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Dont follow tennis much but he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable individual.
The frencg geezer he just beat looks a seems a nice fella?
The frencg geezer he just beat looks a seems a nice fella?
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I suggest you populate the other (patriotic) sports forums on here with your wisdom Mullah, and give them the benefit of your 'amazing personality' while you are at it. When you can post anything worth reading that justifies this 'personality' of yours let me know and I'll be sure to reply...
You don't think having his schoolmates slaughtered by a maniac might have had some effect, Mullah troll?
That's crap Mullah. Huge numbers of people in every country are patriotic. It doesn't mean they have personality issues. People like to belong to groups and identify themselves with common interests. Your family and close friends are obviously the most important group, but outside that, identifying yourself with the other people in your country, and wanting the best deal for your countryfolk doesn't make you some sort of defective. (And supporting the 'national side' is one part of that identification.)
Nationalism can be dangerous when it goes too far. But feeling disconnected from those around you is far far more likely to result in you having personality issues!
Nationalism can be dangerous when it goes too far. But feeling disconnected from those around you is far far more likely to result in you having personality issues!
Jul 6, 2012 -- 8:38PM, dave1357 wrote:
You don't think having his schoolmates slaughtered by a maniac might have had some effect, Mullah troll?
a good point which I'm surprised wasn't brought up already
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anyone wonder why Murray isn't all that exciting in interviews when he gets this bullshit
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anyone wonder why Murray isn't all that exciting in interviews when he gets this bullshit
Was he in that Dublane school that day?
And if he was wouldnt that make you want to enjoy everyday?
Especially playing tennis against other great players and earning millions whilst doing it.
And if he was wouldnt that make you want to enjoy everyday?
Especially playing tennis against other great players and earning millions whilst doing it.
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That's crap Mullah. Huge numbers of people in every country are patriotic. It doesn't mean they have personality issues. People like to belong to groups and identify themselves with common interests. Your family and close friends are obviously the most important group, but outside that, identifying yourself with the other people in your country, and wanting the best deal for your countryfolk doesn't make you some sort of defective. (And supporting the 'national side' is one part of that identification.)
Nationalism can be dangerous when it goes too far. But feeling disconnected from those around you is far far more likely to result in you having personality issues!
Very well said. Absolutely spot on
Thank you
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That's crap Mullah. Huge numbers of people in every country are patriotic. It doesn't mean they have personality issues. People like to belong to groups and identify themselves with common interests. Your family and close friends are obviously the most important group, but outside that, identifying yourself with the other people in your country, and wanting the best deal for your countryfolk doesn't make you some sort of defective. (And supporting the 'national side' is one part of that identification.)
Nationalism can be dangerous when it goes too far. But feeling disconnected from those around you is far far more likely to result in you having personality issues!
Very well said. Absolutely spot on
Thank you
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This presser is getting more and more surreal. Journo: "Do you think Fred Perry will benedict (sic) your win?" Murray: "Fred Perry's dead."
This presser is getting more and more surreal. Journo: "Do you think Fred Perry will benedict (sic) your win?" Murray: "Fred Perry's dead."
Jul 6, 2012 -- 8:43PM, MullahOmar wrote:
Was he in that Dublane school that day?And if he was wouldnt that make you want to enjoy everyday?Especially playing tennis against other great players and earning millions whilst doing it.
so you don't think it's understandable that the past may have a big impact on his personality 
No one has come close to the popularity of his opponent Federer.....A class act in professionalism and ability I do hope that he breaks yet further records with a win on Sunday....Patriotism is lost when you have such a generally great player and person as Roger Federer. Although I expect the ground to favor Murray it will not be an all out onslaught of support.... except for the odd die hard Scot/Brit I think the vast majority of people would like to see Federer win
Mullah yes, he was in school that day. I'm pretty certain I saw an interview where he talked about how he and his classmates were cowering under their desks while it was going on.
Jul 6, 2012 -- 8:43PM, MullahOmar wrote:
Was he in that Dublane school that day?And if he was wouldnt that make you want to enjoy everyday?Especially playing tennis against other great players and earning millions whilst doing it.
yes he was and how the fck would you know what someone would feel after that trauma, you fckin cretinous moron
Just have to differ Cooee.
The need to `belong', be in `gangs', be `patriotic'. Just
doesnt sit easy with me mate. Most people with problem personalities
who I have met have fallen into those groups. Just dont get it.
