Josie of the jungle

How much have you unloaded from your original pick of Josie now then army?

My green on Josie was simply marvellous. I used to pop into the market every now and then just to gaze lovingly at it and it made me feel all cosy and warm.

Now, not so much.

Sam biggest, then Dani, josie 3rd biggest at Mo
the plan will be to level green them for the final week, depending on edits ofc
if sam gets the bullying story line, then he probably wins very easily

lol slippy, don't you trade on the edits ?

Not really Army, I'm just a part timer on these special markets really and I only got involved in this one as me and Nigel were mates at school.

I've got a very good book as things stand but I've only played a monkey or so and will win whatever happens but nowt to write home about, just a bit of light hearted fun to take my mind off other betting stuff.

Best of luck with your punts.

ok slippy, thanks. looks like im in for the slog to get my wage lol, far from done yet. Sam stretching clear over the next few days would make it easier to wrap this up though.

Personally think it's a mistake keeping Dani ahead of Josie as green - they're biding their time just to bring her home next week. Just little snippets every now and again enough to keep Josie ticking over.

I liked Dani and backed her first this year, but that was at 17.0 so not interested in current prices given what could go on with Sam and Josie as the title fight...

Josie is a classic case that it's never a good idea to take the eye off the ball in these things

I don't think either Josie's popularity or her centrality with ITV is going away anytime.

Sam could still pose a challenge, but I think he's the only one.

Doesn't take me long to shift stuff about stu lol i don't see josie getting upto much next few nights, she ain't going anywhere. its all about Sam while he's camp leader

Non of this means itv have to make josie win

All of it only suggests they will never go dirty on her

The thing with Sam is he has a story line, quite a big one in fact if they run with it..josie has nothing but laughing at herself

brushy is right, i have fainted...................

Sam most likely p1sses up in reality and all this girl talk is immaterial, they will need to do a lot of pushing and shoving for josie to get past him is my gut feeling.

She wouldn't have to win, true - but that's never been the ITV way before with their favourites and cherished ones. They get them to win usually.

Some of them were fairly painful to watch - e.g. Gino

For Sam to drift out now, he has to do something negative or not get shown...either looks highly unlikely, seems incapable of being unhappy or b1tchy, he's always shown coz he's a RTV pro and never shuts up.

So we either see him happy and fun, getting on with everyone or whoever he's talking to or sitting on. So the market loves him

or they show others being negative about him, which wins him sympathy

Sam's character, the way he acts its all gravy, its a win/win every edit.

I have Sam and Josie 50/50 on chances between them - certainly not so massively ahead for Sam

The rest are looking for crumbs from here on.

She wouldn't have to win, true - but that's never been the ITV way before with their favourites and cherished ones. They get them to win usually.

no one has ever been against competition like Sam before, this is a unique scenario. The reality is they can't get him beat as explained in previous post

Yep it's why I make him the only challenger.

josie simply isn't in Sam's league or can compete with him, without mega production help...even then not sure she wins

little Sam pepper had the beating josie lol ran rings around her

We will see, I suppose...

pepper even came in very very late and stole the show, probably why they seen him over. its not like josie had it in the bag before pepper arrived. too much laying about in bed

like i said earlier, the train is in for repairs stu...getting a turbo fitted coz its needed
not given up on her but its all uphill from here imo

Nothing has happened to her. Just Sam's army got him camp leader and the limelight in a spread out vote. Market suggesting this will translate to VTW too. Time will tell though. Will he romp home like Toff or splutter like Joey Essex?

essex contrived to feck, Sam far more likeable

Without a doubt. Sam is the best

lol

Nothing has changed IMO. All that's happened is Sam was made camp leader and market actually decided to watch the show.

I'm surprised in your lack of faith, Army. 4s for Josie is big

The driver is entitled to a rest after such a great 1st week, chill. all in hand

level green Josie and Sam again and i'm out, Dani back to small red, rest red

Josie had her bog standard edit last night, same old close ups, laughs, commentary and funny moment around dunny.
They really do go out of there way every single night to make sure these are included.

