IS IT EFFING POSSIBLE TO HAVE MORE BAD LUCK THAN THIS!

it can happen to have bad luck at times... everybody hits 3 losers in a row... fact is that those 3 choices were awful imo... GL for next ones....

or should that be .. feel free to hurl AT WILL, full cans of beer in my general direction

this is more than bad luck, mate .. the devil himself, is hunting me down

I quit church at 13, that's gotta be it

t'is a sad day indeed, when a guy who knows nothing about tennis, can't go out and make a few cheeky bucks on the tennis... used to be, the less you knew, the more you won

"used to be, the less you knew, the more you won"


Oh My God.....

Jul 19, 2012 -- 8:26AM, rickysomas1 wrote:

it can happen to have bad luck at times... everybody hits 3 losers in a row... fact is that those 3 choices were awful imo... GL for next ones....

well, it's worked a treat, till today .. Ricky, you must have balls of granite to bet against those odds ..  3 bets in a row at 1.2's pm!  that's March Madness in July...

it's not about having balls of grnite opposing them.......


Mathieu can be dangerous for everyone on his day apart from top 5/top 10 players.... it surely depends on surface and tournament too....Wawrinka is not that solid, he often has bad days....


Russell Anderson you just got it wrong... here is their H2H
http://www.matchstat.com/Compare/453/7459/8925

about Wickmayer, well.... that's WTA and it's less predictable imo than ATP... but Wick retired... maybe she was not fit...IU don't know.. aretirement can happen anywhere anytime....

it's all about voiding tricky matches... you have to know your stuff to do it right.... there's no easy money on this Earth apart from national lotteries and so on....

well, I know I don't know my stuff, and as for national lotteries, let's just say I was never known for my patience ... tnx for the h2h link, but just thought that would have already been factored in... I'm the laziest guy on betfair, and have always relied on the  perspective of the mug punter en mass, to turn a dollar .. I never watch the matches, and enjoy anguishing over the scoreboard all through the night, whilst I'm supposed to be sleeping, or cuddling the missus

or could it be that one needs a phd in tennis stats, to (perish the thought) even have the audacity to make comments here

well good luck but with that prospective you won't go far.... work hard and you'll have good result.. no work no results....

work hard and you'll have good result. ... mmm, now where have I heard that before ... anyway cheers mate, I'll let you get back to your game plan

Good Luck

there's no tennis for the next 40 mins, no involved match for me since Giraldo's one... if u wanna talk no problem at all...

tnx,got that .. well, I only know of upcoming matches when the green light comes on, and being a stubborn as S H I T guy, I like to be responsible for losing my own money ... still need to cool off before placing another bet, but needless to say, it's back to the drawing board, and treading with caution

It is a matter of luck sometimes, I lost almost my whole bank yesterday, then I put money on haas and at that point my bal was 1 euro lol. After the match I was 10% more than my bank. If you saw that match you would realize how unpredictable it was

chasing has nothing to do with betting or gambling....

Jul 19, 2012 -- 9:49AM, rickysomas1 wrote:

chasing has nothing to do with betting or gambling....

that's about as true as clinton saying bj's are not sexual

chasing is the best way to the poor house.... ask top investors if u don't trust my opinion.... or google it.... read and think before talking....

it is a cliche. True most times though

http://www.google.it/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=c...

I've google chasing losses....

I have heard of many people lose money by chasing but then no one would like to write they won money by chasing which is regarded as a bad strategy

There were times when I reached 20-30% of my bank when I put whole of it on roger in rog vs nole wimby semis or tipsarevic last week at 2.6 or haas yesterday. Does not necessarily mean it will be successful always. but it cannot be bad every time

Jul 19, 2012 -- 9:57AM, rickysomas1 wrote:

chasing is the best way to the poor house.... ask top investors if u don't trust my opinion.... or google it.... read and think before talking....

lol you talk as if you really think you are an expert!

I know chasing is not a good strategy but it is still betting and gambling. It just means that you are betting when not thinking completely straight after a loss.

How do you chase if you do not place a bet or gamble??

I don't talk like I'm an expert... I'm here since 8 years... I know something tbh....

chasing is wrong and has nothing to do with serious betting and gambling... if you're addicted or something or you're not here to take this seriously then chase as long as you want....

