Gilles Simon

Well done Zam..I don't know why you bother posting here...shouldn't you be on a beach somewhere living the high life with all your Betfair winnings

id still b backing simon wiv them odds

blow your own whistle much zamorano!!! you sound like a little girl

Why are the odds not far from what they were before the match?!

I'd back Berlocq now without question now at these odds if i had a stream and could see there is no injury

Can't believe he lost that set

b365 suspended it..

mto for someone?

Carlos drifting

Just people getting out of their bets thats all.

sp almost

guys but who has the injury ?

thats the difference between me and u jimmy...

i keep working in my life in what i really want despite having the chance of not working anymore since 2007...

this place gave me all the money i have so i like to be here.

you just come here with another pourposes...

medical TO
?

What is happening?

Market manipulators at work

jesus id b peeved if id backed a player and could only get out at sp wen a set up

So it turs out Simon couldn't win a 1st set from an injured challenger player?? 

ever so slightly some panic now

it has to be berloq

1.9 arounf 7k for grabs now

some 2 now lol

why berloq has to be injured?
i saw him last week, there was nothing to see from an injury

zam is a mug who is definitely on benefits

what is happening?

they started playing

Play resumed

and Simon is less than prematch odds

3 options:

1. "Snow-ball effect" caused by a sharp drop on Simon price just before the start of the match.
2. The market is pricing that Berlocq might not be fresh enough. He has played many matches recently and had a long trip to Acapulco from Buenos Aires a couple of days ago.
3. Berlocq's "friends" know he is gonna lose this match

I vote for 3...

drift happened way too late for it to be pure natural market movement

People do know that Berlocq, as prematch favourite, wins 87% of matches having won the first set, and that he is in excellent form, while Simon wins just 17% of matches from a set down and is in bad form, right?

Crazy prices...Berlocq must be missing a leg or something

That's why I said I would back him here without question.
But does he have an injury, that's what we want to know

b365 isnt putting the match in play...

becloq serving 40:40

These odds are what you'd expect if Simon started the match at 1.1s.

So Berlocq is injured ?

fishy stuff, glad I'm out of this with no loss

no man ....... he is playin well  ....................

hmm, whats going on? b365 just removed it.

People say Berlocq is injured, someone panics, it produces more panic from others, who push Simon to favourite, then they start playing and those people try to ensure Simon stays as favourite so they can get out of their bets.

And those people then put big bets on Simon at big odds on the bookies to ensure they dont lose either way. Bookies realise, close the market because they suspect something dodgy.

follow the game on ATP web site

dont quite get it... looks as the aninumous hit bf... the odds in almost alla tennis matches are strange right now check dodic for example...

Still playing. Berloq won first game. 15-0 to Simon in his service game.

Lots of unusual betting things going on with tennis on Betfair at the moment. Their integrity team should be checking these things. Should.

One game all. Still not showing on B365 though.

weird, commentators on twitter sayings Simon who is exhausted due to the heat

can you post link to that twitter page?
please

but did Simon take an injury break for that though? He usually looks exhausted.

https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/berlocq%20simon just search on for berlocq and simon, used google translate so cant remember who wrote it.. but it was a few min ago only.

This is really annoying come on Simon just run through this now

i seriously doubt berlocq is injured

he wouldnt hold 2 games against a counterpuncher like simon who would use every inch of the court just to screw him up even more

I think the market is starting to realise that.

A break of serve now would be amusing

https://twitter.com/#!/JuaniCeballos espn commentator..just replied saying nobody have been injured

ok so let see ...

Simon to win set, and then someone to take big odds on Berlocq and Berlocq to win match

too unpredictable

one thing i know is im not betting on simon a break up here no way

ok so the break is for now :/

And people were saying of course, that Berlocq v Nalbandian was not a fix. Think again, after this match, if he loses.

Who the hell plays a 100 minute first set in a fixed match

i think the match v bandy was sus

what can we expect now ..

2-to-1 while a set up!!!!!!!!

just put your bank where your mouth is and put your bank on simon if you're 100% convinced it's a fix. Easy, isn't it?

no way this is a fix....

Explain the odds then.

Its either an injury, which you disproved, or a fix, surely?

speculation, ppl without a feed making bets against the run of play.

Speculation affects the market yes, but it usually rebalances.

do you remember last year 1st round in acapulco: Eduardo Schwank    Juan Ignacio Chela?

now CB is suddenly fav.

WTF Simon

if this was a fix, surely more money would be going on simon now

It does not have to be fixed for a match winner. It can be the equivalent of spot fixing in cricket.

i.e. someone knew that Simon would break serve first.

The odds are always like this when someone seems injured. The market can't work out how much to compensate so you just get people following the last few bets and creating waves of money that push the odds too far every time someone breaks/ goes 0-30 down/ the injured person limps slightly/ injury time out is taken.

This is simply not fixed - A player like Simon has absolutely NO NEED to. Money? no. Huge risk? yes. There's your answer.

The odds are always like this when someone seems injured. The market can't work out how much to compensate so you just get people following the last few bets and creating waves of money that push the odds too far every time someone breaks/ goes 0-30 down/ the injured person limps slightly/ injury time out is taken.

This is simply not fixed - A player like Simon has absolutely NO NEED to. Money? no. Huge risk? yes. There's your answer.

There've been quite a few matches in the past with far too high odds or huge prematch drifts that turned out to not be fixes later. From the top pf my head Koellerer-Ancic, Dabul-Soeda, Bammer-Azarenka, Schnyder-Dementieva.

Feel free to think it's fixed and put your bank on it. C'mon, easy free money.

What is he doing

they have been out there for 2hr and 20min... in 30 degrees celsius... dont think its a fix.

As I said, it doesnt have to be a match fix.

shame as last week what a load of rubbish from Simon can't hold on at all

utter joke and odds could have been had what am i doing on this match again

thank god this looks like the first game i read correctly today....so far, unless berlocq retires now?

Whats the chance Carlos blows it from here

What a loser Simon is

the market manipulation took place for 18 games in this match... wtf is betfair doing??? wasn't that so f... obvious... one set down fav simons... 3-3 on the second set and ooops fav berloq

still 1.08 LOL ?

Match point and still 1.06?!

And three match points at that.

no not again not again why me

Not to be trusted these two

didnt see that coming

I dont trust Berlocq at all after this match and the Nalbandian match.

i'm wondering the game is over... still 1,05 on brelocq?? :P

so did 653 void? or just suspend

ItRainsSometimes • February 28, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
they have been out there for 2hr and 20min... in 30 degrees celsius... dont think its a fix


A sensible post if ever I saw one...