I follow passionately the football team my dad took me to as a kid.
Otherwise if I watch england at anything I ma looking to have a bet and just watch some decent sport.
The need to `belong', be in `gangs', be `patriotic'. Just
doesnt sit easy with me mate. Most people with problem personalities
who I have met have fallen into those groups. Just dont get it.
I follow passionately the football team my dad took me to as a kid.
Otherwise if I watch england at anything I ma looking to have a bet and just watch some decent sport.
Lot of truth to that Dado. Fed's very popular with the Wimbers crowd. They'll support Murray most of all, but they'll give warm applause when Fed makes a superb shot, and huge applause if he wins the match.
Mullah, most people in a country are fairly patriotic at heart. Are you saying most people have personality issues, and that those personality issues stem from their being patriotic??
Were you born in the British islands yourself?
Were you born in the British islands yourself?
High and mighty Dave! You have issues mate, you would
never say that to my face.
Never claimed I would know how `he would feel'.
Anyway very interesting fact about his past.
never say that to my face.
Never claimed I would know how `he would feel'.
Anyway very interesting fact about his past.
look pal you are a fckin troll, you have taken an offensive user name, you start a contentious thread, you are the one with issues
Federer's style of play wins him a lot of fans too, so desirable to watch. I really would like to ask him if he had to do it again would he try and have a two handed backhand....I got to stick with supporting the one handed backhands it's the way I play and just a pleasure to watch but is it a disadvantage in today's game?
Traumatic events like that affect different people in different ways. Some might take comfort from having survived it. Others might go on to be haunted by it, even if only sub-consciously.
There're plenty of strong Serbian players around now. Might the war they were brought up in have affected their mindsets and made some of them tougher? Possibly.
There're plenty of strong Serbian players around now. Might the war they were brought up in have affected their mindsets and made some of them tougher? Possibly.
Born and bred in UK, all family from UK.
Never felt an ounce of patriotism.
Feel quite proud of the area where I was brought up.
Actually think most people have some mild patriotism which means they say they support their national team etc. That is ok.
But after religion I think patriotism is the most dangerous thing to the planet out there. Where do you draw the line? Look at what happened to millions of germans in the first half of this century.
In thye 60' to very recently you saw very little german patriotism and that was a very good thing.
The stuff recently about armed forces day and the support for `our' armed forces is now boardering on US lines and is very dangerous imo.
Never felt an ounce of patriotism.
Feel quite proud of the area where I was brought up.
Actually think most people have some mild patriotism which means they say they support their national team etc. That is ok.
But after religion I think patriotism is the most dangerous thing to the planet out there. Where do you draw the line? Look at what happened to millions of germans in the first half of this century.
In thye 60' to very recently you saw very little german patriotism and that was a very good thing.
The stuff recently about armed forces day and the support for `our' armed forces is now boardering on US lines and is very dangerous imo.
Dave1357 - the username probably sums up your personality unfortunately.
Have you ever contributed anything interesting to any debate, do you have any real opinions or anything insightful to offer?
Have you ever contributed anything interesting to any debate, do you have any real opinions or anything insightful to offer?
I bet if Murray joined the forum he would use the username Andy1987.
Such a character.
Such a character.
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An alliance to your country is only a larger-scale version of an alliance to your local area. I don't see the difference really.
Humans started off as cavemen, clobbering their neighbours every day in order to get to food before anyone else. Then family units started working with other family units, and some of that bloodshed disappeared. Then larger local units started working with other local units, sharing resources, allowing individuals to specialise in certain jobs, all for the good of the 'community'. Eventually those communities joined up and became countries. Having 'countries' is only really a larger scale version of the deployment of resources and the sharing of expertise. And a certain amount of patriotism is necessary for that large community to function more or less as one. (Personally, I'd prefer it if we were split into smaller groups, but there'd still be a need for 'local patriotism'.)
Nationalism can certainly go too far, but so can any sort of 'group'. Groups of youths (if united by the shared interests of wanting to loot shops and steal goods, for instance) can certainly cause a lot of trouble to a local community.
Humans started off as cavemen, clobbering their neighbours every day in order to get to food before anyone else. Then family units started working with other family units, and some of that bloodshed disappeared. Then larger local units started working with other local units, sharing resources, allowing individuals to specialise in certain jobs, all for the good of the 'community'. Eventually those communities joined up and became countries. Having 'countries' is only really a larger scale version of the deployment of resources and the sharing of expertise. And a certain amount of patriotism is necessary for that large community to function more or less as one. (Personally, I'd prefer it if we were split into smaller groups, but there'd still be a need for 'local patriotism'.)