Thought Sam might get picked on a bit, but after thinking about it...if its only gentle b1tching, half the country is doing that anyway so won't have much affect. Needs to be full on bullying which is never gonna happen coz he's like an annoying little bro.

its tedious watching the market go back and forth so time to sit back and wait for payout

See you tomorrow army

i need my password wiped from my memory for 12 days lol

send it me, i'll change it and send you the new password in 12 days

lol

could you also double my greens

i'll trade them to nothing the rate im going that's why i need to stop lol
got 1500 a piece, could of had 2300 a piece when joise hit evens, then 1800 a piece when Sam hit evens but hey ho, no one ever knows the right time to exit. same happened in big brother, last half of series lost ground.

i'll go play some fruities to stop me getting bored

I wanted to be out and level green before the VTW starts anyway, coz if history repeats after the 1st vote the market will be soiled

balls that lasted long lol

i'm showing loyalty to my train and have gone back in on josie, she gets the sink every edit. weight issues not even mentioned yet and with only 3 women in there, even more female airtime up for grabs.

Sam may well end up getting a little to big for his boots, all i know is Josie never puts a foot wrong and keeps it fun without the banshee act.

Do you think sams odds shrunk in anticipation of him being picked on, and a sympathy vote. It still could happen frankie &a Fred are sort of gunning for him

loui

i still have sam 1000 green and josie 2100 i am gonna try my hardest to stop now coz josie will get the full works.

his odds shrunk coz of camp leader for starters, he went odds on the morning after coz there was a belief someone knew the vote was weighted heavily for him. maybe maybe not. either way it was a huge spilt vote with 3 alpha males, so odds on was a false reality imo.

frankie did have a snipe at him about holding hands with marvin for the trial, he is getting proper dirty looks from some of them, he may well be getting b1tched about but if so its not being shown. there is certainly a massive case for it but there is also a case he himself get a bit too c0cky.
its impossible to call as it stands but josie seems the far safer option, as she has no negative traits.
Sam is marmite and is getting on nerves inside and outside of the camp with every passing edit, which gives him a possible anti vote in a h2h.

he'll probably get the bullying/b1tching angle now ive sided with josie a bit more but its all a gamble, i'd like to think the prods want josie to win so may not want to help Sam.
as i said half the county are b1tching about him so how much help will he get from it ? it will need to be pretty bad coz most will say, thank god someone told him to shut up etc.

good luck anyway, all on the edit as usual.

Nov 28, 2023 -- 9:17PM, Lifter wrote:

Nothing has changed IMO. All that's happened is Sam was made camp leader and market actually decided to watch the show. I'm surprised in your lack of faith, Army. 4s for Josie is big

Hope you filled your boots at 4. Market is mad

THe 4.0 was incredibly huge a price for sure.

The 1st bump in the road as far as a positive edit for josie goes. They showed josie pulling a dissatisfied look when Fred mixed the meat with the rice.
What josie gas going for her is the expectation that she will be edited favourable, without that she is an also ran.

Don't think there's ever been a winner who hasn't had a single moment shot or comment that could be seen as negative - even those favoured like Tuffers and Gino had a few.

would be almost impossible to avoid, or make them less appealing perhaps without that.

She would never be an 'also ran' - she was very popular before doing anything on the show, so would always be a potential winner.

1st real test for josie tonight, i wonder if the public picked up on the spider comment that she don't like em

Josie.... you'll be joined by....sammy pepper's testicles!!!!

she'd squeeze those bad boys

she failed to beat the spiders, i'll restart the engine again as im keeping faith she can turn it around on the trial front and face her fears.
long long way to go yet and she will shine bright in reduced numbers, dani going out in 5th would help but can't see it

morning team, i'll perk you up a little

we got the fat card
josie needn't be that hard
coz we got the fat card
sam has used his card
but we got the fat card

cried over her kids and stood up to nasty fred and drifts

exited 4.4 to 4.8 earlier - her race has run

Being matched in the 7s now; that`s value for TCO, I`m on

ive not given up tim, still got my green but lets hope were not up against the in the know rats. she'll come good in the run in for sure

Been getting gradually worse, not better

nella leaving sooner would help, then dani lol

She's still my biggest green, so not looking to back here anymore, but would back her if new to this market for sure.

