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caramba
28 Mar 12 20:01
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Nice to hear some real commentators again. Love Robbie Koenig.
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Report edy March 28, 2012 10:19 PM BST
I asked ilovelay....swebih. As he said he loves fixing (as it's the only way to make money), but hates Tipsarevic for fixing...
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:19 PM BST
edy that's the worst news I heard all day.  maybe he is just used to writing it like that so often LaughCry
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:19 PM BST
I WAS NEVER BANNED BUT AS YOU TALK LOT OF SCHITT AND BELIEVE IN IT I WILL NOT SAY MORE. Cry
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:19 PM BST
sometmes u just ALWAYS get on the opposite side of a player thats why u hate him/her
Report edy March 28, 2012 10:20 PM BST
dude swebih. I'm talking to freaking ilovelay, NOT YOU. Jesus...
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:20 PM BST
if muggray wins here, it will be my few wins on him BTW
Report Danyo March 28, 2012 10:20 PM BST
Phixxarevic
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:20 PM BST

Mar 28, 2012 -- 10:18PM, edy wrote:


you can write "fix" normally these days btw. I know you were banned and away, but with the forum upgrade betfair took that filter away from the tennis forum.


if everybody says it it quickly loses meaning, very smart upgrade that. rids of censorship conspiracy theorists

Report singero March 28, 2012 10:20 PM BST
more break points next game?
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:21 PM BST
is fixtoria free money later?
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:21 PM BST
judorick has gone very quiet...
Report singero March 28, 2012 10:21 PM BST
not much upside to backing tipsaremug now
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:21 PM BST
Edy that's not easy these days.Maybe Jesus can tell us about fixes Laugh
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:21 PM BST
Clement wears sunglasses for an eye condition
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:22 PM BST
just watching a movie and catching up with tennis in the ads gimp
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:22 PM BST
Pretty spectacular collapse this
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:23 PM BST
1.6 on Murray in a minute
Report thepunter March 28, 2012 10:23 PM BST
One of the greatest tanks in fixis career.
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:23 PM BST
another awful approach shot why does tipsy go down the line so often, would have thought that cross court is the easier opetion
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:23 PM BST
I think you owe murray an apology mate Laugh
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:23 PM BST
Why does Tipsy keep hitting his approach shots at one of the best passers in the game?
Report betchat March 28, 2012 10:24 PM BST
You can see how irritating it is when one player gifts an easy shot and the other player goes and puts it out.
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:24 PM BST
Total f1x,simple,If you are injured,lets make money and people will be happy to get 100% more tennis than usual.

Otherwise next year tickets for free...money away,tournaments away and so on..

1+1=3
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:25 PM BST
fix doesn't have a 1 in it swebih
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:25 PM BST
at 4:2 30:00 Murray ill,set 4:6

ATP tablets on break down

favou set down and 3:3 Laugh
Report singero March 28, 2012 10:25 PM BST
tips has one point in the last 3 murray service games. but market unconvinced
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:26 PM BST

Mar 28, 2012 -- 10:23PM, MoneyBagger wrote:


Why does Tipsy keep hitting his approach shots at one of the best passers in the game?


its also the lower % shot lol trying to outsmart and wrong foot muggray

Report owning March 28, 2012 10:26 PM BST
all my green is on muggray, hoping he gets brojen so i can bak him at 1.5-1.6 again
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:26 PM BST
listen I supported the kunnt for YEARS

I defended him to the Nth degree on several tennis forums

I built statistical models that proved he was a near cert to be a multi-slammer

I have paid my dues

I know think he is a total KNOB and if you had followed all my posts over the last 7 years you would know why I think that

so I won't be apologising to the jock kunnt for anything alright GIMP?
Report edy March 28, 2012 10:27 PM BST
Are you seriously suggesting Tipsarevic originally wanted to give a walkover?

These guys are not total and complete pussies. He's not in a wheelchair...
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:27 PM BST
This match is missing tie break,no?
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:27 PM BST
tupsy needs at least 2 DFs from muggray the way he's serving now
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:27 PM BST
I have gone all in on murray
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:28 PM BST
miss Laugh
Report owning March 28, 2012 10:28 PM BST
these re the mug shots that muggray can produce at times, hilarious
Report singero March 28, 2012 10:28 PM BST
a bonus point from murray, now 2 in 4 service games
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:28 PM BST
loadedgimp • March 28, 2012 10:27 PM BST
I have gone all in on murray

you second name contraindikator?

