*** BGT 2016 Beau Dermott - why she will win ***

Signs are that she’s TCO and she is really what the idea talent show is all about. Finding fresh British talent.

* the idea of this

I thought she excellent, though I wasn't that keen on her look

What signs that she's TCO are you talking about? other than the GB and 1st audition slot

I find Jasmine as a person far more likeable

GB and 1st audition slot is good enough. But also that she's brilliant, British, and Cowell has always wanted a child winner. One who has potential and will be an ambassador for BGT for many years.

I think her look is OK, still an innocent child who would be delighted at winning.

She's also very sweet in interview, not at all the brash stage school type.

my first impressions of beau were not so positive, while she is talented i found her unlikable the moment she opened her mouth to sing.

May 24, 2016 -- 4:46PM, Tom_Ato wrote:

my first impressions of beau were not so positive, while she is talented i found her unlikable the moment she opened her mouth to sing.

She was trying too hard, overdoing the emotion?

I think I know what you mean but I think she will be mainly loved by the average BGT audience member, who is less analytical than us.

She comes across well in this interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toWkZS-tqtU

LPM 7, 3rd favourite.

I tentatively agree with you Henry.  At 6/1 she'd be my pick as the best current value

Certainly from a trading point of view.  Slight spanner in the works is there another young girl at the head of the market.  Beau looks the safer pair of hands to me.

Annoying stage school kid. I prefer Jasmine. Seems far more DtE. Ofc it doesn't mean she won't trade lower with help from TPTB

Henry`s right, she`s a far better singer than the children we usually see on this. I think she still exudes innocence, not fabricated stage schooly at all, as we can clearly see from the moment she was Golden Buzzered; a face of pure delight. Forget comparisons with Jasmine,as she can`t sing. Previously accepted assumptions are there to be broken, so she`s a definite runner.

Bit like Faryl

be up near wayne's price this tomorrow after balance outshines her tomorrow

time*

I like the Kyrgyrystani dancers better myself

Kyrgyzstani even.  If you ever need a pointless answer make sure you now the capital

Obviously Richard should be well on side but here are some some interesting stats:

Number of judges giving standing ovation for Richard’s audition = 0
Number of judges giving standing ovation for Beau’s audition = 4

Number of judges giving standing ovation for Richard’s SF = this time they all stood up to shake his hand as they were right next to him but it was muted applause.
Number of judges giving standing ovation for Beau’s SF = we shall see tomorrow.

Richard audition YT views:   4,539,285
Beau audition YT views:   16,154,554

Cowell shook RJ's hand in a sort of well done. You've won mate, kind of way

I'm being serious Watch it H.

Job done was the vibe I got from Cowell

I bet ITV have a series lined up already

Virtually impossible for a magician to get a series nowadays. Even the spectacular ones.

I can see him on ITV 4

Doing adverts

For Daz

Thsee magicians all leave me cold. We know there`s no `magic` going on, it`s basically a con. Always the same theme; think of a number/name/card, all the rest of the act is down to presentational fluffy guff. If I want to be conned, I can go and play `Find the Lady`.

Given what passes as saturday night ITV entertainment shows these days, I can easily see them giving RJ a series

It bores me too tim. He still wins easily if they want him to. Which it seems they do

no one gets a series any more from any RTV

Gesty did

already famous

If ITV needed a magician for a series Raven would have won last year

I'd never heard of him

You're making yourself look silly fig, go to bed

Brushy has warmed up your side

I'm in bed

I hope you have feckin pygamas on

Brushy is out looking for ex RTV show contestants

not in the summer. Let it hang loose

BLOCKED

Can we please keep this tread for  Beau Dermott - why she will win, discussion

All you SM`ers; any word on VOX leaving/bring kicked out? I have them as my most likely springers, yet I`ve just had £8 matched at 1,000.

If fig want's to talk about his willy he should be able to

Thanks for your support bear. It's most welcome

Sorry, mach, fair point. I, and probably all, Beau backers were hoping Richard would do what every other magician has done; disappoint. It didn`t happen, and we may be in trouble.

They've been tweeting in the last hour Timothy, so they're still in it

Still crap though

I got 9p matched on Danny beard at 970

I missed loads of the acts tonight, just rewatched Khronos Agoria, miles better than Jack, would have made a better pimp
Cowel would not even put his hands together for Josh, what a coont

May 24, 2016 -- 10:20PM, five leaves left wrote:

Bit like Faryl

I’ve just worked out what you mean - Faryl Smith from 2008. She was a very different case but she may be the reason for Beau’s artificially high price.

That final was unusual for having two 12 year old sopranos singing classical songs, and close together in the RO, thus splitting their votes. She said that she underperformed due to terror she had because just before she performed she spilt a glass of water down her front and had to have it quickly dried with hair dryers.

She was also very rough and ready, nothing wrong with that but it meant her spoken voice was incongruous with her singing voice.

There was no official BGT YT channel in 2008 but the biggest clip I found of Faryl was her audition with just 350,000 views. Her competitors that year have clips with many millions of views. And Beau has 16 million, so is different gravy to Faryl.

I'm sure she had far more YT views of her audition than 350K. It went down a storm and why she went into the final as favourite. What you call 'rough and ready', I'd call far more down to earth and relatable, than the annoyingly precocious Beau.

