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Have been trying to build a bank here for a while and slowly getting there. There have been a few on with threads along the same line (big shout out to Dimebar especially). What I was thinking of doing was picking out 5 to 10 bets for the day grossing a total return of between 10 and 20% each day. Absolute max bet would be a 20% bank bet. I would be mainly working on tennis and soccer, backing, laying & trading.
No.1 What do you think?
No.2 Can people post their thoughts here on one good solid bet for the day - don't care if it is only a 10% return once it is fairly rock solid.
No.3 Am i just talking out my arse or can this be done - all advice from people worth taking advice from is welcome.
Cheers
Have been trying to build a bank here for a while and slowly getting there. There have been a few on with threads along the same line (big shout out to Dimebar especially). What I was thinking of doing was picking out 5 to 10 bets for the day grossing a total return of between 10 and 20% each day. Absolute max bet would be a 20% bank bet. I would be mainly working on tennis and soccer, backing, laying & trading.
No.1 What do you think?
No.2 Can people post their thoughts here on one good solid bet for the day - don't care if it is only a 10% return once it is fairly rock solid.
No.3 Am i just talking out my arse or can this be done - all advice from people worth taking advice from is welcome.
Cheers
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The sound of silence would suggest the MUGS here have no idea
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all right then, a mug's perspective: a consistent 10% bank increase so per day, let alone 20%, isn't realistic whatever anyone will tell you. it would mean 1644% increase after 30 days and mindboggling figures in no time. there have been times i thought i could do such thing or close to it after multiplying the bank few times over in a matter of days but whatever your approach be it volatile trading, careful selection or both, it will catch up with you if your targets aren't sensible. hope this helps, best to find out these things the hard way though. |
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Yeah Jimmy lot of noise on here until you want some sensible comments
Ctrl-z targets are high - second person to comment on this. On soccer forum guys are reckoning a consistent 4% is what pros get. I'd suppose I am trying to get 10% per day (20% is definitely ambitious) but when you include loss days etc your running margin will probably only end up around the 4/5% mark in the long run....hopefully! |
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Why set targets? That suggests to me that you will try and find bets come what may. Just back/lay what you think is value. You may get 10 of those 1 day, nothing the next...
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yes i try not get lost in that useless maths either. one opportunity at the time. it does help if you don't aim too high though even if "virtual". shouldn't increase your stakes every time you increased your bank.
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5% of your bank, so your new bank not the initial, is a lot
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thanks for the ideas guys - will take them on board. Any ideas on todays/tonights tennis?
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jimmy69 28 Mar 12 11:47
Why set targets? That suggests to me that you will try and find bets come what may. Just back/lay what you think is value. You may get 10 of those 1 day, nothing the next... someone appears to have hacked jimmy's account and is posting patient advice.  very solid advice as well: let the market come to you. one corollary is that if opportunities are evenly distributed across all matches, you'd expect to make significantly more bets during the first and second rounds of tournaments than the final rounds. |
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Jimmy69 is spot on, value has no interest in targets.
And anyone who thinks they can achieve 5%/10% daily should be either chumming it with Warren Buffet or in the lunatic asylum . |
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10% is the ROI you want everyday ( you bet 500 on 5 different bets and you win 50 ) or is the 10% the daily bak increase ( your bank is 5000, you bet 1000 on 10 different bets, and you gain 500 )...
The first one is great/closetomiracle stuff if you're able to do it... the second one is not in human ability if u can't see the future... |
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looking to grow bank by 10% per day Ricky
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I really don't think it's possible...but you know.....impossible is nothing... to be honest I think this is impossible..... you can get even 200% from day 1 to day 3... then you'll probably go back to 0% ( and it means - 100,00% ) in a couple bets....
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Ronnie in play...
Horse Racing: £8.71 | Snooker: £65.62 | Tennis: £11.37 | Tote: | Total P&L: £85.70 Snooker Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£) Snooker / OSullivan v Campbell : Match Odds 28-Mar-12 12:30 28-Mar-12 15:48 65.62 |
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well done Sir.. why did you post it?
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Dead Cert of the day lol... dunno sorry.
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it is not impossible, pick 10 1.01's and that is 10% - is it impossible to find 10 bets that win when the market says they are basically won already?
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Barceloooona
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I would suggest Fenerbache women in Euroleague basketball is a very solid 1.01 - my bet was low proportion of bank
Fenerbahce (W) 1.05 £62.00 £3.22 £62.00 |
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Under 6.5 at 1.02, Banik Ostrava - I have £100 on but no more money left, 1.01 if you like.
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rickysomas you have no reasoning in your post. what is to stop me picking 500 1.01's? it is only a matter of discipline and ability. I don't only bet 1.01 but it is a majority of my betting, also if market goes against you it is very easy to trade at 1.1 to lose 9% and then maybe you will be more focused. you don't lose 100% of stake if a 1.01 starts losing.