Nationalism can certainly go too far, but so can any sort of 'group'. Groups of youths (if united by the shared interests of wanting to loot shops and steal goods, for instance) can certainly cause a lot of trouble to a local community.
You probably are the perfect patriot mate.
You swear at people without knowing them, snear and accuse without any knowledge. Try and block and delete things.
You loathe those with different opinions to yours and your friends/family/groups.
You are that little englander with the flag drapped over your shoulder.
You swear at people without knowing them, snear and accuse without any knowledge. Try and block and delete things.
You loathe those with different opinions to yours and your friends/family/groups.
You are that little englander with the flag drapped over your shoulder.
MullahOmar just sounds full of pure jealousy towards what Andy Murray has achieved.
Staggered that this thread has got 90 posts and 500+ views really
You make good points Cooee.
The big danger is when large groups ie. countries, generate nationalistic ferver.
To me it is only natural to have pride and feeling for things you
are close to. Ie. family, local community, local city/sporting teams.
I just dont understand why anyone feels attachment/belonging to sporting teams or armies with no proper connection to you.
The big danger is when large groups ie. countries, generate nationalistic ferver.
To me it is only natural to have pride and feeling for things you
are close to. Ie. family, local community, local city/sporting teams.
I just dont understand why anyone feels attachment/belonging to sporting teams or armies with no proper connection to you.
Jul 6, 2012 -- 9:24PM, Zach_Johnson wrote:
Staggered that this thread has got 90 posts and 500+ views really
a lot of Mullah fans ready to pitch in but he obviously doesn't need any help
continue, please
You dont get to be a Mullah without having to take on dozens of dave1397's single handedly.
i pissed of with ppl saying our guy is in the final ? unless your scotish he is not and admits he does not like the english so im cheering rodger on all the way
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1 - You can't spell
2 - You only believe things you read in the tabloids
3 - You are from Blackpool, the sewer of the UK
Three strikes and you're out
1 - You can't spell
2 - You only believe things you read in the tabloids
3 - You are from Blackpool, the sewer of the UK
Three strikes and you're out
He never said he doesnt like the English.
Thats old news.
Thats old news.
Well the armies do have a sort of connection to people in a country. It's the army that defends the 'borders' of your country. And yes, you can argue that many of those in our forces are currently defending things that most definitely aren't our borders, but that's another debate.. The fact is that defending our outer borders is the essential reason for the army. If we were broken up into smaller regions, we'd still need to employ people to defend the borders of our region, as otherwise there'd almost certainly be those in neighbouring regions who tried to extend their own territory at our expense.
The problem is, the larger the region, the more divorced the typical person becomes from those doing the border defending. If we were split into tiny areas, most of us would take some personal responsibility for fighting off marauders. Since we're part of a large 'country', very few of us have anything whatsoever to do with defense. And that's partly why we have so much pomp and patriotic ceremony attached to the army.
The point of all these ceremonies is to remind us that the army fights in order to protect us from outside forces. To remind us that we do have a connection with them, and that we do rely on them. That's what a lot of national pride is about. It's there to connect us to those aspects of our community that we may otherwise feel disconnected from.
Sporting pride (and, to a lesser extent, artistic pride) is part of the same thing. It's promoted to make us feel a kinship with our 'country' and with all of the miscellaneous (and often invisible to us) elements that go into constructing a large community and making it operate as one cohesive unit.
The problem is, the larger the region, the more divorced the typical person becomes from those doing the border defending. If we were split into tiny areas, most of us would take some personal responsibility for fighting off marauders. Since we're part of a large 'country', very few of us have anything whatsoever to do with defense. And that's partly why we have so much pomp and patriotic ceremony attached to the army.
The point of all these ceremonies is to remind us that the army fights in order to protect us from outside forces. To remind us that we do have a connection with them, and that we do rely on them. That's what a lot of national pride is about. It's there to connect us to those aspects of our community that we may otherwise feel disconnected from.
Sporting pride (and, to a lesser extent, artistic pride) is part of the same thing. It's promoted to make us feel a kinship with our 'country' and with all of the miscellaneous (and often invisible to us) elements that go into constructing a large community and making it operate as one cohesive unit.
