to p i s s guys like Lendl and Rafa off, but very amusing nontheless.
Report caramba October 10, 2012 6:05 PM BST
*scratching
Report caramba October 10, 2012 6:08 PM BST
I used to hate Mecir as a kid because he would often win against the Swedes (dubbed Swedekiller in our media at the time), but my opinion of him has chanced after watching this.
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