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tindall seems fun though
Nov 27, 2022 -- 9:00PM, Ramruma wrote:
Re fruit machines: this 15-minute video purporting to explain how they work went up on Youtube yesterday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EomDfEAIcC0
interesting, i'll watch that later or in morning. Let you know
Matt missing a huge trick by not breaking down in tears, thanking TGBP for forgiving him, he knows what an error it was, how sorry he is
Jim
Im sh1t scared of flying, even the tea cups spin me out...but it would be a great challenge, my speciality is games where you go around a board though, most of the games over there are boring games with lots of win lines. Pretty much what they have online and in bookies.
Its pubs that have the games i can beat, where skill is involved. The other games are pretty much unbeatable, completely random.
Thats actually the definition of fruit machines, they come under two categories.
1) Random - pretty much what it says, you can win jackpot on one press or it might take a thousand presses.
2) compensated - which is percentage driven, meaning once it hits tipping point it has to payout, i can get the percentage quicker than the average person by knowing the game inside out.
Army...
There is a great podcast I listen to called RISK OF RUIN all full of stories in the states that down the years have travelled the country working and hustling the slots, card counting etc, they explain through their stories the ups and downs of their existence and the angles they played...great characters great pod.
https://player.fm/series/2785233
Nov 27, 2022 -- 9:36PM, SuperSniper wrote:
Has the favourites odds ever been this low with 3 left? 1.13 seems very low
Think Andy was around 1.1 and he got beat. Don't know the exact price though
Nov 27, 2022 -- 9:43PM, Cider wrote:
What price would you take if you knew Jill was ahead before the reset?
1.02
ahorsewithnoname 11 Dec 17 09:57
Lowest & Highest matched for Georgia Toffolo (highs matched pre launch show)
1.02 £484
1.03 £38,963
1.04 £57,726
1.05 £27,981
1.06 £28,572
1.07 £38,484
1.08 £49,545
1.09 £53,067
1.10 £18,046
Not only that but I had a good stable book for the majority of the time, obviously with a few tweaks here and there but ended up quite nicely so as a newbie I'm glad I wasn't too far off the mark.
Would I do this again? I highly doubt it but it was a fun ride while it lasted and good to chat with folks on here who I didn't know previously.
Best of luck one and all.
Nov 27, 2022 -- 10:34PM, Libertine93 wrote:
Decent green but very undeserving winner IMO
agree, she was definitely marmite, she won based on the anti-matt vote
Evening everyone. Jill went to my school, so obviously she'd win!
Vote for third place:
Jill - 47.29%
Owen - 30.99%
Matt - 21.72%
Queen of the Jungle, final vote:
Jill - 57.66%
Owen - 42.34%
A lot closer than the market would have you believe.
Nov 28, 2022 -- 8:08AM, GeorgeBrush wrote:
Hi army. Who were you on?
Was saying i caught out in week 2 as well in Owen's good run of edits, Jill went 3.5 and should of covered then but was to involved in the Hancock hype. Olivia going made sure Jill got to the final, otherwise Britain would of gone to hell according to some. God forbid no women in the final, was hoping for the bigger drift on her but it never came. I seen the danger but never acted on it.
Good fun here though and i'd do it all again, i'd probably win if we could do it again lol
Owen's voiced was drowned out on SM by the Hancock bluster
Nov 27, 2022 -- 9:00PM, Ramruma wrote:
Re fruit machines: this 15-minute video purporting to explain how they work went up on Youtube yesterday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EomDfEAIcC0
Sounds like the travel reservations and ships in international waters have there own rules, bit like our fairgrounds by the sounds of it lol and my experience of them are the machines are set to the lowest percentage and your're lucky if they have a float inside. Tbh i've avoided them big time over the years as you can imagine even well run fairground arcades won't be very welcoming to the pro player.
