###Friday Grand Final CBB Winter 2017 All Your Questions Answered Live Thread"###

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Dodgy Dossier?

bbspy?

Tellymix
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/274775-celebrity-big-brother-2016-results-bear-won-just-1-voting-percentages.html

Luke is the best thing on this garbage show.

iirc I emailed them and asked them where they got it and they said off twatter

You don't have to believe them Bails

#twatted them

Why would anyone bear when they aren't on the official site?

Producers are gutted, they were planning for a Jedward win.

Close then
It would seem odd to make them up, but TM do post plenty of absolute crap just to drive traffic to their site

Its some kids in Macedonia making them up

I can guarantee they come direct from C5 press

prove it

No

GBP gave C5 a black eye tonight...

"And next we have the runners up closing the show" ...should have been Coleen and the Nolans

jedward should have won grumble grumble

Not sure I can survive 3 months of BB

They threw it away by dining with the devil H

Turned out Jedward was more marmite than Coleen

Feb 4, 2017 -- 12:05AM, five leaves left wrote:

They threw it away by dining with the devil H

but the whole house apart from kim made them feel unwelcome by bitching about them. gbp are cretins for not realising this.

She'd already beaten them in the Derby Trial...and she wasn't even peaking then

Best Derby Trial in CBB history too

I don't think she is marmite away from DS and sm. TVpolls had her at 3% as least liked

Feb 4, 2017 -- 12:06AM, George Bailey wrote:

Turned out Jedward was more marmite than Coleen

i don't think it was their negative vote. i think it was cos coleen was a surprise t2 (i know not a surprise to some on here but to most of us mortals) so all jedward voters had already shot their bolt but coleen supporters were rejuvenated.

Feb 4, 2017 -- 12:08AM, five leaves left wrote:

I don't think she is marmite away from DS and sm. TVpolls had her at 3% as least liked

yeah women always slag off other women in droves in posts. but tibb had her as not unliked as well as tvpolls

CBB19 2017 - Who is your LEAST FAVOURITE housemate? [Week 5 - Calum out]

      Nicola McLean     41.34 % (234)
      Kim Woodburn     19.08 % (108)
      Jedward     15.02 % (85)
      Bianca Gascoigne8.66 % (49)
      Coleen Nolan     7.95 % (45)
      James Cosmo     7.95 % (45)

Total votes: 566

Feb 4, 2017 -- 12:08AM, five leaves left wrote:

I don't think she is marmite away from DS and sm. TVpolls had her at 3% as least liked

Last time she was 38% or so first/second least liked and still finished second to Clary. When army posted that it made it easier to stick

You nailed it in your post the other night H
The type of people (mostly women) posting bile about Coleen hated her because she's a relatively normal (for a celeb) mother of 2

Of course having a low least liked polling doesn't mean you get a positive vote...it can mean apathy/indifference...look at Bianca and Cosmo

#Mr Cosmo

She was the most MEM of MEMs, the most MEM runner we`ve ever had, trying to attract an audience of MEMs, after 30 years of being most appealing to those same MEMs.

A `back to the rule book` CBB.

RIP sm

DM comments...twatter...facebook...you boys took one helluva beating

Where`s Spin? Think he was on at all prices as well.

I'd like to know who was aggressively laying her today and why. I suspect it was mainly final day casual punters following the polls and SM.

#aka mugs

Nobody mentioned insiders tonight...RIP Insiders

Laying her at 16.5 must have stung

2012 cbb cocozza 1.37 at close then lost to a loose women harridan

history repeats

It does I won on her too for similar reasons iirc

That was vintage Henry!

Strange, wasn`t it? Not just today and night, but all along there have been one or more keen layers. Particularly so when you bear in mind that most of the forum recognised her chances, and were backing her, yet her price stayed high. Don`t think anyone on here has declared themselves a big layer? Today, thoughts of insiders were crossing my mind, which only got worse as Bianca and Nicola left, and it began to look like the market `knew`. Really pleasing too see it was just business as normal in Specials; the market knows nothing!

Feb 3, 2017 -- 10:26PM, Spinoza's Ethic wrote:

That is quite splendid

Nuf said

I'm glad she didn't come in as I might have layed some off....makes up for not topping up ay 16s...if that makes sense?

Similarities with the Cocozza / Denise Walsh series abound.

Both young XF rejects who had revealed a hitherto unknown decent character and positivism in the series (but with flaws), both trading about the same price at close, both beaten by a middle aged Loose Woman who had shown vulnerability.

Yup spookily similar....other similarity were the relative odds both times

Feb 4, 2017 -- 12:35AM, George Bailey wrote:

Nobody mentioned insiders tonight...RIP Insiders

After that surprise Bianca T2 I'm really pleased that both the voting and markets seemed 100% OK today.

If only a few people knew what they were doing they could have made a killing still. Last season too many people knew which caused the £20k 1.2 Scotty T bets (from 3.0+ the start of the day). Clearly people falling over each other to pick up the free stuff.

So where did it go wrong for the insiders this time?

There weren`t any. Easy for some of us to start fearing such bogeymen and their skullduggery when the market`s gone mad, so I hereby officially propose that whatever the `Golden Rule No. 1 ` is/was, (GB2 will know), it should be replaced with `the market knows nothing`. Perhaps the most important rule for any would-be winner to remember. Have a post-it or something stuck to our screens, lest we ever forget.

I was fishing tim

Oh phuck, caught me nicely!