I'd agree she underperformed in the final and the choir boy (again far more relatable than Beau) really upped his game to take 3rd.
Faryl may have taken 3rd with a better performance but was never winning

If there was another strong 12 year old this year singing in the same style as Beau she wouldn't win either.

youtube views of some of the top child acts on BGT

Bars & Melody  122 million. Won semi, 3rd in final

Natalie Okri  94 million.  3rd in Semi

Asanda Jezile  46 million.   3rd in semi, last in final

Ronan Parke   45 million.    won semi, 2nd in final when fav

Jesse McParland  40 million. 3rd in semi, wildcard, 8th in final

Bailey McConnell 25 million.  3rd in semi

Lauren Thalia  24 million.  5th in semi

Olivia Archibald 21 million.  3rd in semi

Jack Carroll 18 million. won semi, 2nd in Final

Robbie Firmin 18 million. Never got to semi's

Beau Dermott  16 million .   ? ? ? ?

orgasmic historical data

you can't say that

Which ones of those had a better voice than Beau?

Ronan Parke was good but lost to a better singer.

can't deny the facts she's bottom of some very poor form horses

Beau Dermott  16 million .   ? ? ? ? 2nd in semi - forgotten in final

If Beau had a better voice than any of them, then surely she would have more YT views than them?

It's shocking that she's only racked up 16 million and with a Golden Buzzer too

Were any of those TCO like Beau is? I don't know if any were or not but it's an important question.

Ronan was iirc, although in the final he was just given slot 6, and earlier than good looking Scottish Jai. And he still only just lost to Jai.

Order     Finished     Percentage     Artist     Act
1     7th     5.4%     Steven Hall     Comedy dancer
2     5th     7.7%     Michael Collings Singer/guitarist
3     9th     2.6%     Les Gibson     Impressionist
4     8th     3.5%     James Hobley     Contemporary dancer
5     6th     5.8%     Paul Gbegbaje     Pianist
6     2nd     26.7%     Ronan Parke     Singer
7     10th     2.0%     Jean Martyn     Organist
8     1st     29.1%     Jai McDowall     Singer
9     4th     8.4%     Razy Gogonea     Bodypopper
10     3rd     8.9%     New Bounce     Boy band

May 25, 2016 -- 2:55PM, bearcub wrote:

If Beau had a better voice than any of them, then surely she would have more YT views than them?It's shocking that she's only racked up 16 million and with a Golden Buzzer too

Her clip has only been up weeks and with no semi or final yet to motivate people to look back at the audition. The others have been up years.

FFS, boys! Fairly elementary oversight being made here, by ALL of you!

Beau, 16m, in a matter of a few WEEKS!!! The rest of those acts have had YEARS to achieve such numbers. 16m every few weeks for Beau will see her bleau past the rest of them sometime around the New Year.

Sorry, Henry, I`m too slow at typing.

May 25, 2016 -- 3:05PM, timbuctooth wrote:

FFS, boys! Fairly elementary oversight being made here, by ALL of you!Beau, 16m, in a matter of a few WEEKS!!! The rest of those acts have had YEARS to achieve such numbers. 16m every few weeks for Beau will see her bleau past the rest of them sometime around the New Year.

A few weeks is actually 7 weeks and it's been linked by various websites. Also Yt is vastly more popular now that it was just a few years ago with people watching on smart phones and the ability to access YT on normal tvs.

16 million is pants

You just repeating that she's TCO doesn't mean that she is.

I've seen nothing of her in the last few weeks, that's not the form of a chosen one

Monday, Wayne was on Lorraine before his semi
Tuesday, Richard was on GMTV before his semi
Wednesday, Danny was on Lorraine before his semi

why H, is beau TCO ?
we've only had the audition, i'd wait for simon's response tonight before making that assumption

bearcub 25 May 16 15:19 

I've seen nothing of her in the last few weeks, that's not the form of a chosen one


This is a most valid observation. Throw in the steamroller pimpimg of Richard, and the poor form of children over the years, and I`ve taken a little profit, down to 5.5.

May 25, 2016 -- 3:19PM, armagnac wrote:

why H, is beau TCO ?we've only had the audition, i'd wait for simon's response tonight before making that assumption

Yes, we'll know more tonight. And TCO is less important in BGT. They don't always get pimp if it isn't best for the show.

I'd say fwiw though she is TCO. Golden buzzer and week 1. She has also had a clip of her at the beginning of every audition week after her week 1 (just a second in week 5) and in the montages her clip is often the predominant one. Also her clips have uniquely sometimes featured made up newspaper headlines praising her.

ok, cheers but still waiting on simon.
almost certain the others fall into line
simon is the biggie

Interestingly Simon was the only judge that didn't give 100 VOG an SO in their SF so it will be interesting to see if Beau gets 4/4.

Kyrgyz fellas do me proud

Magician can't go off Fav lads! Stop it off and get your money into this market please ;)

She won the semi with what I thought was a poor song choice. So with a good song and pimp again...

After the Sun article exposing Richard has having copied a trick exactly from a magician on AGT they may not want such a winner as him. He didn't even bother changing the performance, which he could have done while keeping the same fundamental trick. That shows not just a lack of imagination but stupidity.

If he won then all the press would copy the Sun's article (with the usual accreditation of course) and this would damage the BGT brand. For this reason there is a possibility that he will be stuck in slot 2 and damned with faint praise. Before, I'd have had him in the penultimate slot, before Beau, but now there's a strong chance he won't be anywhere near that.

I dreamed a dream (Nap)

BTW she got her 4/4 SO and Simon saying she was what this show is all about etc so that finalises the debate about TCO.

May 26, 2016 -- 1:51PM, chepster wrote:

I dreamed a dream (Nap)

Could well be, she performs that superbly. Also Memory.

get a room

May 26, 2016 -- 1:57PM, armagnac wrote:

get a room

I hope you followed this thread Army. Anyone doing so should have fat greens on all of the contenders now. With the price plunge on Beau coupled with masses of liquidity.

nope, im redder than a baboons butt but im a gambler
very well done though H on another excellent trade, yes trade
she wins nowt

BGT is at Series 10 they don't want a singer for Series 10 it's not The X-factor.