'Each and every pull on a slot machine is a completely independent mathematical event, it is not influenced in anyway by what's happened up till that point'
Ok lets start here, and you have to remember UK and American machines are set up differently. Im not sure if there are any compensated machines outside of the UK, the definition above is how a 'random' machine is programmed.
A compensated fruit machine in the UK is definitely influenced by previous game play, so if its played very badly for a period of time, then that machines percentage will rise and rise over its setting of say 78% which most are set at around pubs. A lot higher for arcades btw, closer to 90%. If then i come along and play the machine correctly i will win very, very quickly.
A machine being played correctly will hover around its percentage of 78% and will be tougher to win out of.
As he points out nobody actually knows what the percentage is based on ?
So is it 78% of £100,000 or 78% of 100,000 plays or different amounts, this is the one thing that nobody has ever worked out or knows about. The machine returns 78% of what ?
As i have said and he mentions the percentage can go above and even below its setting of 78% depending how its been played. It goes above when generally played very badly for long periods. Its rare it goes under its percentage and it happens when you force a win that the machine didn't really want to give you. The machine would then go into a minus mode and play terribly until getting back to its standard 78%.
Random machines
Both here and America have random machines but i believe they are set up very differently.
He says they use a random number generator for each and every spin depending when you hit start.
So here on a random machine if you press start after 1 second from last spin it will land say cherry cherry melon, but say you press start after two seconds instead it will still give the cherry cherry melon. Im not certain on this, that's my guess but those rules would definitely apply to a compensated machine, as every spin is pre-determined.
What he's basically saying is the machines over there are not pre-determined and every spin no matter when you press start is determined by a random number generator. So if you hit start after 1 second you may get cherry cherry melon, but if you had waited 2 seconds the outcome would of been different, say melon cherry cherry. I actually never knew this so very interesting, I thought all machines every where were pre-dtermined and would give the same outcome no matter how long between each press.
It basically means random machines either here or there are virtually impossible to figure out a system to beat them, no matter how good you are on machines. Hence the reason pro's only target compensated machines. As far as i know and i know a lot of players from around the country, there has never been methods on random machines. Unless there is a serious flaw in the programming that is to allow you to manipulate it into paying all its money out, but that is a completely separate topic. Under normal playing conditions they are unbeatable. Hence the word 'random'
hope this helps
Nov 28, 2022 -- 12:47PM, Cider wrote:
Owen won the h2h. Almost certain that the alleged b2 at the last five was indeed fake.
Can you say for certain Owen won the hth? No, depends how many votes were cast in both sections
Nov 28, 2022 -- 12:05AM, GeorgeBrush wrote:
All good tim, just had to finish constant Betfairing due to the lack of liquidity, pc and my business demanding constant attention.
If the prods had continued with the 2nd week form Owen would have won. I guess he was just too grumpy with lack of food by week 3 so show him much
I guess the worry and big headache for prods was, Hancock was doing nothing to cast doubt and his support stayed strong, they had to focus on one who could definitely beat him, it does appear Owen was chosen but as you say Brushy, overcome with hunger he became a liability. They then had too discredit him so the voters would switch to Jill, so while shafting him Jill was getting all her one liners in and outfits made up for the game changing trial in the car.
Surely it was easier to get Jill over the line anyway, than bother with Owen...so maybe Jill wasn't 1st choice but could never risk the Hancock win so plan b was made.
All guesswork lol but makes sense to me
I suppose Dougie won being a bit dull but i do think generally the men really have to go some to get over the line in a series with a decent woman in.
I dunno probably talking rubbish, i like the psychology of big brother more.
Nov 29, 2022 -- 3:08PM, Lifter wrote:
Being "nice" is perhaps the number one trait to winning IAC. It's why putting a line through Boy George, Chris Moyles, etc... was so easy. I guess more women tend to have that trait. Someone can be super entertaining, but complain or bitch for 2 seconds, and their run is over.
You missed the Charlie brooks series then. :)
To be fair that was an outlier
I dislike most of the winners to be fair
which makes it slightly harder
