***The $tephen Bear Bus***

Hello! I`m guessing they won`t do that, but it`s a fair point, do post again.

^^^to Goldie

Goldie, they won't do that, they never do that

If they do that it will be a double eviction of 2 dullards

They need a big eviction, they need a bear eviction

Even if he gets to the final he won't win. Even Whale smashed him in 1 of the votes, and Renee almost certainly beat him last week

If he got to a final 2, H2H he would probably still be trading around 4's because of the massive anti-vote he gets

tim shamelessly grooming a newbie

but things have moved on since then, does whale really have that many loyal supporters or was that a big anti-vote against the wild youths? i'm inclined to go with the latter.

Whale has no chance of getting top 4 in the show, he was the anti bear vote, and he has shot himself in the foot since

I agree Whale was an anti-vote but if the figs from the polling were to believed he smashed him

The 2% between 2 runners was likely to have been between Bear and Marnie, again that was poor considering Marnie was doing terrible and Bear should have been doing really well.

We've seen it time and again with the likes of Perez and Tiff that the viewers will save them much more than they're likely to vote for them to win

The fact that Bear struggles even in Save votes isn't a good sign

Correct

Thanks Jim

i disagree, bear is a completely different case to perez and tiffany and you can speculate about his vote to save but his support has continued to grow throughout the series. aside from bear and renee no one has really built up any kind of momentum from what i've seen so far, unless you can suggest others? if Bear gets to the final it's squeaky bum time for you and fig i reckon.

You're having a laugh Tom. Bear's support is/was paper thin, and is about mischief not winning the show. Well done with the train but this bus won't be reaching its destination.

fair enough if that's what you think Cider but this field looks pretty poor to me, unless you can suggest any other stand out contenders i'm turning the radio up on my Bear bus Bear bus

There's been some really poor winners of cbb down the years, very few win because they've been entertaining or strong contenders. I can think of Rika, Paddy, Denise, Jordan, Scotty T, Bez off the bat, sure there's been more.

they either had something about them (Paddy, Bez), had massive fanbases (Scotty T, Katie Price), did something of note in the house (Denise).

So who is the equivalent poor winner of this series?

Busey, Davidson, Shilpa won as they were perceived to be victimised/ostracized by the group. Nobody in that ballpark this series.

i'm open to having my opinion changed but you have to give me your argument for any alternatives to Bear

Ricky has the fanbase (comparatively speaking). Oops I nearly forgot, the nations' sweetheart (in her own mind) Sam

Ricky has done absolutely nothing of note this series and i think his fanbase is very questionable, he has 42K followers on twitter and he gets very low twitter mentions during each episode. he cannot do a scotty t or katie price with these numbers imo.

usually people's twitter followers grow throughout the show, 42K is really poor

Who do you think tops the vote tonight Tom?

It's a very poor field and if any "villain" is ever likely to win CBB then the ingredients are perfect for bear to triumph.

If he makes it to the final then a 6 way VTW may see him sneak it owing to motivation to vote and the anti-bear vote being equally distributed.

Very difficult series to decipher though and last nights show was a stinker for bear.At this stage it's difficult to argue with his current price.

Aug 19, 2016 -- 12:14PM, bearcub wrote:

Who do you think tops the vote tonight Tom?

bear or ricky

who do you think?

Ricky, easily

No chance in a vtw though imo. not done enough

so who do you think has done enough?

No one as of yet.

But I think Marnie has plenty to offer and being a young one won't be tired of it all

if lewis goes tonight i think marnie could come back into contention, she needs him gone

Correct Tom

I'd say he was 1.02 to go before the final

he has been a bit of a weasle though, sneaking through a few evictions. i think he has supporters and i wouldn't be surprised if he gets more votes than sam tonight.

*our sam

*my sam

not your sam

my sam

Possible he beats Whale, not sure he can get above Sam

Sam being the only female tonight probably just gives her enough

Aug 19, 2016 -- 12:15PM, hemsby wrote:

It's a very poor field and if any "villain" is ever likely to win CBB then the ingredients are perfect for bear to triumph.If he makes it to the final then a 6 way VTW may see him sneak it owing to motivation to vote and the anti-bear vote being equally distributed.Very difficult series to decipher though and last nights show was a stinker for bear.At this stage it's difficult to argue with his current price.

Even if he was able to lead the 6 way vote, I don't see how he would have a big enough lead to stay in front to the final close.

It's not as simple and as straight forward as 'anyone but bear' imv, it won't be an equal spread. We've potentially got 3 Americans, plus bear, leaving 2 if they all make it. Katie who? Nobody is voting for her if she finals.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1641556/celebrity-big-brother-star-stephen-bears-family-slam-fraud-and-fake-lillie-lexie-gregg-and-claim-he-tried-to-dump-her-before-the-show/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunNewspaper-_-20160819-_-Showbiz&TV-_-549304545

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1635030/chloe-khan-is-pleased-stephen-bear-had-sad-confrontation-with-ex-girlfriend-in-celebrity-big-brother-house/

Can`t believe I`m writing this, but flexibility`s the key, and all that!