By the way, I'm not totally convinced that big nation states is the right way to go about things. But if you are going to have sizeable countries, then it does seem that national pride is an important ingredient of the glue that holds everything together. Just as long as you don't let that nationalistic pride override morality..
And to think this all stems from a question over whether Murray is a nice fella! 
cooee
u can throw common language and culture of particular country to that, thats all create identity
u can throw common language and culture of particular country to that, thats all create identity
Yeah, sorry Zach. I am a blabby little git when I get going...
But Cooee most of us have very little to do with anything or anybody related to making us a more cohesive country. So why all the pomp and ceremonial gump with the military.
And why has that been increased many fold in the last few years?
Surely nothing to do with no one touching UK soverienty for decades?
The army is mostly involved in foreign conflicts where large numbers of local innocent civilians are killed and dozens of friendly fire instances occur.
All just a total load of bolloxxx.
And why has that been increased many fold in the last few years?
Surely nothing to do with no one touching UK soverienty for decades?
The army is mostly involved in foreign conflicts where large numbers of local innocent civilians are killed and dozens of friendly fire instances occur.
All just a total load of bolloxxx.
Yeah ;{p, that's all part of it as well. Take the Ancient Greek city states. Athens tried to unify itself mainly through culture. Sparta tried to unify itself through the military. Every Spartan lived to keep the army going. Absolutely everything that almost any Spartan did was done for the 'good' of the defense of the realm. Even singing in Sparta was all geared around communal army songs to keep the spirits up.
I don't see anything wrong with trying to strike a balance. Members of a country need to be reminded that the army is there to protect them - although they obviously don't have to go along with everything the army is being commanded to do in their name! Without the reminders, though, it's all too easy to take the armed forces for granted.
But yeah, cultural, artistic, sporting pride etc. should all be part of the mix too.
I don't see anything wrong with trying to strike a balance. Members of a country need to be reminded that the army is there to protect them - although they obviously don't have to go along with everything the army is being commanded to do in their name! Without the reminders, though, it's all too easy to take the armed forces for granted.
But yeah, cultural, artistic, sporting pride etc. should all be part of the mix too.
Jul 6, 2012 -- 9:49PM, Cooee wrote:
Yeah, sorry Zach. I am a blabby little git when I get going...
tell me about it, man.
reading this thread i feel like a walled-in palestinian.
i'm drunk though, and might read between the lines
And no common language and culture has little to do with creating a countries identity.
Don't get why people don't like Murray and give him so much abuse on here. Strange behaviour coming from mostly Brit fans.
Would Murray be the most unpopular player ever to win Wimbledon?
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Dont follow tennis much but he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable individual.
The frencg geezer he just beat looks a seems a nice fella?
Would Murray be the most unpopular player ever to win Wimbledon?
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Dont follow tennis much but he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable individual.
[b]The frencg geezer he just beat looks a seems a nice fella?
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That sentence is a statement. It does not require a question mark. If it's a question, rephrase accordingly.
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Dont follow tennis much but he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable individual.
The frencg geezer he just beat looks a seems a nice fella?
Would Murray be the most unpopular player ever to win Wimbledon?
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Dont follow tennis much but he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable individual.
[b]The frencg geezer he just beat looks a seems a nice fella?
...........................................................................
That sentence is a statement. It does not require a question mark. If it's a question, rephrase accordingly.
a) he pretends to be injured when he is not to get an unsporting advantage
b) he stated that he is Scottish, not British.
c) he has a bad attitude on court
d) when he is winning he tries to play exhibition shots which is unsporting to his opponent.
b) he stated that he is Scottish, not British.
c) he has a bad attitude on court
d) when he is winning he tries to play exhibition shots which is unsporting to his opponent.
and the media hype him up that a lot of people just want him to lose so that the media don't go overboard.
and he has had disputes with a lot of players, which can't be coincidental.
What players do he have disputes with?
Where has he said he is Scottish and not British?
Where has he said he is Scottish and not British?
It's quite remarkable that people are questioning whether Murray will be the most unpopular player to ever win Wimbledon when Serena Williams could win the title again 24 hours previous.
The way she behaved at the 2011 US Open against Stosur and the 2009 US Open against Clijsters are far and away worse than anything Murray has EVER done, yet she's the apparent darling of women's tennis who nobody seems to want to say a bad word against.
Just call it as I see it....
