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agnieszka radwanska vs angelique kerber

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By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 20:05
2.4 lolllll
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 20:33
h2h 2-2

http://tennis.matchstat.com/index.php?ControllerName=Compare&Name_Player1=Agnieszka+Radwanska&Id_Player1=-5915&Name_Player2=Angelique+Kerber&Id_Player2=-4076

last match
2011 WTA Tokyo  Hard Agnieszka Radwanska Angelique Kerber 3-6 6-3 6-3  1.41 - 2.86


bit of the stats

lets look at the break points taken

kerb vs

hradecka 5 of 10    hrd 2of 3
makarova 3/10      maka  1/7
mchalle 5/8        mc 1/11
kim  5/9          kim 0/0
lisicki 8/19      lisicki 5/8

rad vs

rybarikova 6/12   ryb 3/3
vesnina  4/7    ves 0/2
waton 5/6        wat 0/2
giorgi 5/10    camile 1/3
kirilenko 6/18  kiri 5/12


last match tokyo 2011 between rad kerb      rad 5/12  kerb 4/4

us open2011 match kerb won 3sets     rad 5/12    kerb 7/13

2010 beijng kerb won 3sets   rad 8/13    kerb 8/18
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 20:33
aga should be fave
By:
kiwipirate
When: 04 Jul 12 20:41
Based on 2012 form, Kerber should be favourite.
Aga found it tough going against Kirilenko. Therefore,
she will find it much tougher against Kerber.

Aga's second serve will be a real problem in this match-up
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 20:43
Aga has just as good 2012 form Confused
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 20:48
based on 2012 form

aga won 42 matches = 6 time starting 2nd round

losing to pironkowa(suspicious tankExcited) kuzniecowa , cetkowska azarenka6 times
won 3 titles icluding premier mangatory masters miami vs shartapova also dubai and brussels

kerb won 45 matches losing to penneta barhel sharapova pironkova azarenka jie zheng kvitova  na li  errani paszek

won her  2 first titles paris kopenhagen
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 20:49
but what is really matter its the matchup between them 2  imao

besides that lets say both have been great form this yr
By:
kiwipirate
When: 04 Jul 12 20:52
aaronh

;[p

Yes, you are both right in your opinion.
The only difference is that Kerber was performing outside
the top 10 and with her results over the past 6 months she
managed to get into the top 10.

That, in my opinion, is the reason why the bookies favour
Kerber.

Thanks
By:
noland2_
When: 04 Jul 12 20:52
2nd serve of Aga gonna get its @ss-hole eaten Shocked
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 20:56
made mistake

rad won 43 matches (plus 6 starts form 2nd round)+ 4-0 fed cups

kerb 44  +  2-1 fed cups
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 20:58
yes kiwi u r right

but rad started no8 this yr  and moved to no 3 atm whitch is no less significantWink

if u observe patterns of movement in top 100
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 21:00
I think that is a fair assessment kiwi, but it seems odd if thats the case then Kerber is favoured more for moving into the top 10 through good form than Aga moving into the top 5 and more through hers
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:04
noland2  her average 2nd serve is around 10 kmh quicker as well as 1st serve than yr ago and also 1st serve is much more reliable on quite high percentage.

in this tournament she gave nothing to her opponent ,beside moments when was raining (mostly against kiri) where ,i dont know why, her 2 nd serve was much slower, but her serve was great when dry(1st part of 1st set and ,3rd set under the roof-kiri got nothing on it)
as agnieszka says her weak serve its a myth ,and showed this against sharapova,biggest 2nd serve eater on tour. wasnt broken whole match
By:
jin_kazz
When: 04 Jul 12 21:06
kerber will destroy poor aga girl... poor poor girl aga after this match...
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:07
Excited
By:
jin_kazz
When: 04 Jul 12 21:07
aga is from poland, not from spain.
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:08
my best two players atm are meetning in wimbledon semifinal, priceless

and rad is 2.4 priceless
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:09
aga is not a sushi also jinkaz
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 21:09

Jul 4, 2012 -- 9:09PM, ;[p wrote:


aga is not a sushi also jinkaz


LaughLaugh

By:
jin_kazz
When: 04 Jul 12 21:10
:)
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:11
Laugh
By:
kiwipirate
When: 04 Jul 12 21:12
I agree with you aaronh.

Aga is a very intelligent player. The results are there to prove it.
She has achieved tremendous success with her game.

But the bookies favour the power players v Aga.
Azarenka, Kvitova, Sharapova and Serena as well as Kerber
due to her recent form.

I am not saying that Aga cannot win. Of course not, she has
got the game to beat Kerber. But under normal circumstances
it is a very tough match-up for Aga. Her serve is so fragile.
If she gives away too many free points on serve, it means trouble.
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 21:13
Kerber is possibly showing some mental fragility, went into her shell a little in the tiebreak vs Lisicki and in 3rd set and nearly paid for it
By:
kiwipirate
When: 04 Jul 12 21:17
Kerber can easily lose the plot during a match.
Not only on one but on several occasion.

