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Corbyguy
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The Grand Final contenders

1. Belgium: What's The Pressure sung by Laura Tesoro
2. Czech Republic: I Stand sung by Gabriela Gunčíková
3. The Netherlands: Slow Down sung by Douwe Bob
4. Azerbaijan: Miracle sung by Samra
5. Hungary: Pioneer sung by Freddie
6. Italy: No Degree Of Separation sung by Francesca Michielin
7. Israel: Made Of Stars sung by Hovi Star
8. Bulgaria: If Love Was A Crime sung by Poli Genova
9. Sweden: If I Were Sorry sung by Frans
10. Germany: Ghost sung by Jamie-Lee
11. France: J'ai cherché sung by AMir
12. Poland: Color Of Your Life sung by Michał Szpak

Break

13. Australia: Sound Of Silence sung by Dami Im
14. Cyprus: Alter Ego sung by Minus One
15. Serbia: Goodbye (Shelter) sung by Sanja Vučić ZAA
16. Lithuania: I’ve Been Waiting For This Night sung by Donny Montell
17. Croatia: Lighthouse sung by Nina Kraljić
18. Russia: You Are The Only One sung by Sergey Lazarev
19. Spain: SayY ay! sung by Barei

Break

20. Latvia: Heartbeat sung by Justs
21. Ukraine: 1944 sung by Jamala
22. Malta: Walk On Water sung by Ira Losco
23. Georgia: Midnight Gold sung by Nika Kocharov and Young Georgian Lolitaz
24. Austria: Loin d'ici sung by ZOË
25. United Kingdom: You`re Not Alone sung by Joe & Jake
26. Armenia: LoveWave sung by Iveta Mukuchyan

Good luck to all.
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Report FredRescue May 15, 2016 12:08 AM BST
UK and Ireland

Public both voted Lithuania 1st and Poland 2nd ConfusedWink
Report bearcub May 15, 2016 12:09 AM BST
Oz and russia won the semis
Report wisewords May 15, 2016 12:10 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:08PM, Tattcorner wrote:


Sorry if this is elsewhere, what was the low for Aussie and high for the winner in trading?


Australia

Report wisewords May 15, 2016 12:10 AM BST
1.06     £711         £2,728
1.07             £21,978
1.08     £4         £108,022
1.09             £52,033
1.10     £108         £53,063
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:10 AM BST
UK vote in English
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:11 AM BST
12 lithuania 10 poland 8 belgium 7 russia 6 australia 5 ukraine 4 spain 3 latvia 2 cyrus 1 sweden
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:11 AM BST
Belgium I understand...uk tweets loved them
Report elise May 15, 2016 12:12 AM BST
was that result above correct, aus / russia won the 2 semis?

ta
Report crete May 15, 2016 12:12 AM BST
10 for Poland haha
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:12 AM BST
Thanks GB, do you have a link?
Report siwaadupa May 15, 2016 12:12 AM BST
UK voted for:
   "votesForCountry_audience": {
                "Lithuania": 12,
                "Poland": 10,
                "Bulgaria": 8,
                "Rumania": 7,
                "AU": 6,
                "UA": 5,
                "ES": 4,
                "LV": 3,
                "CY": 2,
                "SE": 1
            }
Hahahahaha iMigraion :)
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:13 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:12PM, Corbyguy wrote:


Thanks GB, do you have a link?


Cut and paste Corby from twitter...Danzaa's was making me dizzy Crazy

Report bearcub May 15, 2016 12:13 AM BST
Semi results
'
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/stockholm-2016/semi-final-1
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:14 AM BST
It will take me a year to work out whether betting on this is just like Russian Roulette or whether there is some method in the madness
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:15 AM BST
thanks bear, i cant find anything on the front page to a link it.
Report elise May 15, 2016 12:15 AM BST
cheers bc
Report Tattcorner May 15, 2016 12:16 AM BST
Thanks wisewords, looks like some fingers burnt.  What price did Ukraine go to?
Report scandanavian_haven May 15, 2016 12:17 AM BST
Is Australia back next year? or America? China? Japan?
Report bearcub May 15, 2016 12:17 AM BST
Theyre on wiki if the link dont work
.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2016
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:17 AM BST
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:18 AM BST
Good job there are no insiders or they would have got their fingers burnt after Oz beat Ukraine in the semi
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:19 AM BST
UK jury ranked Russia - 20    16    11    13    2    13
Report nite1965 May 15, 2016 12:20 AM BST
Who won semis?
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:20 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:19PM, Corbyguy wrote:


UK jury ranked Russia - 20

Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:21 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:20PM, nite1965 wrote:


Who won semis?


