My fear was that such a tremendous betting market would be killed off like the TV one.
Dec 16, 2025 -- 9:55AM, Cider wrote:
All input welcome, army :)We can get a flavour for the missing data impact.Last weekUp to Monday 15539Wednesday 28816Friday (final) 42470This weekUp to Monday 17390So Wham jumped from 15539 to 28816 Mon to Wed, ie +13277. They averaged 6067 per day last week, in the additional missing data update they averaged 6638. Again, it's not an exact science, and the average per day in reality is tilted to the weekend. Now for me the interesting part is that Kylie is already on 24242. Wham last Wednesday (2 days later) was 28816 (including the missing weekend data).
That actually reinforces Kylie’s position.
Using last week’s Wham uplift makes sense, but the key point is timing: Kylie is already on 24.2k by Monday, whereas Wham only reached 28.8k by Wednesday last week after missing weekend data was added.
So Kylie is getting to comparable territory earlier in the week, which fits with sales-led and Amazon-heavy behaviour. Wham’s growth is more weekend-tilted, but there’s no obvious sign yet of a late-week surge strong enough to overturn that gap.
Race still live, but Kylie’s trajectory looks that of a leader rather than a chaser.
Good Luck cider, not sure you need it on this market though

Dec 16, 2025 -- 10:09AM, Cider wrote:
There's no late week surge as such. I can be quite confident where Wham is going to land. Apart from obviously the OCC estimation machine for Thursday Monday and Tuesday will be 'normal' days for Kylie as such. Front loaded physical sales already reported. Weekday streaming. And a bit of you tube. Needs to get as close to that 7k a day as possible.
I’m not convinced it’s purely front-loaded. Physicals helped early, but Kylie’s intent hasn’t dropped — Google Trends is still heavily Kylie-skewed this morning (around 80/20 nationally, 100/0 Wales), and the searches are transactional (“xmas kylie”, “kylie minogue xmas song”), which usually convert mid-week into downloads and Amazon streams.
Wham’s Spotify is huge but looks baked in rather than accelerating. Unless there’s a genuine late-week surge beyond the normal seasonal pattern, Kylie holding close to ~7k/day may be enough.
Dec 17, 2025 -- 2:49PM, Cider wrote:
You're ok if you want the £20 Limited Edition Zoetrope 12" Single
Cracking choon by boards of canada. Only right it'll be Xmas no1
why is it so got damn thin. Well done backers!
Dec 17, 2025 -- 7:33PM, Lifter wrote:
Looks like my Kylie backs never got matched why is it so got damn thin. Well done backers!
I feel your pain. This would have been a lovely winning market but the liquidity just wasn't there. Well played others who got involved and matched at the right times !