This is why I said a few months ago that as long as
Kerber can talk to her coach during a match, she will
be fine in tight situations. However, when things do
not go her way at a GS match, then we have a different
situation.

She is fragile mentally. Her brain cells need
refreshing from time to time. Like on a computer when
you refresh a page Laugh
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:19
heh

thing is bookies had aga 1.1x for whole yr in most matches, and sudenly she is 2.4,because of kirilenko match, who made great improvements(took shaza to 3 as well) but belive me THE RAIN was a huge factor there and rad is 50% in rain.if no rain it would be 6-1 6-3. belive me.
its a little joke but happy joke this price. i know both players very well for a long time.trust me . i didnt set this fred to convince anybody to back rad,i say LAY HER. no problem for me. but there is so many lyths as her style is unusual, same comes to andzelika ,

they both the same breed , rtad serve is NOT AN ISSUE
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:22
lyths = myths

i say match is 60% rad - 40 % kerb
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:24
i would say angelique serve is an issue in this match up
By:
jin_kazz
When: 04 Jul 12 21:28
Kerber didn't go mental in 2nd set TB. Lisicki made some fantastic job to win that TB.

AGA can't do that stuff.
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 21:31
lol please dont compare lisicki mug to radwanska please

if it would be rad playing in center court, sabine would cry after 2 sets 

NAP
By:
chilipepper
When: 04 Jul 12 22:37
If you follow Aga that close you would know she has a hard time finishing points with a winner grounstroke especially if she has no pace to work with. So basicly if you feed her slow balls she can alomost never outhit you and thats when she just returns the ball back safely on the middle. Thats why some players out there simply know how to play and beat her and not only the tip ones but also players like Safarova or Cetkovska. Kerber knows her well and can take advantage of that, it's quite obvious. Her 1st serve is decent lately but the 2nd remains a liability. And no, they are not the same breed. Radwanska can't outhit anyone, Kerber can hit winners when is needed. Tough match anyway and I hope for a Kerber win.
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 23:12
she never outhit anybody.regardles which kind of ball she has to work with.but if u give her no pace ball u are cooked. she has best accuracy on the tour.she doesnt need to  finish points with powerful winner as she mainly try to out maneuver her opponent.
she never returns ball into the middle if its easy or slow ball with no pace,lol. thats her bigger strenght , lengh of her shots which r landing close tho the baselie ,always . if not she loses a point .simply. how do you think she win her matches,by sticking ball it the middle.??
yes kerb and rad has simmilar stlye based on defence and counter attack at right moment, based on waiting for opponent to be out of position to hit the winner or tough shot,both have big variety of shots and are very intelligent players, mainly taking strenghts from positioning and quickness   difference is kerber is more powerful and rad have better touch an superior accuracy ,match play skills and mentality and she is quicker.but in this match up its difficult to separate them other daily display. but rad winner mentality and superior skills can be a factor here.rad is called by the coaches in the locker as professor(she is 1989)  yes i follow them closely for long time.
kerber find her way on grass recently but rad plays on this surface very well from a youngster, her experience in big matches will be also a factor. i think 2.4 is quite good price. lay kerber back her 2.6 free money.
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winners/ errors
against

rybarikowa 18/16   ryb 14/18       (6-3 6-3)

vesnina 16/0   ves 16/18  (6-2 6-1)

watson 8/6      wat 13/19     (6-0 6-2)

giorgi 11/6   camila  28/30   (6-2 6-3)


kirilenko 36/22    kiri 52/30 





kerber


hradecka 12/9  hrd 15/29

makarova  26/11   maka 26/17

mchalle 22/21    mc 14/22

clisters19/5  kim 10/13

lisicki 19/13  sabine 57/50


rad vs sharapova



good opinion mate, more opinions please


By:
freddiek
When: 04 Jul 12 23:16
Kerber is free money

seriously, Radwanska in a grand slam final??

LaughLaugh
By:
hashasha
When: 04 Jul 12 23:17
love radwanska. great character. like kerber too but i've had enough of this mommy-why-did-i-miss-that-shot-it-was-so-easy-i'm-such-a-failure-mommy-tell-me-i'm-not-the-worst-thing-that-happened-to-you-cuz-i'm-about-to-cry-y-y-y-y-y-y attitude. she's 24-something years old isn't she? COME ON!! ALLEZ!! or whatever. i want you on my list kerbz, cut out the baby didn't get her barbie bullshit and you're ****ing on it. jeez
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 23:21
lol freddiek typed kerb to win


free money rad people LaughLaugh
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 23:25
lol no green out for me then LaughLaugh
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 23:27
;[p is a aga fanboy but definitely some sense in his posts
By:
freddiek
When: 04 Jul 12 23:32
aga fanboys are even sadder than Caro fanboys
By:
;[p
When: 04 Jul 12 23:36
kerber is my second,im sharing my thoughts on what i know best i never underestimate angelika or anybody ,but im worried  about people, looking at this market that  some losing a plot a bit.

lot said about rad here maybe someone give insight on kerbrer if can
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 12 23:36
why is Radwanska in a Grand Slam final any more laughable than Kerber being in one anyway Confused

i mean Errani FFS
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