Spent ages today looking up and down the list, but just couldn`t find our winner. Looked some more, but still no good, so didn`t do anything. Took Ricky max red a while back, but the laying of others had reduced that away, and I stopped laying him the longer it went without a clear challenger.

Value`s king, though, so all change for me tonight; Ricky max red again, which has involved SHOCK HORROR!) bringing Bear green. (Still can`t believe I`m writing this!). He`s no Helen Woods, yet the stitch up is following a similar route, and he has a week to follow her path. I really really don`t want him to win but, if you`re taking on odds-on shots, you have to have green somewhere!

Welcome Tim, you will be treated like a king, 4 hand picked Bear bus babes are on the top deck waiting for you. Enjoy

I can see both sides of the arguments, my book is neutral waiting for some more clues.
I have Frankie as a back to lay, I think he gets a good show tomorrow, Renee on the HS and Ricky on the HS for top male.
apart from that I'm in a holding pattern until things are clearer, Waiting isn't so bad, I'm confident I get value before the market has worked it out.

do these babes have real t1ts or plastic ones, tis an important consideration imo

All aboard the Bear to win bus

There we go, finally he's finally traded solidly in the 2s as a couple of us predicted. I probably dislike Bear as a person more than most do btw but the hard effort to remain detached is necessary.

well played those on the bear bus, especially the driver

i am clueless about what will happen but i think last night's show was back to being what the rest of the series has been; bear being a windup, renee unable to cope with him and becoming a little deranged, ricky doing sweet fa apart from a bit of seething, the rest largely irrelevant.

he seems to have survived flopping the redemption arc but may not need redemption to win anyway.

in a field of non triers at least the joker has provided some entertainment, as vile as he has been.

Mind your step there bear, you might just fall through the back door before Friday

trouble is, do they want a complete bore in rickit winning, so what if he's c0cky, most deserving ever as jason was

i always say this, who has the most multi-vote potential - bear or ricky, the fish catcher ofc

He`s been an awful phucker again last night, disgusted the house, undone the last few days` good work with social media going mental over him glassing Sam, and a huge outcry over C5 rigg1ng his victory which is even all over the press. He`s blown it, he`d be a real feel-bad winner, alienating untold numbers of lifelong fans. Do C5 really feel he`s worth the effort? Hasn`t he shown all there is to him, we don`t need any more, win or lose C5 can still give him his spin-off show.
I wouldn`t put it beyond the realms that C5 actually realise that the best publicity route they could take now is to evict him. Yes, just two days before the final, I`d love it!.
All in all, circumstances have changed again, so my book has too; taken my profit, he`s now my only max red. Even if only for a couple of days, it didn`t seem right having such a nightmare green, feeling much better now.

He`s phucked! The spoiler has all of his worst bits in, and the HMs reminding the GBP why he would be a terrible winner. Yet another food-related warning for him, what happened to the `FINAL!` warning he was given a few days ago? Social media storm tonight, he`s blown it, and it really is a case of `anybody, ANYBODY but that nobody!` Bail, hugely gratefully to be able to at these prices.

They always edit it to make him look like just a prankster though. I think they want him there on Friday. I doubt they care if he wins or not but as he's a regular in the other Viacom show Ex on the Beach they can't show him for the psycho that he is, but just a harmless misunderstood lad.

With so little time to go, it's not as if Ch5 has much to lose by throwing him under his own bus - and a lot more to gain. Even if they don't eject him, the chances of a stitch up are still very good. Same conclusion for me, jump off. Bear barge, bear barge, etc

some top de-ramping here by timbuctooth, clearly desperate for a market shift.

Well done bear backers

My `top deramping` doesn`t seem to be working, Goldie, 2.14 when I posted, 2.1 now! Never mind, in such moments of darkness I reassure myself with the knowledge that the market`s always wrong, frequently returning to my favourite explanation;

mach 01 Nov 15 00:18
my book is just anticipating as yet unseen moves

tom you put him up at about 20, he's now odds on.

it was a great call and you were the first to see his potential, no wonder you are 1.01 to be the next foty.

whatever happens congratulations on a magnificent call.

chicken dinners til christmas for you

It might have been that "de-ramping" that pushed Bear briefly up to 2.6 just before 1pm for large amounts. Did anybody else grab some? I was just lucky to be looking at the screen at that time.

Only bet I've had was laying Lewis and backing Bear in the 20s, win lose or draw, feeling rather smug.

It's embarrassing

Draw no bet

Farage dodged a bullet.

Last price matched 1.52, bear layers in blind panic with no way out...

