ivanovic

that being said, I think this is only the second time I watch Oprandi play... not bad

...and ivanovic gets broken again, oprandi to serve for the first set... wow

.... 6-4 oprandi... of course... good job, ana

You got a live stream for this?

typical... and i never lay her lol

maybe she's too cute

http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-4/4/170/v-457141.html

oprandi destroying her...

Oct 3, 2012 -- 6:20AM, PatrickSwaze wrote:

typical... and i never lay her lolmaybe she's too cute

i have never understood why she's considered hot... she looks plain and stupid

slow starter like against Lepchenko

this is beyond starting slowly, oprandi dictating most points... already broken in second set...this is not looking good

her only hope is if "romina" (wtf?) starts spraying UEs... small chance of that, on the back of what we've seen so far

yeah, she's not there... ivanovic starting to blast the ball, this probably going to be a 6-0 set for oprandi

even her coach thinks she's a mug!

Oct 3, 2012 -- 6:32AM, rockinreebo wrote:

even her coach thinks she's a mug!

lol true

wow ... gsm

how on earth is this retarded b1tch still in the top 50???

ana MUST retire. Kournikova, Ivanovic...? What was her last name?

agreed, she is embarrassing herself

There's nothing that annoys me as much as when one of these professional (supposedly top 20) players starts playing and behaving like they don't give a **** on court.  It's so unprofessional!

thing is, i don't think she came on court to tank...I think she tried, is just that with her, once the going gets tough, she has zero mental capacity to overcome it... and thanks to the retarded ways of the WTA rankings system, she is still able to float around main draws, when at this point she should already be in qualifiers

my god poor Ana...

i waw waiting for Goerges value but the 2 stupid serbian plus Makarova are completely choking

I agree but being the mental midget that she is, how did she ever get as high in the game as she did??

same as this year... she played very well at 3 grand slams (made round of 16s and one QF) and that's enough points to keep her at the top of the game...

wow, she finally manages to break... on a DF... lol... can she actually hold serve and make oprandi serve it out, again??

Will she hold?

good start... 00-15... god she is bad

00-30

FML lol

Three morning match are joke... and i really not would lay none of them

actually FHL

hahahahahaa

fukc her life indeed, two match points

match over. really embarrasing...

it's ok, at least after she does badly at the Aussie open she will fall out of the top 20, and then when she doesn't defend indian wells points she is out of top 30, and then bye bye seeding at grand slams... it's only a matter of months before we say good bye to her

Unbelievable!  She's in the black book as of today

Oct 3, 2012 -- 6:55AM, rockinreebo wrote:

Unbelievable!

it's just her menstrual cicle. bet against her every 2th of month

Hercog the mug @5
Suarez @ 3.85
Oprandi @ 4.2

all won the first set... incredible, cant see a value

oprandi and hercog i wouldn't have called either... but little boy carlos (not to mention whom he's playing) was clear value

Suarez is a good player, lots of wins against top 10

by the way Kvitova said she got infection, that's why she lost to CSN

don't care about her win over Kvitova, many SOLID wins in Grand Slams against top players, and 2? 1/4 finals as well. Clearly the best single-handed backhand in womans tennis nowdays.

I think Carla was not a clear value... Jankovic destroyed her at the beginning and have lots of mant weapons...

Just think to two serbian mug are completely useless now

Suarez can beat top players, and she can lose to MUGS, seen too many of her matches

do you know what you're writing? Once you critisize the ranking system for allowing Wozniacki (Safina, etc) to take the top without winning a slam, on the other you state slams are overrated with Ana being top 20 only on decent slam performances

bb66 ??

wasn't pointed at you Tytfaen, but to the whole community here, inspired by this posting


atlasshrugged23              03 Oct 12

same as this year... she played very well at 3 grand slams (made round of 16s and one QF) and that's enough points to keep her at the top of the game...

no problem bb66

Oct 3, 2012 -- 8:04AM, bb66 wrote:

do you know what you're writing? Once you critisize the ranking system for allowing Wozniacki (Safina, etc) to take the top without winning a slam, on the other you state slams are overrated with Ana being top 20 only on decent slam performances

you completely missed my point. not surprised, tho. what I was saying was that it's unacceptable for a player who literally does well at just 3-4 tournaments (where, coincidentally, she benefits from beeing seeded) to not fall faster through the rankings when she is obviously getting beaten left and right. What I am complaining about when it comes to the rankings is that, because they aggregate 12 months' worth of results, they are too static and don't reflect the reality of a season... u can't tell me that right now ivanovic deserves to be in the top 20.

what this ranking system is missing is 1) a shorter period of aggregation (6 months tops) and 2) differentiation in the points awarded for a win based on the ranking of the player that was beaten (in other words give a player more points for beating sharapova than for beating heather watson... and, conversely, when a player ranked higher loses to smb ranked much lower, there should be some negative impact on their points as well...)

not to mention serena completely dominating the sport right now, everybody agreeing she dominates the sport (has done it most of the year, with the exception of the french open) and she is NUMBER FOUR (?!) in the rankings?? now you tell me the ranking system is correct...

wtf! 3 'safe' bets Ivanovic, Makarova, Jankovic all down the toilet

how on earth was jankovic a safe bet?? :)

she has improved of late

That's because Serena doesn't care about the tour and tournaments. In lots of years her season is basically over after the US Open. This year she caught the flu just before Beijing. She'd so love to play it and support the tour and it's tournaments, but she just often gets so very unlucky with illness or injury in September and August.

