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By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 25 21:32
I won't be after I bet on this
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 10 Dec 25 21:33
Rumour has it that trump is doing the Kings speech
By:
Cider
When: 10 Dec 25 21:48
If only!

There are a few notable missing actual runners.
By:
mjc56
When: 14 Dec 25 20:16
365: CTM 4/6, Speech 2/1
Fred: CTM 9/4, Speech 10/11

Massive arb or am I missing something. Both ‘Top’ programme based on ratings?
By:
bearcub
When: 14 Dec 25 20:26
365 are 7 day figures
everyone else is overnight figures
By:
bearcub
When: 14 Dec 25 20:27
CTM usually does much better on 7 day figs,
By:
mjc56
When: 14 Dec 25 20:29
I see, thank you. Well they let me have some shrapnel on it and then cut it to 5/4
By:
mjc56
When: 14 Dec 25 20:44
My bet has got the speech cut to 11/10 and CTM pushed out to 9/10… so fill your boots with the 9/10 if you can get on bear
By:
bearcub
When: 14 Dec 25 21:01
I've no chance with that lot, but thanks
By:
Cider
When: 19 Dec 25 09:16
2024

Gavin & Stacey 12.32m

Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Fowl 9.38m

The King (BBC, ITV, BBC News and Sky News) 6.82m (not including other channels)

Call the Midwife 4.42m

EastEnders 4.39m

Doctor Who 4.11m

Strictly Come Dancing 4.05m

EastEnders 3.98m

Tiddler 3.23m

The Weakest Link 3.05m


Betfair really needs to list the animated kids' stuff scheduled for Christmas Day, + Gladiators.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Dec 25 09:17
By:
Cider
When: 19 Dec 25 14:35
fwiw Celebrity Gladiators seems the wrong price to me at 150/1. This was a bit of a surprise ratings hit when it was relaunched:

Gladiators, Ready? Viewers, Ready? Yes indeed as 8.7 million tune into launch of new series on the BBC to date
The highly anticipated return of Gladiators is now confirmed as the biggest launch for a new Entertainment series in 7 years*


The fist 'celebrity' one in 2024 had a 28-day consolidated viewing figure of 6.5M viewers. But it was broadcast in the summer.

Last year, on 7 day consolidated Christmas Day:
– Gavin & Stacey (BBC One, 9pm) 19.1 million
- Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Fowl (BBC One, 6.10pm) 16.3 million
– Call the Midwife (BBC One, 8pm) 7.6 million
– Doctor Who (BBC One, 5.10pm) 5.9 million

This year, on consolidated, CtM is 1.9 (7.6M ly) and The King 1.9 (no chance imo).

This is the type of family viewing that might appeal on Christmas Day. The runners on it aren't all terrible.

Joe Wicks MBE
Sam Thompson
Nicola Adams
Vogue Williams

Worth a speculative at that price.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Dec 25 14:38
fyi the viewing figs on relaunch were outstanding for this era of broadcast telly. I suppose it's a bit of harmless nostalgia that kids can also watch.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 25 16:30
The king need to sack him off. The previous one got much higher ratings
By:
Cider
When: 19 Dec 25 16:47
Ha yes well it's been #awks for the royals this year too. Though he had a healthy lead over what's running again this year, in 2024. There is juice in the overnight market, and a surprise is quite possible.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Dec 25 16:50
Betfair needs to list The Scarecrows' Wedding and Shaun The Sheep.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Dec 25 18:26
Just void if they win :)
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 14:19
Yesterday:

ITV1-The Royal Variety Performance 2025 ≈ 3.4m (27.2%)

So only 12.5 million people in the whole country were counted as watching live tv, at 8pm the last Sunday before Christmas. According to barb.

The winner of Christmas day this year will quite likely be the lowest ever.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 22 Dec 25 14:55
Yeah. Sub 5 million looking likely
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 15:56
I've had a little dabble on Strictly Xmas special, mainly based on the fact that I and everyone else I know, would rather stick pins in our eyes than watching Charles bumbling away on Christmas day.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 22 Dec 25 16:03
If the result wasn't known I might have given it a chance.

Call the midwife is a popular show but I've no idea of
schedules etc that are obviously key to this.
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 17:45
It will have a solid base of fans who will watch it.
And my lad (who's 9) told me that there is something meme related happening, so somehow the word is flying round YouTube about something for the kids to somehow know about the Strictly Xmas special. Whatever it is could certainly help it get extra viewers.
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 18:28
It's the presenters' last broadcast one, though obviously it was filmed and in the can ages ago. I'm not massively keen, the thing has ended after a seemingly neverending marathon, though it has a chance. The king is the right favourite, but it does feel like it's vulnerable and could be a year where the usual dynamics shift again. The king's advantage is that it is very short, traditional appointment to view on bbc, and the public can be quite contrarian when it comes to the monarchy stuff.

Not much would totally surprise me outside of itv winning!
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 18:30
Runners added Cool
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 19:15
The monarchy's support is at an all time low now.
How long does someone need to view for it to be counted?
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 19:17
Betfair is settled on the overnight average.
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 19:18
I spose this is pretty much the only specials market these days with no insider corruption
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 22 Dec 25 19:40
Jungle was clean as a whistle. Somehow people thought backing Tom was a neat idea
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 19:49
I'm pretty sure most of the elims were dodgy. But I didn't watch any of the series until the last few episodes so could be wrong
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 20:44
Both EE and SCD have better timeslots than CTM this year, to me that feels like CTM shouldn't win on the overnight. Possible but it's invariably done much better on consolidated.

SCD was on at 3.55pm in 2024. Whilst that is a soft target for it this year, gives me hope for Gladiators. However, you'd prefer the SCD slot. SCD has a shot, Blobby.

The Wheel also has Matt Horne and Jo Page, may give it a bit of a boost, solid ratings usually and a lovely slot. It's quite interesting this year, so the king will win ha.
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 21:03
Which of them clashes with the big guest slot on Radio one, cos that's gonna lose 5 potential viewers from the pot Excited
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 21:06
No chance when the king of comedy is in town ;)
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 22 Dec 25 21:07
The highlight of your day :)
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 21:08
Responding to you is certainly down there.
By:
Cider
When: 24 Dec 25 13:17
How exciting to have this back. I'm a bit more involved than I was originally anticipating!

I do struggle to see why scd is bigger than ctm on the overnights. Sure, ctm is 1/2 hour shorter these days, but it didn't get a big boost for that last year. Bullseye is much more easy viewing, but untested on 25/12. Perhaps a little more critical is that the bbc schedule was shifted around a bit in 2024 to accommodate the one off big beasts. Below is 2023, when scd wasn't too far away from the king. The scd forever stats showed that its share has held up well this year.





Final post on this anyway, good luck if getting involved, and Merry Christmas (even to you, Bobby Wink )
By:
Bobbasauras
When: 24 Dec 25 15:39
Let's hope we both get a winner we both agree on tomorrow Cider Excited
Merry Xmas to all.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Dec 25 22:30
Irrelevant, but Amandaland was brilliant
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Dec 25 22:31
I doubt it has the audience to win yet, but same slot as last year's winner
By:
Cider
When: 26 Dec 25 00:10
So the news did 'win' Christmas Eve. At less than 2 million !
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