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Italy U19 1.09 150.00 Back 28-Mar-12 14:36 13.50
Placed when it was 2-0 to Italy. There is 9% thread is easily achievable, it is about knowledge and discipline, I can help but I doubt I can tell you to get on at odds I get on at in time because they usually disappear within a minute. |
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yes but once the first 1.01 of the day obliges you to trade out, to gain your 10% you'll not need 12/14 more 1.01 winners in that day but to be but 24/28..... so you'll back everything... and if you fall again you'll need 36/42 to have your 10% gain of that day... you can have an endless row of 1.01 winners if you are the luckiest boy on this earth but not picking them 10 per day....
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sorry for double posting
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I believe your negative outlook on my points comes from watching low odds getting busted. Betting can be argued to be impossible in every strategy, 10 per day is not a rule only a target, and targets don't need to be stuck to.
I promise you ricky that at least 10 football matches today will see less than 7 goals. It is very easy to pick the ones that will. |
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Targets don't need to be stuck, yes of course... this boy only asked if it can be made... I said according to me it can't be made... you said it's possible, now you said there's no need to stuck targets.... maybe you're not that confident it can be made for sure.... I'm almost sure it can't be made even picking and choosing and reasoning as long as u want... u can't control luck... in tennis a retirement and you're done, in football a crazy comeback from 20 to 23 in the last ten mins and you're done... I don't know..maybe in other sports it can be done...
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if you want you can tell me what 10 matches will end with less than 7 goals...or 7 goals..cause we talking about under 6,5 Goals... but you have to do it, today, tomorrow, Toyota...
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ricky have u see the prices for a lay bayern and barça? temptating! and aza to win miami.
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annibal I was thinking about laying Barca.... tbh I prefer to bet on over hence I think Milan will give his heart to score as much as they can... they'll probably open spaces to Barca at times.... I'd love to see this match to end 2 1 for AC Milan ( why not in the first half ) at least for return match SHOW!!!!!
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Yes but when you look at it - 10 matches a day with less than 7 goals, or Sharapova/Nadal/Murray/Tsonga to win when they have basically won it, or teams ahead by 2 goals that are far better than their opponents (1 game = 10%), or mismatched basketball teams, or strong basketball teams with a 20 point lead = very doable. I cannot guarantee I will never lose, but I can guarantee I will win in the long run.
Sometimes you know a bet will win, and odds are only there because people hope for a trade, the skill is not betting when there is no bet to be made. In a week or 2 I will start a thread and show people how to do it. Till then I will be betting the same way. annibal types up some dangerous bet which in my eyes is not sensible. Anybody who opposes bayern or barca at those odds is crazy, they have a very good chance of winning. |
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all i say to op is be careful with your money and start small, no point in putting all 1500 on 1 bet.
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loaded I'll wait for your thread and Good Luck with it if u start it...
tbh I've already see in the past years LA Lakers and Miami loosing from 205 points leading... I've seen Tsonga after having MP on his own serve ( nalbandian last week ) I mean, with patience and costancy you'll be green long term... but not 10% of your per day every day... otherwise you wouuld be the world owner P.S. Sorry for talking here SPUPOTTER |
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there is tree players who gave me luck ths week kirilenko vs k.pervak, wozniacky vs wickmayer, sharapova vs li.. loaded GL
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no worries ricky - listening in with interest. I think discipline has always been the issue with me - growing, growing then do something stupid (like backing Serena)and I am back to square one. I think loadedgimp is right in that there is money to be made in low priced situations, however I think a lot of people (myself included) have seen 1.01 or 1.04 and go "here's free money" with no knowledge of what we are backing, what way an event is going etc. And I have found that to be extremely STOOOOOPID
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How to make £100,000 in less than two months.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01318/bettingslip_380eps_1318830j.jpg This guy then lost more than £100,000 on Djokovic to beat Federer at the French. |
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As jimmy69, DStyle and dlarssonf have already pointed out, your mindset should'nt be to look at how much your bank increases per day / week / month. Instead, focus on looking for "value" and vary your bet size based on the level of value (Kelly).
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i would rather look for a fixxx
plenty of them as guys on forum will point it out to u at certani time no worries |
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haha fixes all over the place - there are some knowledgeable people about those types of games. for example another good bet now is Bayern Munich to win 2-0 up 2% return. I know these are awful prices but they are decent when they add up.
My main bet was laying Marseilles HT at 6, the price rose up to 30+ before bayern scored and I was trading out slowly. You must be sure what you are betting on will win basically. Lost today on Venus Williams (got involved too early and she was 5/1 so was hoping for luck) and Andy Murray (not lost yet but wasn't waiting till I knew the result) |