Coincidentally, Serena might be one of the players who take most advantage of the 12 months ranking and the big points at the majors. She simply knows she doesn't have to work her ass off and play every tournament. Due to the 12 months she knows that she usually has her big Wimbledon, Miami and US Open points, so she takes her very extended rests and doesn't play more than the bare minimum of tournaments. That can then also work to her advantage. Lesser risk of injuring, tiring yourself out or simply not coming into tournaments with lots of niggles in a year long grind of tournaments.

If all players, especially top ones who just like Serena don't necessarily need the money from each tournament they play, would think and schedule like Serena does, then good night WTA.

About getting bonus points for beating better players: here's a discussion about the pros and cons of the quality point system that the WTA used to have.

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=417591

DStyle also once raised the interesting point that he's questioning if Serena is even physically capable to really play a Friday/Saturday/Sunday or even a Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday schedule like lots of normal tournaments require you to. At least in tournaments with a tougher field (like e.g Beijing or Tokyo have)

Oct 3, 2012 -- 9:27AM, edy wrote:

That's because Serena doesn't care about the tour and tournaments. In lots of years her season is basically over after the US Open. This year she caught the flu just before Beijing. She'd so love to play it and support the tour and it's tournaments, but she just often gets so very unlucky with illness or injury in September and August.Coincidentally, Serena might be one of the players who take most advantage of the 12 months ranking and the big points at the majors. She simply knows she doesn't have to work her ass off and play every tournament. Due to the 12 months she knows that she usually has her big Wimbledon, Miami and US Open points, so she takes her very extended rests and doesn't play more than the bare minimum of tournaments. That can then also work to her advantage. Lesser risk of injuring, tiring yourself out or simply not coming into tournaments with lots of niggles in a year long grind of tournaments.If all players, especially top ones who just like Serena don't necessarily need the money from each tournament they play, would think and schedule like Serena does, then good night WTA.About getting bonus points for beating better players: here's a discussion about the pros and cons of the quality point system that the WTA used to have.http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=417591

hmmm... well, serena's best results this year have come both at majors (wimbledon and US open) and at premier events, right? Madrid and Charleston come to mind... oh, yeah, and stanford and the olympics too, right? as for the 12-months system working in her favour... I will disagree, because, had it been 6 months, she would be world number 1 right now. I'm a huge fan of the quality points system (thanks for the link)... didn't know it was called that and don't remember when it was in place (guess I wasn't paying that close attention to tennis in those days), but it should be brought back, yes, to the detriment of lower-ranked tourneys... I don't want the top 10 playing at silly tournaments and so often, anyway, I want them only at max 15-20 tournaments a year...

at the end of the day, the big question i have is: if one were to look at the rankings right now, do they reflect the reality of the sport? Not so much... I mean, yeah, Azza,Pova, and Serena are top players, ARad and Kerber and Petra are in the "second" tier (of the top players, I mean)... but Serena should be number 1 and she won't be, even if she wins the australian open (unless azza crashes and burns early on)

Right now she'd probably be no1 with a shorter ranking time, but at the Australian Open she'd only really have the points from the US Open, Stanford and maybe Sydney which she doesn't take seriously most of the time while others will have points from the US Open, US Open series, Tokyo, Beijing, Moscow and some AO warmup. She'd probably be ranked even lower than she is now (provided she would still schedule the same)

Well, maybe not lower because the US Open points are just so fat, but I doubt she'd be ranked no.1

depends if you count in wimbledon (straddling june/july) or not... even if you don't, she would still be 1st or 2nd, thanks to the olympics points... and also thanks to the fact that no other player has shown much consistency post US Open...

and for sure a win at the AO would guarantee her world 1 ranking (well deserved ranking, she is clearly better than anybody out there ATM)... which, with this system, is not the case... if azza doesn't crash in the first three rounds, which she probably will not

supporting edy here, a #1 should be on courts more than 4 months a year and panicking when facing an out of competition drug test

i actually don't disagree with you both on that point... but it's not fair what you are saying, as serena was on court more than 4 months this year... as for the drug alegations... really? what the hell do you base them on?? not everybody is a nadal these days (oops, I did it again)

and ps Azarenka has played only 4 (FOUR) more tournaments than Serena this year...

... and retired from 3 (Serena retired from 2)

I can't remember who and where provided the link of that failed Serena locking herself in the bathroom or the likes when controllers were at her house

wow... THIS is what you are referring to? http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/serena_williams_locks_herself_mix_e33F...

bbbb6666, as always, I can count on you (just like on your idiotic thread) to provide a valuable contribution to this forum.