price?
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:28 PM BST
Ilovelay - HE plays tennis while YOU bet on him, and YOU call HIM a mug?
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:29 PM BST
Tipsy just can't cope with Murray's consistency.
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:29 PM BST
1.1 swebih
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:29 PM BST
ok gl me layed 1,16 for must green tipsa
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:29 PM BST
but I also backed him at 2.3, laid him at 1.3 then backed him above it and laid him below it until it dropped to 1.16 then I decided all in now.
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:30 PM BST
out?
Report edy March 28, 2012 10:30 PM BST
loadedgimp - ilovelay has never said anything remotely nice about any player
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:31 PM BST
murray looking a lot more solid now dont think he will drop service, good luck all.
edy - makes you think he loses a fair bit on here then.  I dont know why I try to change the tennis forum, lost cause.
Report edy March 28, 2012 10:32 PM BST
except maybe Di Wu or somebody. I think he once said some chinese male player was a great talent.
Report Dirkules March 28, 2012 10:32 PM BST
murray will choke for sure
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:32 PM BST
heheh
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:33 PM BST
gimp

the whole forum is a lost cause not just tennis
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:33 PM BST
give us tie break,this is almost same as sex Wink
Report edy March 28, 2012 10:33 PM BST
To be fair I think ilovelay doesn't really grasp the meaning of mug. He just sees it thrown around by everybody and thinks it's fun fun fun, in true Rebecca Black style.
Report Dirkules March 28, 2012 10:34 PM BST
murray choke coming
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:34 PM BST
fair point judo, the under 6.5 thread in footy forum is my favourite thread to go, good people there.
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:34 PM BST
its not only "mug"
Report shiraz March 28, 2012 10:36 PM BST
swebih.....if you really think that watching Murray play tennis is "almost same as sex", you are not doing it right.
Report Danyo March 28, 2012 10:36 PM BST
would love to see murray choke.... come on
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:36 PM BST
6-3 I think.
Report thepunter March 28, 2012 10:37 PM BST
mmmhhh 4-2 => 4-6 ...we already had that once today no ?
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:37 PM BST
that was a crazy final shot from tips
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:38 PM BST
I have given up posting statistical analysis now

posted a thread about the Grand National which I spent three weeks analysing on a spreadsheet to come up with a list of 9 or 10 runners to be backed at decent prices up to 75 on Betfair - took a lot of work and my selections hve all shortened massively since I posted the analysis (early March_ and I now have 6 horses in the top 12 in the betting

but I have had nothing but massive abuse so that's it

the whole forum is just a playground, no serious punters
Report sammybizzle March 28, 2012 10:39 PM BST
This mug commentating on bet365..Always doing italian footy...He is a ****
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:39 PM BST
go Tips Excited
Report Dirkules March 28, 2012 10:39 PM BST
yes tipsa :)
Report blackat March 28, 2012 10:40 PM BST
judo, maybe the serious punters don't post that much, given the general quality of most posts...
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:41 PM BST
boooo
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:42 PM BST
thats a shame judo, this place is full of a lot of bitter people.  kudos on the horses though, I don't ever wander in there as I have zero idea about horses.
As far as I am aware the serious punters all got together on a different site - they left this place behind.
Report betchat March 28, 2012 10:42 PM BST
So Janko can put the effort in - for 2 or 3 points.
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:42 PM BST
yes well I posted plenty of serious stuff over the last few months but none of it gets taken seriously

genuinely a horrible place
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:43 PM BST
shiraz • March 28, 2012 10:36 PM BST
swebih.....if you really think that watching Murray play tennis is "almost same as sex", you are not doing it right.

i did wrote it?
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:43 PM BST
i just come here to vent tbf. shouldn't listen to anyone much anyway. ends in tears guaranteed
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:45 PM BST
judorick • March 28, 2012 10:42 PM BST
yes well I posted plenty of serious stuff over the last few months but none of it gets taken seriously



genuinely a horrible place


if you are serious or not only other can tell you,not you self?

i am only serious in real life and when i am writing with edy Love
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:45 PM BST
1.08...mkt not too convinced he'll serve it out here
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:46 PM BST
1,09 for serv out lol

normally 1,03

if no break i quit forum for today

Laugh
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:46 PM BST
yes that's all it comes down to

venting
jealousy
abuse
Report Danyo March 28, 2012 10:46 PM BST
epic choke pls... else it wouldnt be funny...
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:46 PM BST
ctrl-z vent what? some of us come here because nobody in our lives are interested in discussing gambling as they see it as an addiction and a waste of money.
Report ermis March 28, 2012 10:47 PM BST
i watch the match and the scor think changes opponent from what i imagine to happen from what i see.am i wrong?
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:47 PM BST
I can show anybody how to win money here but they don't care about winning money, just about betting crazily.
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:47 PM BST
please don't talk to me Swebih you are proven to be an idiot that barely speaks english
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:48 PM BST
haha...total miss hit in the middle of that rally, still went in tho
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:49 PM BST
@ loadedgimp

*mainly the reason. take some steam off have a laugh it's not a bad thing
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:50 PM BST
Great consistency from Murray...been the difference in ths match
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:51 PM BST
not so bad for you, some of us dont have jobs and see this as a source of income, so I come on match thread to see what people think as i am not great at betting tennis.  lots of conflicting views and people calling players mugs doesn't help.  then again I can make it on my own.  its no joke when I bet 100 of my money on murray.
Report edy March 28, 2012 10:52 PM BST
Why vent your anger on the forum? Buy yourself a giant Roly-poly toy or simply a punching bag and prepare lots of mugshot of tennis players you can put on i's head.
Report swebih March 28, 2012 10:52 PM BST
God night all,nice match to trade...
Report betchat March 28, 2012 10:53 PM BST
Janko gimme shot to end the match Laugh
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:53 PM BST
CSKA moscow let me down today in basketball but I should know better than short odds away from home.  Williams didn't make any kind of comeback and Murray lost his first set. Won 80 yesterday on tennis breaking even today, tough week.
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 10:54 PM BST
Basketball: -£2.22 | Football: £144.95 | Tennis: £0.51  Total P&L:  £143.24