How do you chase if you do not place a bet or gamble??
I don't chase...

I have been reading rickys posts for a while and am completely sure he knows something. In hindsight, I think I should not have chased but in an evens match (assuming market is correct) chasing won`t have much of a negative effect

Yes you do, trying to advise people on here then telling me to read and think before talking! i've been here for more than 8 years so what?

you don't seem to understand. i'm not saying chasing is right. I'm saying if people chase, they are placing a bet. Yes or No?

tsango, would you be offended if I ask your first language is not english?

LOL Tsango frawesome answered for me....

It was not me not understanding... maybe it was more you not explaining it well... nevermind.... i u chase u surely place a bet on something, yes....

frawesome thank you for thekind words... Ichasing it great as long as it covers losses.... but what if Haas retired after loosing forst set for example? it can happen... rarely but it's possible...

How do you chase if you do not place a bet or gamble??

sorry but this question is well far away from saying: to chase you have to place a bet....

Nice dig at me frawesome but yes, english is my first language. Are you trying to say you write better than me lol?

Jul 19, 2012 -- 10:18AM, rickysomas1 wrote:

How do you chase if you do not place a bet or gamble??sorry but this question is well far away from saying: to chase you have to place a bet....

Really??

How else can you read it? They both say the same thing.

yes I got it right only now.... LOL

they are the same...

I didnt intend it as a dig. I just thought there was a difference between what you wanted to communicate and what you had actually. I could not probably write better than you as english is not my first language

Jul 19, 2012 -- 10:21AM, frawesome wrote:

I didnt intend it as a dig. I just thought there was a difference between what you wanted to communicate and what you had actually. I could not probably write better than you as english is not my first language

So what did you think I was trying to communicate?

so at the end here we are:
1) chasing is wrong
2) to chase you have to bet
3) if you're chasing you're not betting surely ( like pros for example )
4) if you chase luck is too important in your betting
5) if you chase you're probably going to the poor house sooner or  later
6) tsango is from UK... 

3) correction if you chase you're not betting seriously.... not surely....

Jul 19, 2012 -- 10:21AM, rickysomas1 wrote:

yes I got it right only now.... LOLthey are the same...

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not ...

nono I'm serious mate.... I read it in another way ( don't know which one honeslty, I'm not able to find it out anymore ) 

agree with all but 1. chasing is wrong more times than it is right.. off to the granollers thread

chasing is wrong cause once you are wrong your bank is done.... you are pout of money, and you're out of business....

6) Even though English is my first language doesn't necessarily mean I'm from the UK although I could be ... ;)

LOL tsango....

6) Tsango's first language is english

is it ok now?

was on Anderson too... think 1.25 it's better to stop 1.25 shot

perfect

A good example of chasing is the yang thread. Remember how he used to stake 300€-400€ at the start when he was still doing ok. Now that he is losing he is staking 1000€+ every bet

exactly Rumbling.... sad but true

got called away guys, and apologies, bec I thought I had logged out ...  anyway, been reading about your experiences and I thank you for the replies

What do you think about Giraldo today ?

well you got balls too frawesome, didn't see the match but did notice Haas was not favored to win ...mind you, i'm 90% a pre match better, if I screw up I try to make amends on another match

Giraldo? ... yes just looked at his odds, and would say "why not" .. but if I bet 3 times straight at those odds and then subsequently lost everything, then yeah I'd be questioning that big  ahh sole upstairs ... HOWEVER, that's exactly what happened to me in my last 3 bets

Tennis players have screwed me so often recently too, seems to be I'm always on the one tanking so often recent matches. Doesn't matter if I'm on a favourite or outsider...you rely on individuals, and they are so difficult to predict.

true stu, never realised how hard it was to predict a match until I started betting (I'm an old fart, though)... and the number of matches that go down to the wire is quite astounding ... trouble is, I cannot get interested in ANY SPORT unless there's a bit of cash on the line

sorry ex2dx i must have soaked up all the luck recently, almost lost a bet yesterday, but BATE managed to score 2 after the 87th minute to turn my bet into a winner!

Also if you find you are losing too many bets try waiting a bit longer before getting involved...

yes thought of that too, gimp ... but how would that change things? ... betting on a new match at 1.2, straight after a loss, or even one month after a loss, "should" yield the same result, right?

if you're not interested in sports I doubt you'll ever do it with passion and tons of hard work... you'd better look for something else imo...