Russia won the first semi

Report nite1965 May 15, 2016 12:21 AM BST
How you know?
Report timbuctooth May 15, 2016 12:22 AM BST
After (proudly?) proclaiming my pathetic record at ESC on many occasions, I`m pleased to report a change in fortunes. I`ve finally cracked how to win at ESC!
1) Dutch lay joint favs at 1.25 a couple of hours before the final.Sit back and relax
2) Lay fav I/R at 1.43
3) Lay new fav at 1.13
4) Then back the winners at 20

Dismissed the winner a few days ago, but got lucky, biggest ever ESC win. Fair play to those who saw the appeal and won by applying a bit more skill to it!
Report bearcub May 15, 2016 12:22 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:21PM, nite1965 wrote:


How you know?


FFS Cry

Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:23 AM BST
Wink
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:23 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:21PM, nite1965 wrote:


How you know?


He's an insider

Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:25 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:21PM, nite1965 wrote:


How you know?


Grand Final: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=1893
First Semi: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=1883
Second Semi: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=1873

Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:27 AM BST
And for anyone wanting to know the individual rankings/placings of the countries 5 jurors see: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results and select from the drop down menu the results of the contest you want.
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:29 AM BST
Someone is going to get shot in Azerbaijan: 1 member ranked Armenia 19th the other 4 ranked it last in the grand final
Report BARNEY15C May 15, 2016 12:29 AM BST
Is Australia back next year? or America? China? Japan?

North Korea Devil
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:29 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:29PM, Corbyguy wrote:


Someone is going to get shot in Azerbaijan: 1 member ranked Armenia 19th the other 4 ranked it last in the grand final


I meant to say the jury in Armenia ranked Azerbaijan

Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:30 AM BST
George Bailey

Well at least we know all those hidden migrants in the UK are Lithuanian
________________

It's been a feature of our votes for years GB.  UK gave Lithuania a 12 in the SF in 2011 which basically got it to qualify. 

Check the points in recent times - hence my comment after the SF2 on Thursday that we'd have given 10 and 12 to Lithuania and Poland.  There once was a time UK was a big Greece points-giver but times are a changing!
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:30 AM BST
Australia may be back but they also may participate in the Asiavision contest that is going to be organised next year i think.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:30 AM BST
Thought it was free money when I got all the 6s+ Belgium top 10 in running I wanted...in fact started to doubt myself and backed off when the price didn't crash. Doing well on itunes and twitter but blimey it was close.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:33 AM BST
Yes honest but the numbers I posted above don't explain Lithuania.....they really must be motivated voters. Wonder if any countries release actual vote numbers or are they all kept secret? We know the BBC Stasi never reveal anything.
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:35 AM BST
GB if you want a break down of the split results for the UK jury and televote link here: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=2113&voter=GB
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:37 AM BST
Thanks Corby...UK jury votes a joke....was there no Ukraine train? Shocked
Report armagnac May 15, 2016 12:38 AM BST
didn't won, just an anti russia train
Report armagnac May 15, 2016 12:38 AM BST
need*
Report armagnac May 15, 2016 12:39 AM BST
stick with me kid and your win longterm
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:39 AM BST
BF settling in stages? Crazy
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:40 AM BST
One thing that could explain the Georgia votes from the jury is that Georgia due to technical difficulties got to perform 4 times last night with each performance having problems with camera angles, problem with the mirror effect, mike problems before they got the performance right.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:40 AM BST
Yes you got that one right army...couldn't see it myself but tbf I hardly listed to any this year just went by itunes
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:41 AM BST
Sympathy vote Corby? Laugh
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:41 AM BST
Yes honest but the numbers I posted above don't explain Lithuania.....they really must be motivated voters. Wonder if any countries release actual vote numbers or are they all kept secret? We know the BBC Stasi never reveal anything.

______________________

I think they are.  Must be to top my efforts which got Bulgaria the 8 points!!  Good job my Top 4 winnings on Bulgaria just about cover the phone I'll get next month from my repeat dialling!! 

Poli owes me!!  Love
Report scandanavian_haven May 15, 2016 12:41 AM BST
Australia discredits the event doesn't it?
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:41 AM BST
did ukraine sing in turkish if so then it could be the turkish dispora voting for it.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:43 AM BST
itunes picked up the Bulgaria move honest but odds a bit skimpy iirc
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:43 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:41PM, honestcl wrote:


Yes honest but the numbers I posted above don't explain Lithuania.....they really must be motivated voters. Wonder if any countries release actual vote numbers or are they all kept secret? We know the BBC Stasi never reveal anything. ______________________I think they are.  Must be to top my efforts which got Bulgaria the 8 points!!  Good job my Top 4 winnings on Bulgaria just about cover the phone I'll get next month from my repeat dialling!!  Poli owes me!! 


individual number of callers for the countries being voted i.e country x got 140,000 calls may not be revealed i think by the BBC.

Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:45 AM BST
scandanavian_haven

Australia discredits the event doesn't it?

_____

Because they take it seriously and are members of the EBU I quite like it.  They qualified fair and square through the semis and although I didn't particularly care for the song, the non-European thing doesn't bother me.

What I'd like to see is there be a guest spot that rotates each year.  I wouldn't have a problem with that either.   A bit like Copa America that invites two non-South American teams each time.
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:46 AM BST
Well i couldn't believe that the Norway jury give Sweden a big fat 0.
Report armagnac May 15, 2016 12:46 AM BST
glad to know the market was way way off
keeps me interested
good night
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:47 AM BST
Well its the first time i have ever known in the 5 years of betting on Eurovision on Betfair that the Odds On faveourite has got beat.
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:47 AM BST
good night army
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:47 AM BST
At least Armenia last year was about a genuine holocaust...Ukraine have plenty of blood on their hands
Report scandanavian_haven May 15, 2016 12:48 AM BST
Just seems bizarre that a non European country can enter, rotating does seem fairer at least.

Will probably have Brazil and Argentina playing in the football Euro's sooner or latter.
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:48 AM BST
Corbyguy

Well i couldn't believe that the Norway jury give Sweden a big fat 0.

______________

Thank God I didn't have any money sitting in my b w i n account.  They were offering 2.1 on Norway giving Sweden the 12.  Looks a shoe-in.  If I wasn't too lazy to go and get my debit card out of my coat I'd have lost a heap on that!!
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:49 AM BST
Norway televote may have gave Sweden 12 i will check.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:50 AM BST
Not often a specials winner doesn't have its own train....though that could be bollox?
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:50 AM BST
Norway televote gave lithuania 12, poland 10, australia 8 and sweden 7
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:52 AM BST
Corbyguy

Well its the first time i have ever known in the 5 years of betting on Eurovision on Betfair that the Odds On faveourite has got beat.

_________________

Happened to Russia last year as well.  They were 1.8 (or possibly even lower) during the voting

France 2011 tanked after trading in the low 2s

Armenia amazingly traded at close to 2.0 (possibly lower) two months before the 2014 contest

Denmark at 2.0 IR in 2010 contest voting.
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:53 AM BST
George Bailey

Not often a specials winner doesn't have its own train....though that could be bollox?

_____

Mans didn't have one last year either...which amazed me given it was the obvious winner from the moment the international juries anointed it at Melfest
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:54 AM BST
Backed Russia when Oz went 1.5ish expecting some kind of turnaround...got it half right Sad
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:54 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:52PM, honestcl wrote:


CorbyguyWell its the first time i have ever known in the 5 years of betting on Eurovision on Betfair that the Odds On faveourite has got beat._________________Happened to Russia last year as well.  They were 1.8 (or possibly even lower) during the votingFrance 2011 tanked after trading in the low 2s Armenia amazingly traded at close to 2.0 (possibly lower) two months before the 2014 contestDenmark at 2.0 IR in 2010 contest voting.


I meant to say before the start of the showing of the contest.

Report Henry VIII May 15, 2016 12:55 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:47PM, Corbyguy wrote:


Well its the first time i have ever known in the 5 years of betting on Eurovision on Betfair that the Odds On faveourite has got beat.


More unusual - 2 odds-on favs got beat tonight.

Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 12:56 AM BST
Ukraine still only 5th on itunes...strange night
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:57 AM BST
Well its been exciting. The first time ever i think that the winner did not win the jury vote or televote.
Report Henry VIII May 15, 2016 12:58 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:57PM, Corbyguy wrote:


Well its been exciting. The first time ever i think that the winner did not win the jury vote or televote.


It is.

They also didn't win their SF.

Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:58 AM BST
Great spot corby - hadn't noticed that
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 12:59 AM BST
I wonder if someone will now ask EBU to change the voting system again. I rather liked the voted this year. More exciting to watch.
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 12:59 AM BST
Gotta laugh

Last year there was a bit of fan outrage that Italy won the fan vote but didnt win.  This year Russia wins the fan vote but no one care because Russia are the baddies!  Laugh
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 1:02 AM BST
I wonder if Russia will participate next year in Ukraine i hope they do participate.
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 1:02 AM BST
Corbyguy

I wonder if someone will now ask EBU to change the voting system again. I rather liked the voted this year. More exciting to watch.