Will Emma be the saviour, and utter those words, "only 2% between the top 3", then market in state of frenzy

The Tellymix page has four main pictures at the top, three of which show somebody; Bear is in 66% of them
Scroll down, and there are three sub-headings in which a HM is named; Bear is 100% of them
On the C5 page, excluding the group photos, of the three top VTs, Bear`s the `star` of 66^ of them.

North Korean levels of brainwashing.

If the casual viewers vote in large numbers then Bear won't be winning, but that is the great imponderable.

Any evidence that the casual voters like him less than the fans Jack?

Tom, before we know the final outcome, let me just say how right you were, and how wrong I was, whether he wins or loses tonight. You may remember I posted my thoughts on your having started this train when Bear was about 13.0,, and it`s turned out to be the worst of my bad calls this series. Lashings of humble pie, well done.

Just my personal view. I'm guessing most decent people think he's a koont and would rather not see him win. Will they be motivated to actually vote though is the big question?

Great call/train Tom

Jack a lot of people live in the real world and don't see what all the fuss has been about

I hope he wins, it's been the rankest line up for entertainment ever. C5 would have a massive legal payout for boring people to death without Bear.

He aint a patch on helen or marc as a baddy either, he's just found the ego's in here who take everything far too seriously an easy touch to wind up at the slightest thing.

No Financial interst BTW

so gl anyone who has and a great shout by the OP.

*interest

That probably depends on the class of people and the circles you mix with. The degenerates in society probably love him. People with manners and standards dislike his behaviour.

bad manners what like gobbing in someones food or nasically saying someone should be whacked if they play up a bit.

yes much more rounded people to side with.

I appreciate good manners, i also remember what it was like to have a bit of banter when younger.i also realize how far up their own ar$es some of these celebs are that they have to fly off the handle with the slightest quips or clowning around in their direction.

You know nothing about me but if you honestly think Bear is a bad person you have seen nothing.

He's not the type of person I would choose to mix with and I have met many of his kind over the years.

People are getting well paid and can't handle being wound up for a couple of weeks acting as though they've been through hell they are so far away from what a real crisis is it's highly amusing.

Bear is immature but a lot of it has been calculated to bring these boring fence sitters out of their shells rather than sitting around robotic like not wanting to say anything that may be controversial or cause someone to put them up.

In the grand scheme of thing's anyone labelling this sort of behaviour as vile or evil need to get some perspective in their life.

Bear is immature, renee at 48, I've never seen such complete over reaction from someone this age consistently in my life.

Of course I can only judge what's been shown but seriously she has major issues.

"He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
Congrats Tom, good call to take the Bear bus out for a ride.

stridingedge. Bear hasn't calculated to bring boring fence sitters out of their shells. He has done the opposite by disrupting anything they have tried to do. Making everything about him. Destroying items that credit anybody else.
Looks like C5 want to down grade the show and they have found their audience. Luckily it is a minority in society.

Disrupting anything they tried to do, i must have missed all these wonderful things.

I think a lot of society would take a large pay cheque for 2 weeks being around an immature clown, i certainly would but then again i don't have an ego that can't handle the slightest knock to it.

Sam Fox in her eyes is the nations sweat heart

The trouble is i saw her in Bar Wars, though actually I'm not sure she is the same Sam Fox. Listening to her this series you'd think butter wouldn't melt.

sweet

celebs being wound up by a tw@t for 4 weeks is not entertainment, I don't think it's what they signed up for, they were losers and so were the audience.

Striding how can you get so wound up about it without even having a financial interest in it? You'd be better served by Digital Spy Forum.

I normally enjoy CBB and look forward to the next one. I found this one boring as we weren't allowed to get to know anyone except Bear and I wouldn't have watched it without "being paid".

£96,759 for Bear at 1.49 lol. Gone now.

mach

I didn't expect to see full grown women losing their sh1t and basically saying someone should be whacked for fcuking around a bit. Perspective.

Renee is just keeping in character with her mobs wife persona, it's her bread and butter, put on for effect, you believe it

like you believe Bear isn't being a pantomime villain

he is a  pantomime villain, but also a coont

You have no idea what any of these are like in real life that's my point you can't say one is acting and another isn't.

I find it amusing that mob wives can be a tv show i presume surrounding real hardened crime at the top level and people are getting uptight about a character like Bear.

I just don't get it.

No perspective

wd

Tom_Ato

Well done Tommy

n1 tom

well done Tom (foty in waiting)

VWP Tom

Hope you won plenty,terrific call

wd Tom, No. 1 driver.

Well done all winners; obviously Tom primarily, with Henry and Gym also having remained steadfast throughout.
No more `newbie` talk from you now, Tom; you`ve got one train home more than most of us, lost your cherry with Bear!

Lovely stuff Tom

Great winner Tom, and other drivers of this one, well played.