Army your 'last girl' strategy could still be real here...

yeah dani coming across really badly, just as VTW starts...bouncing around telling tales. all the greens sold up, thats the drift on her

There's a scenario where the insiders get burned again, backing the two at the front, just for Josie to overtake them both during the final voting sessions...

#clutchy :)

lol, yeh a bit - but with both the other two front runners medium green and her big green I'm happy to watch it play out.

This could be Andy v Jaque all over again though...I don't think either of the front two is that great that they are locks to beat the star ITV girl still...

As said on the other thread, the insiders haven't bunged her out to double figures - so they can see her still there...

insiders

on this morning earlier

They tore right into fred, showed all the worse bits of him barking orders at josie
obviously a MASSIVE ramp of josie smashing it from everyone, good bit from Ashley James saying how josie rescued her and put her up for 5 months.

kitchen sink rest of week from them

not one shred of evidence of insiders, so don't be fooled by the market

loose women doing the same number on Fred, backing josie all the way

Fred going tonight would be a massive statement from vast swathes of the public that they have josie's back, even a bottom two would be ok. I think she beats Sam all day long.

Fred is undermining every single mother with his treatment of joise 3 nights running, her price is quite fantastic. i hope your're very very green by now timothy

Had Sam max red, laid Bellew to leave both small red, so yes, Josie nicely green She`s been TCO since the beginning, and the ramping up, both on the show and across m5m, will only increase as we near the final. Insiders or not, we`ve only had one vote, which may well show who can`t win, but is kinda meaningless as regards picking the winner, (assuming there`s no Toff-like character romping the vote, which I think we can assume quite safely). Win lose or draw, Josie`s the value

Indeed tim - if there are insiders betting on the winner, they may well be doing a 'Jossa' mistake here - not noticing that she will pick up a lot of late votes, as the last girl there, and a very popular one at that.

4 straight days of abuse is working wonders for our Josie's chances, keep it up Fred

Josie now has a chance to get back on track now nella has gone, she wasn't doing her any favours but being the chef has always been a massive negative for nearly everyone.
soon to be released from this chore hopefully, then lets get dani out and we've got the scenario we wanted.

flippy on its way, market seeing sam/tony split vote and josie fishing on her own once dani is gone

dani out tomorrow would be a dream, settle for day after..leaves loads of airtime on her own.
fred going, nation said you can't be treating josie like that, yeah she's marmite but still see her making a run..only if dani leaves very soon

Tony, marvin and nick have trial tonight, bye bye dani

Were getting just what we wanted, Josie on her own hopefully

Fred got a right telling off by his mum, she was fumin with the way he treated Josie

interview on this morning, good man telling the viewers what a kooont he was

i really hope Josie don't get mixed up with Dani rejoicing and b1tching about Fred going, i have a bad feeling this could happen. still keeping my green in the hope that don't happen and she's on her own.

Dani reminds me of liv, plants seeds and watches it all go off, right fecking snake stirring the pot.
she needs to leave asap so josie can have fun with the rest, once dani goes it will be a far happier camp without b1tching.
well apart from nigel, but he's only telling the audience what an annoying tool Sam is

well she's on her own lol think she makes cyclone, marv gone tomorrow. plenty of women who hate men out there
girl power in a world of women comms on every sport

will they risk a 4 man cyclone in this woke world, god help em
josie show tomorrow night it is

josie didn't appear till 3 mins from lines closed and still made it through lol tomorrow will be the complete opposite

They will be doing all they can to get her into the final as they won't want an all male final show.

yes jack, could be two monster edits in a row..were heading back to single figs

Shocking show for josie by virtue of being absent from the edit, either she is worn-out and not giving them the material or they have given up on her.
If the previous b2 was true could  be out tomorrow

i reckon she was ill or sleeping, coz nowhere to be seen

no one can moan in two days when she's in the final, she's sat there at 30's or has been for ages.
welcome to woke UK
only a goon would ignore that especially at these odds

or maybe all you men on here are following joey barton

problem is everyone is sucked in by the farage cash, its as fake as the 3 b2's we've had, chances are the final will be sam, tony and josie

People simply don't like her anymore

oh dearm wrapped up in tweets are we lifter ? silly boy

you should have more faith in the real world

gotta love faith, i don't think there's much in it..i see our girl making the final

thanks fred