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We want to void all bets after retirement. No more stolen business!
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a well known ruse with handicap horses is to deliberately run a horse slowly so it drops in the handicap, gets a light weight, and then when everything looks good ie ground conditions, strength of oppo, it's sent out to run for real. this isn;t considered cheating, but is actually admired as part of the game! the punters on here who cry fix all the time would have fits doing the horses.
how do you know they dont do the horse racing?
and you brits don't cry foul over that tactic in public? I thought you would be all for fair play in everything, every sport. In football it always seems like you condemn someone who dives (Drogba anyone? Wasn't he even booed by Chelsea supporters for doing it?) compared to some other cultures who praise it as clever and as you just said with the horses...part of the game.
they dress it up by saying in prev races the horse wasn't right, or the ground wasn't right. and if the slow running is too blatant they might give the jockey a token ban for a week.
and to be fiar, it's a bit like tennis players. horses aren't machines and a horse's form will fluctuate over the season the same way a tennis player's will. you can plot this quite easily.
true.
One last question: These races, they are on like every day, right? Are the stands typically filled? Or is that just the big races that the Queen visits too?
I was once pretty darn close to winning a weekend super special VIP exclusive trip to one those (Ascot?...not sure) in a betfair competition a while back. I think I would've skipped the race stuff completely and just visited London.
I don't quite know....is there anybody who ever watches horse racing without having a bet? Simply as a sport because it's cool?
One last question: These races, they are on like every day, right? Are the stands typically filled? Or is that just the big races that the Queen visits too?
I was once pretty darn close to winning a weekend super special VIP exclusive trip to one those (Ascot?...not sure) in a betfair competition a while back. I think I would've skipped the race stuff completely and just visited London.
I don't quite know....is there anybody who ever watches horse racing without having a bet? Simply as a sport because it's cool?
Germany's greatest racehorse trainer passed away yesterday Edy...don't you take notice of these things...and BTW Baden-Baden is a lovely place to visit...
No, to my shame I have to admit that I do not even know his name and couldn't find the news about his death during a quick look either...
Nice to hear you like Baden-Baden, though I've never been there myself. Had some
Nice to hear you like Baden-Baden, though I've never been there myself. Had some
By jimmy69 on 12 Mar 12 15:46
I love sauerkraut with warm beer...
yet or when you were there?
edy 26 Apr 12 22:53
One last question: These races, they are on like every day, right? Are the stands typically filled? Or is that just the big races that the Queen visits too?
racing at least 2 venues every day, usually more. stands aren't always bursting, but most meetings are quite well attended, surprisingly so imo
One last question: These races, they are on like every day, right? Are the stands typically filled? Or is that just the big races that the Queen visits too?
racing at least 2 venues every day, usually more. stands aren't always bursting, but most meetings are quite well attended, surprisingly so imo
5 in the uk today and 1 in ireland
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Meetings/
http://horses.sportinglife.com/Meetings/
A long time ago Edy...mid 1980's way before you were born
Saw the great Acatenango win...
Saw the great Acatenango win...
HUH?? What goes on here? Whytf was my comment about Suarez at world cup removed then?
He hit the ball out of the goal with half the planet watching, I cannot call it c h e a t i n g now!?
He hit the ball out of the goal with half the planet watching, I cannot call it c h e a t i n g now!?
b e t f a i r in s t a s i mode. t e s t t h r e a d about s u a r e z quickly removed
ya-awn
ya-awn
dude jimmy...mid 80s? That's like...when there still used to be a good and an evil Germany. You seriously are old 
Were you around when Queen Elizabeth I led England to never before seen cultural heights?
i think a set plus 1 ball would be hilarious! be so obvious. but betfair told me they couldn't it because of problems verifying the 1 ball had been played 
We should make a petition for jjjj to be banned for being the antichrist
Good idea, but only after we made a successful petition that forces Betfair to send every member a few bottles of ale whenever there's a website malfunction.
Except for jimmy. He gets a pack of herbal tea.
Except for jimmy. He gets a pack of herbal tea.
ffs you don't even have prizes. at least offer a pack of gum or something
bragging rights on the phorum. can't buy them! have to be earned
when we used to have one the most interesting thing was to see who chose not to enter lol not saying that's relevant for today as it's a bit short notice, but when the long running one was on certain people who aftertimed a lot never actually entered
ffs reinstate the one ball rule again, i want my babos mummy!
Wait, wasn't there another noob thread with opposite request? 
I think we should organize a death match between those 2. Whoever loses, humanity wins 
I think we should organize a death match between those 2. Whoever loses, humanity wins
Betfair will never cooperate.
They make money with every match.