See new thread

Feb 4, 2017 -- 1:12AM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

If only a few people knew what they were doing they could have made a killing still. Last season too many people knew which caused the £20k 1.2 Scotty T bets (from 3.0+ the start of the day). Clearly people falling over each other to pick up the free stuff.

I did strongly naysay people's suspicions about the drop to odds-on at the time but without giving any personal info. A year has passed, less shy. 3/2/16 I had Tiffany and Steph green and Scotty red. The discrepancy was stupidly huge and I thought I had got it all wrong. So from then, when he was still 5s, to 1.87 at 5/2/16 I was his main backer, quite aggressively so.

I started backing him again at about 1.2 (I can't remember why). Nothing like a 20K bet though, so there probably were insiders at the end when he was odds-on, but by then at least there were more indications that he was going to win and he had lots of backers.

Bianca T2 is an odder one for me. If BB didn't mess with the vote tallies it could have been her management multi-voting.

Feb 4, 2017 -- 1:52AM, George Bailey wrote:

See new thread

Great thread George, thanks. Dunno if I'm up to contributing anything.

I'm sure you are Henry

Adrenaline after an exciting final always keeps me awake...but brain kicks in as well so can't complain I guess

Morning all

Mourning some

Henry! It was YOU!!!. i`ve had that market down as my most suspicious of all time, and I also seem to remember discussing it on more than one occasion, espousing a now discredited theory. Very pleased to be able to clear that one up in my head.

# see Golden Rule Number 4

Feb 4, 2017 -- 2:37AM, timbuctooth wrote:

Henry! It was YOU!!!. i`ve had that market down as my most suspicious of all time, and I also seem to remember discussing it on more than one occasion, espousing a now discredited theory. Very pleased to be able to clear that one up in my head.

Glad to assist. His rapid drop from about 1.87 to about 1.2 I did find suspicious. (Then at 1.2 there must have been some development that made me think he was value again, unusually as it's a horrible price),

Spin, not here all night? Finish OK?

Watching IRB 7s Tim.

Thanks, it was a monstrously pleasing result for me.

Henry, still can`t get over that revelation. Memories returning of posting the phrase `I shall go to my grave believing it was crooked`.

Good stuff, Spin; knew you`d been on a while, didn`t know if you`d stayed there.

What's IRB 7s? I'm watching a recording of Ken Dodd in The Good Old Days

I even released some sort of squeal when Coleen was announced winner. Mrs Spin said it was the first sign of emotion I've ever made when trading!

rugby. GB

I cried!

ah right...I'll stick to Ken Dodd

Cracked open a 1963 Dows

Feb 4, 2017 -- 2:57AM, Spinoza's Ethic wrote:

I even released some sort of squeal when Coleen was announced winner. Mrs Spin said it was the first sign of emotion I've ever made when trading!

If it was a loud squeal she'll know and want a new pair of shoes and a matching handbag

Even my typing ish shlurred

Feb 4, 2017 -- 2:51AM, timbuctooth wrote:

Henry, still can`t get over that revelation. Memories returning of posting the phrase `I shall go to my grave believing it was crooked`.

I remember having Tiff 5 figure green when she lost her witty, cute persona and started being lewd with an unfunny and artificial persona. Stephanie started to self destruct too iirc.

She wants (ie will) to go back to the Seychelles

Waled beat Fiji (19pt jollies)

Feb 4, 2017 -- 3:02AM, Spinoza's Ethic wrote:

She wants (ie will) to go back to the Seychelles

Does she sell seashells there?

not any longer

I found her in a truly giant conch

You have to expand on that!

Venus arising from the sea

I think this has gone quit far enough. She is actually Czech

Am I the only one sober?

Trying to formulate something for George's thread - "Don't watch the f'ing program. Instead bet on a hm's profile and prominence". That's obviously mad isn't it?

Lots of LOLs from Jedward and others, Coleen in the background smoking.

If so, why so, Tim?

Feb 4, 2017 -- 3:10AM, Spinoza's Ethic wrote:

I think this has gone quit far enough. She is actually Czech

Well at least yours won't bounce after tonight

Colleen could have been backed `on profile`, but she`s just fresh in the memory, almost seems to prove the theory. Not sure it holds up so well in general, but is a reminder of the power of the MEMs.

Feb 4, 2017 -- 3:11AM, Henry VIII wrote:

Trying to formulate something for George's thread - "Don't watch the f'ing program. Instead bet on a hm's profile and prominence". That's obviously mad isn't it? Lots of LOLs from Jedward and others, Coleen in the background smoking.

tut tut see Golden Rule 32

I don`t drink at all, Spin. You, usually the most erudite chap on here, seem to be having one or two problems with the spelling which, coming from you I`m finding amusing, picturing you half sozzled. And why not? Tonight was a good evening.

My apologies, Tim. Normal service will be returned within the week. Thank you for the compliment,

Presumably you have celebrated with a suitably enhanced carrot?

Indeed I have, particularly as each evictee was announced, and it wasn`t Colleen.

I almost forgot - congrats to you,,, and all your readers.

Thanks.

"I remember having Tiff 5 figure green when she lost her witty, cute persona and started being lewd with an unfunny and artificial persona. Stephanie started to self destruct too iirc."

I remember that series Henry (I was in a similar position) she was perfectly lined up to be the first black female winner (she had great edits). Then the edits suddenly turned against her (she must have done something off screen to really p**s off the producers).