The way she behaved at the 2011 US Open against Stosur and the 2009 US Open against Clijsters are far and away worse than anything Murray has EVER done, yet she's the apparent darling of women's tennis who nobody seems to want to say a bad word against.
Just call it as I see it....
why do people not like andy murray ? cannot understand it
he seems just a really normal ordinary young man unfazed by his fame.
I find most tennis players obnoxious and arrogant and murray makes a refreshing change
he seems just a really normal ordinary young man unfazed by his fame.
I find most tennis players obnoxious and arrogant and murray makes a refreshing change
I am stating categorically that 'Srichapan or Ancic' is deliberately lying in his second statement (b)
He will not be able to produce any evidence of this statement or produce any source
Bear this in mind when you read anything he posts in future
He will not be able to produce any evidence of this statement or produce any source
Bear this in mind when you read anything he posts in future
He said a couple of years ago that he would support “anyone but England” in an interview... just google it
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That was a joke made in the middle of some ribbing by Henman.
Only genuine idiots that take the tabloid press at face value still quote that
That was a joke made in the middle of some ribbing by Henman.
Only genuine idiots that take the tabloid press at face value still quote that
would not make me think any less of him anyway tbh and I am english
I like the kid and I hope he wins on Sunday
both because he is likeable and from the UK
I like the kid and I hope he wins on Sunday
both because he is likeable and from the UK
Exactly. From what I've seen off court he seems a normal, grounded, pretty intelligent guy who isn't sucked in by some of the razzamatazz and halfwit journalists that surround his game and he also seems to have a very real and very dry sense of humour. On court he has tremendous courage and desire to win. He can be a little petulant but he isn't anywhere near some of the games past nutters when it comes to toys out of pram.
Only in England could we wait for over 70 years for a male player this good and when he finally arrives people start asking, "ah but does he see old ladies across the road?"
Only in England could we wait for over 70 years for a male player this good and when he finally arrives people start asking, "ah but does he see old ladies across the road?"
"It's a shame winners bring out haters in this country."
No. Not at all. I don't hate Murray, I just can't get excited by him at all though I do respect anyone in this country who can make it to the top of their sport particularly tennis. But there's plenty more winners in this country which bring out some sense of love and pride in, in fact their dozens of them compared to the exceptions like Murray.
No. Not at all. I don't hate Murray, I just can't get excited by him at all though I do respect anyone in this country who can make it to the top of their sport particularly tennis. But there's plenty more winners in this country which bring out some sense of love and pride in, in fact their dozens of them compared to the exceptions like Murray.
absolutely right ^^^^^
The seething haters have got it so, so wrong. Sound guy, very dry wit, love that he's not sucked in by some of the razzamatazz and halfwit journalists that surround his game
Very well put. wolfatthedoor also calls it right.
The seething haters have got it so, so wrong. Sound guy, very dry wit, love that he's not sucked in by some of the razzamatazz and halfwit journalists that surround his game
Very well put. wolfatthedoor also calls it right.
Only in England could we wait for over 70 years for a male player this good and when he finally arrives people start asking, "ah but does he see old ladies across the road?"
nobody said he was the devil, i'm sure he would help his mom cross the road if she needed him to, but i'm also sure he would make a face about it
nobody said he was the devil, i'm sure he would help his mom cross the road if she needed him to, but i'm also sure he would make a face about it
Jul 6, 2012 -- 11:15PM, hashasha wrote:
Only in England could we wait for over 70 years for a male player this good and when he finally arrives people start asking, "ah but does he see old ladies across the road?" nobody said he was the devil, i'm sure he would help his mom cross the road if she needed him to, but i'm also sure he would make a face about it
Again no; not for me. We've waited forever for a Tour de France winner, and I love both Bradley Wiggins and Mark Cavendish. It's not about hating our sports stars for me, it's about finding something to like about them.
Best of luck to Murray on Sunday but I won't be upset if he loses.
Jul 6, 2012 -- 10:51PM, hollywood85 wrote:
He said a couple of years ago that he would support “anyone but England” in an interview... just google it
ffs not this 
Where is the idea that he is unpopular coming from? Murray is actually very popular with most of the other players. David Ferrer is one of the most likeable men on the tour, and he is very friendly with Murray. Andy is very respectful towards his opponents in his interviews and gives them credit where it is due. When he shakes his opponents hand at the end of a match, there is usually mutual appreciation and a few sporting words exchanged. He is not unpopular at all. Anyway, this is a tennis tournament, not a popularity contest!
well, darlo,
i'm no brit, and not that into sports but i'm sure bradley and mark are just terrific bi..cyc..lists..?
thanks for quoting me though and i too won't be upset if he loses. on fed in the outright and standing tall.
i'm no brit, and not that into sports but i'm sure bradley and mark are just terrific bi..cyc..lists..?
thanks for quoting me though and i too won't be upset if he loses. on fed in the outright and standing tall.