__________________

The Swedes introduced the douze points in 1975
The Swedes have now changed the system again

I think the only way they can 'Melfest' it even more is to ensure all broadcasts are done in Swedish regardless of which country hosts it!!
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:02 AM BST
Serbia finished 18th...that 1/2 lay top 10 was the value Sad
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 1:07 AM BST
George Bailey

Serbia finished 18th...that 1/2 lay top 10 was the value Sad

________

Agreed - considered laying at 1.6.  I bottled it simply because I though they'd hoover up the Balkan vote a-la 2012.
Report five leaves left May 15, 2016 1:10 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 6:56PM, George Bailey wrote:


Ukraine still only 5th on itunes...strange night


diaspora doesn't show up on itunes. They just vote

Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:10 AM BST
There record is pretty bad last few years...failed to qualify twice outside top 10 a few times...unloved on itunes...overthought it
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:12 AM BST

May 14, 2016 -- 7:10PM, five leaves left wrote:


May 15, 2016 -- 12:56AM, George Bailey wrote:Ukraine still only 5th on itunes...strange nightdiaspora doesn't show up on itunes. They just vote


Too easy to dismiss itunes...not as accurate as last year but worth it for Belgium and Bulgaria in running if nothing else

Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:15 AM BST
But purely on diaspora vote you are right
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 1:16 AM BST
I laid Belgium at 6 for Top 10.  A niggling annoyance having sneaked a nice win last year on Top 10 when I landed 9th & 10th spots.

This year backed Holland for Top 10 - finished 11th and then the reverse for Belgium

Really should invest the time into Top 10 more next year as I think that can yield a better return.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:22 AM BST
Yes top 10 a good market...I was playing catch up after backing France in o/r based on (too) early itune stats...won't happen again.

I'm sure that £450 up at 1.7 Belgium was there when they HAD to finish at least 10th....my finger froze over it
Report honestcl May 15, 2016 1:26 AM BST
Just casting my mind back over this decade and backing Ukraine Top 10 is like printing your own money.....apart from 2012 - the only year I backed them for Top 10!!  Crazy
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:28 AM BST
Belgium singing first spooked me a bit but itunes and twitter kept me strong...are there any stats re singing positions and final outcomes? Second worse than first I think?
Report timbuctooth May 15, 2016 1:46 AM BST
I believe second is considered the death slot. Norton mentioned it tonight.
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:48 AM BST
Yes it is...never had a winner
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:54 AM BST
Stats back nearly 20 years...Belgium punched well above its starting position

.http://www.escstats.com/     ...winner stats under basic stats link
Report George Bailey May 15, 2016 1:57 AM BST
Only 2 out of last 19 winners started less than 10th
Report Roger De Bris May 15, 2016 2:16 AM BST
There was a savage move for Ukraine on the 5th May 25/1 into 8/1.
Anyone work out the reason for this?
Great call by someone!
Report Roger De Bris May 15, 2016 2:18 AM BST
I talked myself out of that Serbia 1.6 Top 10 Lay.
Somebody mentioned diaspora etc...
I went with Poland instead and was counting my money when it hit 14.0 for Top 10 having laid at 7.0...Laugh
Report Cider May 15, 2016 2:24 AM BST
Serbia has a strong diaspora traditionally. Didn't work out this year!. The plunge on Ukraine was when the courtsiders got to see Ukraine's first rehearsal, ie the press centre on a live feed.
Report Roger De Bris May 15, 2016 2:29 AM BST
The big move for Australia 12th May 20/1>8/1 then 8/1>4/1 13th....
Report Cider May 15, 2016 2:31 AM BST
Dami had a terrific semi final, which she won in what's meant to be a sealed result. It's quite possible that news filtered into the markets...
Report Roger De Bris May 15, 2016 2:43 AM BST
Feel sorry for Dami. She was the star of the show for me...
Report timbuctooth May 15, 2016 2:59 AM BST
Petra and Mans were excellent, over the three nights.
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 3:03 PM BST
Esctraker for Itunes.

1. Ukraine
2. Sweden
3. Australia
4. Russia
5. Bulgaria
6. Poland
7. France
8. Belgium
9. Austria
10. Italy
Report Corbyguy May 15, 2016 3:04 PM BST
And the winner Ukraine came 9th in the OGAE Poll this year.
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