Bets void by retirement will cost betfair money as simple as it is.
They make money with every match.
Bets void by retirement will cost betfair money as simple as it is.
I agree, to many people who fix matches abuse this system
I vote YES, or for the addition of 'completed match' market.
disagree. keeps some money in the set betting markets, which are safer.
whilst Betfair are making money, they will never change it.
whilst Betfair are making money, they will never change it.
I have to say, betting on the tennis for most of January on Bet563 seemed much safer - I didn't have to concern myself with the risk of a player retiring and so was able to bet larger amounts.
which makes me think that that Betfair would gain, not lose money, if they voided all bets on matches won by retirement as people would stake more.
WOW!! who lost a ton of nice cash yeasturday like me??
Why would I be seething? I want the markets to all be voided with a retirement.
Stupid rule agree! Should be just one ball played 
ffs betfair stop voiding bets
ffs betfair stop voiding bets
betfair should be able to void all bets after the player announces retirement, it should be clear from the market when this happens. Don't have an issue with losing money on a player who retires but it is massively unfair to allow the fastest to hoover money after retirement has been announced.
Oct 27, 2013 -- 12:32PM, lurka wrote:
betfair should be able to void all bets after the player announces retirement, it should be clear from the market when this happens. Don't have an issue with losing money on a player who retires but it is massively unfair to allow the fastest to hoover money after retirement has been announced.
+1. Lost several hundred at Rome this year on a certain Scot.
Murray should never be backed on clay, never won a tournament on it
My second biggest loss was his ridiculous match against Nemo last year!
Oct 27, 2013 -- 12:32PM, lurka wrote:
betfair should be able to void all bets after the player announces retirement, it should be clear from the market when this happens. Don't have an issue with losing money on a player who retires but it is massively unfair to allow the fastest to hoover money after retirement has been announced.
exactly! extortionate company - bet"fair"
+1 if player retires all match odds should be voided imo
I was told the fastest to hoover money after retirement is betfair themselves hence the 5 sec bet in play delay,im not
sure if this is true but if it is then everyone here is wasting their time...
sure if this is true but if it is then everyone here is wasting their time...
Oct 30, 2013 -- 11:19PM, sexycystever wrote:
+1 if player retires all match odds should be voided imo
no
he would be seething even more sitting on big green and the loser retires @2-6, 2-5 0-30*
you can also win when a player (opponent) retires, so i don't mind it. Same for everybody. Hoovering is the problem. Worst i've ever seen is Ons Jabeur in Baku this year, she was 6-3, 4-1 up at 1.01/1.02 and retired. there was talk of a fake injury as she didn't want to play an Israeli (Peer) in the next round.
No. Like the rule. As someone says - same for everyone. At least you're not wasting your time for 2 hours when there is a retirement in the final set.
assuming a lot of people are traders here, why would you want all your hard work ruled out by a void?
betfair are not going to void an entire market and lose all their commissions. It is ridiculous to suggest that betfair do this.
its annoying when you lose out to the rule. i haven't gained from it yet.
Lmao don't you guys get it?
With the retirement rule the way it is it means that every time 1 set of any match is completely Betfair GET commission.
Why would they want to change it?
No chance! Sure I totally agree that it's arguably even unethical of them.
But hey, they're a business after all and out to make money.
With the retirement rule the way it is it means that every time 1 set of any match is completely Betfair GET commission.
Why would they want to change it?
No chance! Sure I totally agree that it's arguably even unethical of them.
But hey, they're a business after all and out to make money.
it should be one ball.
with the advent of in play betting and the myriad ways a tennis player could contrive the result, the original justification for voiding if the first set isn't completed seems redundant.
i'd be interested to know what difference this would make to any arbers, i don't they have the same sway as the big lot of the cricket who got the match tied rule changed.
with the advent of in play betting and the myriad ways a tennis player could contrive the result, the original justification for voiding if the first set isn't completed seems redundant.
i'd be interested to know what difference this would make to any arbers, i don't they have the same sway as the big lot of the cricket who got the match tied rule changed.
Arbers will have different methods and therefore different preferences, but I would have to reduce my turnover a bit if they changed to one ball since the majority of books I use are either one set or void.
A possible better than 1000-1 double on Del Potro and Ferrer this week before their retirements. Albeit they both retired at two very different points - Devverman was just over 2-1 at the point of Delpo's injury.
Aug 23, 2012 -- 10:59AM, Srichaphan or Ancic? wrote:
Hlasujem ÁNO, alebo pre doplnenie "dokončil zápas" trhu.
right but betfair is
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i thought this was a peition to cancel wta tour tennis and i got all excited for a minute. that i would have signed a hundred times over.
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