Tennis    Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Tennis / Tipsarevic v A Murray : Match Odds     28-Mar-12 20:00     28-Mar-12 22:51    17.35
Tennis / Tipsarevic v A Murray : Set 01 Winner     28-Mar-12 20:00     28-Mar-12 21:06    -15.00
Tennis / V Williams v A Radwanska : Match Odds     28-Mar-12 18:00     28-Mar-12 19:32    -11.00
Tennis / Marrero/Verdasco v Paes/Stepanek : Match Odds     28-Mar-12 15:45     28-Mar-12 17:31    1.15
Tennis / Del Potro v Ferrer : Match Odds     28-Mar-12 02:30     28-Mar-12 04:21    5.42
Tennis / Roddick v Monaco : Match Odds     27-Mar-12 20:30     27-Mar-12 23:59    -3.00
Tennis / Tsonga v F Mayer : Match Odds     27-Mar-12 19:45     27-Mar-12 23:49    2.74
Tennis / Tsonga v F Mayer : Set 01 Winner     27-Mar-12 19:45     27-Mar-12 23:26    2.85
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:55 PM BST
horrible match from murray

alright, he wasn't feeling great but he has regressed to this negative stuff from the back of the court like he did in spring 2010 and 2011

p1sses me off to see him play like this

where are all the creative shots? pulling plays around, bamboozling them and all that ?

just a very good baseline defender now, waste of talent. He had a game that could destroy people even Federer when he wanted

sick of it
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 10:57 PM BST
Problem is that kind of play works against 97% of players in the top 100.
Report judorick March 28, 2012 10:57 PM BST
yes exactly but it won't get you to the very top
Report nofx March 28, 2012 10:58 PM BST
loadedgimp,  this is my main source of income. you the one that called it gambling. also my friends and family not interested in trading because they don't do it themselves and don't care for anyone playing tennis besides Nadal and Federer, what helps is they know how i pay the bills.
if you don't have another job may be you want to look into becoming good at trading by other means then forum discussions. hope this helps
Report loadedgimp March 28, 2012 11:00 PM BST
it is gambling ctrl-z, trading is a form of it.  I treat this as work and don't appreciate childish remarks on the forum, my bad.
Report MoneyBagger March 28, 2012 11:05 PM BST
He plays very similarly to Lendl - very consistent and hard to break down.

But being consistent isn't good enough for the Grand Slams. To beat Fed, Djoko and Nadal you need to be aggressive and take the game to them. I think one if Murray's problem is changing from his defensive game into his attacking game. He wins so any matches from being consistent and waiting for the mistakes that it must be hard to change it against the top 3.
Report judorick March 28, 2012 11:06 PM BST
yes me too

take strong statistical stand points and bet heavily on those stats, made a fortune over 10 years

gimp, join a proper punting forum like olbg, punters lounge and others if you want proper discussion without all the childishness

I dont often punt tennis, I am a horse punter
Report nofx March 28, 2012 11:06 PM BST
if you depend on luck to make profit at all you're gambling. but treat it as semantics by all means.
try not to get annoyed by repetitive comments on this board, it's useless. Good Luck anyway.
Report RedAdair March 29, 2012 9:36 PM BST
"but then he developed this horrible persona, losses to total KUNNTS like Young etc and now I phucking hate him"

Do you really mean that, Judo?

Just catching up with the match thread. I could have watched this match last night but chose not too.

Sometimes I just can't cope with the stress of watching Andy.
Report shiraz March 29, 2012 9:56 PM BST
judorick
28 Mar 12 21:36
I aint had a bet at all

just love ripping the p1ss out of Murray coz he is a sweaty jock kunnt



I'd say that is a yes RedAdair, this guy was ranting all match and then started going on about how the forum is full venting, jealousy and abuse with no serious punters.
Not exacttly circumspect.
Report RedAdair March 29, 2012 10:15 PM BST
"horrible match from murray

alright, he wasn't feeling great but he has regressed to this negative stuff from the back of the court like he did in spring 2010 and 2011

p1sses me off to see him play like this

where are all the creative shots? pulling plays around, bamboozling them and all that ?

just a very good baseline defender now, waste of talent. He had a game that could destroy people even Federer when he wanted

sick of it"


I totally understand your frustration, Judo.
Report RedAdair March 29, 2012 10:51 PM BST
Yay! I've just seen Andy plays Rafa tomorrow. My fave match-up.

Hope Andy turns up fully fit and in the right frame of mind.

I'm the eternal optimist Happy
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