Indeed it's not a popularity contest thaz, that's why I have the utmost respect for Murray and will do even more if he wins on Sunday. That doesn't mean I want him to win just for the sake of national pride. Fed is a legend, a true great, and one of the most likeable, gracious winners. It's not simply about who is Swiss and who is British.
Fed is a legend, a true great, and one of the most likeable, gracious winners. It's not simply about who is Swiss and who is British.
You have got to be kidding? I would like to refer you to Matthew Norman's brilliant, on-the-money summation of Federer in his book:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MvWqXntR7NwC&pg=PT11&lpg=PT11&dq=matthew+norman+on+federer&source=bl&ots=KURKFQ1jB8&sig=kFMmKPpZNkEAcgnZJBKEJ-c8l7w&hl=en&sa=X&ei=e2r3T_bMEqPA0QWxup3ABw&ved=0CFcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=matthew%20norman%20on%20federer&f=false
You have got to be kidding? I would like to refer you to Matthew Norman's brilliant, on-the-money summation of Federer in his book:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MvWqXntR7NwC&pg=PT11&lpg=PT11&dq=matthew+norman+on+federer&source=bl&ots=KURKFQ1jB8&sig=kFMmKPpZNkEAcgnZJBKEJ-c8l7w&hl=en&sa=X&ei=e2r3T_bMEqPA0QWxup3ABw&ved=0CFcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=matthew%20norman%20on%20federer&f=false
Jul 6, 2012 -- 11:46PM, johnnyrant wrote:
Fed is a legend, a true great, and one of the most likeable, gracious winners. It's not simply about who is Swiss and who is British. You have got to be kidding? I would like to refer you to Matthew Norman's brilliant, on-the-money summation of Federer in his book:http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MvWqXntR7NwC&pg=PT11&lpg=PT11&dq=matthew+norman+on+federer&source=bl&ots=KURKFQ1jB8&sig=kFMmKPpZNkEAcgnZJBKEJ-c8l7w&hl=en&sa=X&ei=e2r3T_bMEqPA0QWxup3ABw&ved=0CFcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=matthew%20norman%20on%20federer&f=false
Very interesting. And while I certainly agree about his interview after beating Roddick I won't be swayed; he's someone I have total respect for on and off court. Sometimes, they say you shouldn't meet your heroes and perhaps this is one of those occasions, where someone scratches below the surface we all see.
johnnyrant
Most of that is irrelevant seeing as the point was about him being a gracious winner. Of course he doesn't take losing well. Show me a man who does and I will show you a loser. So he wears a blazer. I used to see an old boy walking around my home town in a sea captains hat and it added massively to the colour of the town seeing as we were about 60 miles from the sea. Same with Federer and his blazers. It is a throwback to a different age and a statement of his respect for the event and his suit of armour when he arrives for battle.
Most of that is irrelevant seeing as the point was about him being a gracious winner. Of course he doesn't take losing well. Show me a man who does and I will show you a loser. So he wears a blazer. I used to see an old boy walking around my home town in a sea captains hat and it added massively to the colour of the town seeing as we were about 60 miles from the sea. Same with Federer and his blazers. It is a throwback to a different age and a statement of his respect for the event and his suit of armour when he arrives for battle.
>Patriotism is lost when you have such a generally great player and person as Roger Federer.
The only time I've not supported a British player at Wimbledon was 2001 when I supported Goran against Rusedski and Henman. I want Murray to win but wouldn't be upset if Federer won.
The only time I've not supported a British player at Wimbledon was 2001 when I supported Goran against Rusedski and Henman. I want Murray to win but wouldn't be upset if Federer won.
Murray has done nothing to make people like him. He's an arrogant, unapproachable tw@t. I hope Federer beats him easily in 3 sets on Sunday. I couldn't care less that it's been 70million years since a British person won a grand slam, my loyalty is with Federer. Murray is my least favourite tennis player of all time
I'm English AND live in England btw, there are millions of people who share my views.