Did Anderson lose?

soa, that was funny . does the pope sh it in the woods?

that's too sobering a notion to contemplate, ricky ... yet to be convinced that knowledge converts to dollars in this racket ... love to know how many fortunes the egg spurts have lost over the years too, just quietly

knowledge about betting, not about events, is more pivotal to most peoples success.  I wouldn't bother guessing who will win a match too often as the odds aren't really in your favour.  Edges are easy to find in free markets when you can enter and leave at will.  try writing down every losing bet with reasons how it lost and signs that you should have avoided/reduced liability/switched positions and see if you can use these reasons to avoid such bets in the future.  that will help your strikerate if nothing else.

I think nobody mentioned money management, so I'm adding it to the list.  Overstaking /and chasing, I can hear you rickysomas1 / is the cancer of any betting bank.

in 6 months I'd managed quadruple my "investment" (love that term), then almost lose the lot about 3 times. Now thanks to that anderson jerk and his ilk, am sitting at 75% down from my peak ... gimp, my excuse for not switching positions, is that (a), I have to phone in during play, and (b), for me, it would be throwing good money after bad, too quickly.  .. Anyway, am really FU K KED OFF that the bad luck I have experienced could only possibly happen as about as infrequently as pluto and saturn, lining up with your an us ... tnx guys

correct nevada, and thank you for reminding me ok seriously going for the record now, of a losing streak of (5) mens favs on the trot... am in the queue now, for 2's on Dimitri as we speak .. if I'm gonna lose, I demand respectable odds, you know, kinda like when ur dating a camel, you want a good looking one, so you get up early, right? .. and for the record, am beyond the point of giving a flying fig, since delerium set in after that **** K K ING jerk, anderson debacle

oops, look at all those asterisks .. must have sworn in error ... sorry believers

I think the first rule in tennis (and this comes with experience) is that on EVERY surface, there are a handful of top 100 or top 200 journeyman/has-beens that can take out ANYONE in a mickey mouse tournament who is not motivated/slightly injured/going through jetlag so i generally avoid their matches when they face the top few seeds in early rounds because you never really know the favourite's mental state. To top it off, odds are always stupid at sub 1.2s. Examples would be players like mahut on grass, russell on US hard court, a couple of italians/spanish on clay. These players have only that small window of a few weeks/months each year to play an ATP tournament at home/on their fav surface so their motivation is at 100% or more, both to get some ranking points or prize money. The rest of the time, they are in challenger tour, etc. On the other hand, strong fav might have just flown in from the other side of the world and dragged himself on court just to satisfy the organizers. The time to really lump on favs prematch if u must is definitely grand slams, where it matters and players fly in to practise days/weeks before and fully prepared, not when they just flew in last night and suffering from jet lags.

Well, we all learn slowly and tennis is definitely not a case of the lesser u know the more u win. Every aspect, whether backing short odds long odds, trading, comes with heaps of experience as many on here will tell u. Hours and hours of watching boring matches. After a while, u get a feel of who to avoid, which kind of matchups to avoid, and also at which point to enter a market. Good luck!

chinese wisdom at it's brilliant best my friend .. I'm not privy to the nuances of the players or conditions, even got f ox sports for a month but seldom used it,then allowed it to lapse ... also bored watching computer links, and prefer eff you see kay ing around on my computer elsewhere sometimes, during the matches ... Can't say I've had a bad run so far, but how does one compare one's own performance? does everyone lose their bank, given the right time frame? Maybe I'm whinging too much, but was hoping to turn a paltry start up bank into a tidy sum, worthy of tax scrutinisation .. anyway, the quest to outsmart the sweaty masses continues ... mmmm, better take a tub, myself

really wise words by owning

I agree

problem is, I'm not as credentialed

very well said owning. agree 100%

It happens to us all. I've just had the start of a horse race, a break in tennis, and a goal all go against me.

And now a second break of serve.

thanks again darlo/fella's ... anyway, done with "big" bets for a while, and won't be replenishing my bank just yet either .. Will use the remaining pittance to screw around with, on small bets only ... and on a lighter note, just bought a bottle of grant's today, as opposed to my usual chivas, and the good news is that to me, they taste the same!   good luck chaps