Tiger Tim for ever
I'm English AND live in England btw, there are millions of people who share my views.
Tiger Tim for ever
From three sources
1 - The Sun (around 2007-2008)
2 - The Star (around 2008)
3 - TalkSport (same era)
There's a huge underclass in the UK that simply digest what these comics tell them.
Added to that are a good few that would rather support a player from the Home Counties that won't get past the second round than a potential worldbeater from anywhere north of Preston.
And they need an excuse for that prejudice, so age old made up stories from the tabloids suit them fine.
1 - The Sun (around 2007-2008)
2 - The Star (around 2008)
3 - TalkSport (same era)
There's a huge underclass in the UK that simply digest what these comics tell them.
Added to that are a good few that would rather support a player from the Home Counties that won't get past the second round than a potential worldbeater from anywhere north of Preston.
And they need an excuse for that prejudice, so age old made up stories from the tabloids suit them fine.
Who gives a **** if he is a Scot, or arrogant over some off the cuff and usually misquoted remark about the English football team, I am English lving in England ( for the xenophobes), and I hope he wins, although Federer is undoubtedly the better player so its a tough ask.
And as for Tiger bloody Tim, as passionate as a wet weekend in Skegness, he seemed embarrassed to even get angry, another middle class twerp who never quite made it, but Mummy and Daddy were ever so proud as well as middle England suburbia.
Come on Murray, just this once, and it will also ensure Federer goes down in British folklore moreso and is remembered as the greatest ever player and not by some idiots as the bloke who beat that miserable scottish git.
Though myself I would find it hard not be smiling like a dogs with 2 **** if I had millions in the bank a lovely girlfriend, flash houses, cars and all for playing a game I loved....
And as for Tiger bloody Tim, as passionate as a wet weekend in Skegness, he seemed embarrassed to even get angry, another middle class twerp who never quite made it, but Mummy and Daddy were ever so proud as well as middle England suburbia.
Come on Murray, just this once, and it will also ensure Federer goes down in British folklore moreso and is remembered as the greatest ever player and not by some idiots as the bloke who beat that miserable scottish git.
Though myself I would find it hard not be smiling like a dogs with 2 **** if I had millions in the bank a lovely girlfriend, flash houses, cars and all for playing a game I loved....
MUSER appears to have had one sherry too many or was it Pimms
Murray just has no class whatsoever - he is just a big girl, cant wait till fed makes him cry on centre court tomorrow.
Jul 7, 2012 -- 6:32PM, Zach_Johnson wrote:
That won't happen.
well you know what i mean..he will certainly be throwing his toys out of the pram at some point.
He will never ever win a big one. I CANNOT RATE HIM ANYWHERE NEAR THE CURRENT TOP PLAYERS AND WITHOUT A DOUBT THERE WILL BE OTHER YOUNG SPRATS COMING THROUGH. To me his character weeps with negativity, submission and self doubt; all traits of a consummate loser.
You can support a sportsman because you were born in the same Country or you can support them because of some other reason: you like their style of play, you relate to them as a human being, you admire them over coming some adversity etc etc. We humans need some reason to relate to another human being in order to support them. Personally, the common passport thing is irrelevant. And, on this basis, I find it a struggle to find any othr reason to support Murray. The Wimbledon fans love the common passport concept and litterally wrap themselves up in their common flag. But, without this, I just cant see him being a popular player.
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He will never ever win a big one. I CANNOT RATE HIM ANYWHERE NEAR THE CURRENT TOP PLAYERS AND WITHOUT A DOUBT THERE WILL BE OTHER YOUNG SPRATS COMING THROUGH. To me his character weeps with negativity, submission and self doubt; all traits of a consummate loser.
He will never ever win a big one. I CANNOT RATE HIM ANYWHERE NEAR THE CURRENT TOP PLAYERS AND WITHOUT A DOUBT THERE WILL BE OTHER YOUNG SPRATS COMING THROUGH. To me his character weeps with negativity, submission and self doubt; all traits of a consummate loser.
Yet another mug tennis poster - been so many of them over the years. That's a big stone they've all had to crawl under.
Has just donated the £1.6M prize money to the Royal Marsden charity
Jul 7, 2013 -- 8:20PM, attitude adjuster wrote:
Has just donated the £1.6M prize money to the Royal Marsden charity
Couldnt he have donated it to the Royal bank of Mike.
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