**OGAE betfair forum voting ESC 2016**

12   Sweden
10   France
8    Bulgaria
7    Germany
6    Australia
5    Greece
4    Belgium
3    Iceland
2    Croatia
1    San Marino

Here are my OGAE votes.

12 Belarus
10 Iceland
8 France
7 Azerbaijan
6 Bulgaria
5 Lithuania
4 Croatia
3 Albania
2 Ukraine
1 Italy

12 Italy
10 Ukraine
8 Sweden
7 Armenia
6 Bulgaria
5 Netherlands
4 France
3 Spain
2 Belgium
1 San Marino (the original version)

Ukraine 12
Italy 10
Croatia 9
Serbia 8
Latvia 7
Cyprus 6
Germany 5
Sweden 4
Macedonia 3
Spain 2
Israel 1

and 11 points to Lyrickal

I was going to start a Poli and her chipmunks train after the 1st 4 of us all put her in the top 5. Now she's not in your top 10 Tom I'm definitely going to start one

12. France
10. Bulgaria
8. Norway
7. Spain (thanks to fll for alerting me early and making this big green instead of the red I had briefly)
6. Ukraine
5. Iceland
4. Azerbaijan
3. Russia
2. Latvia
1. Cyprus

12 Armenia
10 Azerbaijan
8 Czech Republic
7 Serbia
6 Spain
5 Austria
4 Sweden
3 Russia
2 Netherlands
1 France
Germany
Croatia

I’m expecting some of mine not to even qualify, and my favourite 4 of this year didn’t even pass their nationals

I was intrigued by Corby's Belarus 12, so watched it and realised that it was one of the few I've never bothered to watch the official version of. It's not quite as disastrous as I remembered but the graphics backdrop looks like something his grandmother did on a Commodore 64.

Interesting Belarus fact: their broadcaster can't afford anything so Ivan is footing the bills himself.

He reminds me of Eduard from last year, who also footed his own bills

Song I’d like a lot more if singer wasn’t OTT: Serbia.
Song I’d like if singer was a soul voiced adult and not a squeaky voiced teenager: Belgium.
Songs I’d like a lot more if they didn’t have lazy, horrendous choruses: Australia; Malta; Croatia.

Mar 31, 2016 -- 10:53PM, bearcub wrote:

He reminds me of Eduard from last year, who also footed his own bills

Moldova, the other little ex Soviet that can't quite give up Stalinism. The boys even look alike. And buying their way in to an impoverished country's selection still produces something more interesting than the BBC can come up with.

BF can you put your clocks an hour forward please. Thank you.

Scores so far....

45.  France
42.  Ukraine
38.  Bulgaria
35.  Sweden
24.  Italy
21.  Iceland
21.  Azerbaijan
19.  Armenia
18.  Spain
17.  Germany
15.  Croatia
15.  Serbia
12.  Belarus
11.  Cyprus
9.   Latvia
8.   Norway
8.   Czech
7.   Netherlands
7.   Israel
6.   Australia
6.   Belgium
6.   Russia
5.   Greece
5.   Lithuania
5.   Austria
3.   Macedonia
3.   Albania
2.   Malta
2.   San Marino


ATM a lack of love for market leader Russia....Australia and Malta also doing poorly from the better fancied runners.

What does OGAE stand for, please? Onanists, gays and eunuchs?

Organisation Générale des Amateurs d'Eurovision

I had to google 'Onanist' 

Aah, French letters.

While I hated Michał Spaz, Poland "Color Of Your Life" because he defeated the probable ESC winner, it's actually quite good, even if old fashioned and not advancing ESC in any way.

His YT views (add up all the different iterations) are excellent and one of the best (still not a patch on "Cool Me Down" YT views).

The funny thing about this year that if Russia, for whatever as yet unknown reason, fails to get the winning votes there are quite a few that could sneak in.

If Russia draws 2nd half for the final then the price could well likely shorten. If Russia draws 1st half then the price could stay the same or drift slightly. The favourite for the last 2 years have drawn 1st half for the final so the odds look good for Russia drawing 2nd half but the odds are roughly 50/50 depending on how many slots for 1st and 2nd half are left in the pot when Russia draw after the semi final.

If Russia do draw 1st half then the organisers may not want to place it near Sweden their closest rivals in the betting so a 12 or 13 slot could be likely or if the organisers want to open the show with an uptempo number they could give the opening slot to Russia which will keep it faraway from Sweden as possible whilst in the first half. I doubt that the organisers will give Russia the opening slot as this could diminish their chance of winning unless of course they want to shaft Russia's chance of winning. The organisers could give Russia a 4 to 6 slot if they don't want to give Russia the opening slot or a slot later than Sweden if in first half.

Everyone will of course be watching the performance of Russia in the 1st semi final and if it is a brilliant performance then the price will likely shorten and if its not then the price will likely drift but the chance of Russia winning will of course come down to their performance and final draw number position in the final unless something else effects their chance.

I can't help chuckling every time I see him stomping around the stage like a little kid
I know there's the possibility of some fancy graphics which would make the performance look rather more contemporary, but nothing confirmed, I don't think.
atm the routine looks dated and ridiculous to me. Rather like Drip Drop from 2011

#2010

Corby, I don't normally read long posts. I've remembered why

bear

Safura's staging was worse, it was just bad. And she was nervous and in Slot 1. No chance of the fav being in Slot 1 now, they're always put on at the end of their half.

Favourite drawn in 1st half in final always gets a 10 to 13 slot.

Apr 1, 2016 -- 3:19PM, five leaves left wrote:

I can't help chuckling every time I see him stomping around the stage like a little kidI know there's the possibility of some fancy graphics which would make the performance look rather more contemporary, but nothing confirmed, I don't think.atm the routine looks dated and ridiculous to me. Rather like Drip Drop from 2011

Rumour has it that he will be going to perform and stage in the contest as the same in the video and if true then there will be overhead camera work and visual graphics on the flooring and projection screen with a female on stage early beginning with dancers towards the end.

Apr 1, 2016 -- 3:22PM, bearcub wrote:

Corby, I don't normally read long posts. I've remembered why

If you ever find that you get to sleep then give us a shout and i will read you a bedtime story.

find that you *can't get to sleep.

Apr 1, 2016 -- 4:59PM, Corbyguy wrote:

Apr  1, 2016 --  3:19PM, five leaves left wrote:I can't help chuckling every time I see him stomping around the stage like a little kidI know there's the possibility of some fancy graphics which would make the performance look rather more contemporary, but nothing confirmed, I don't think.atm the routine looks dated and ridiculous to me. Rather like Drip Drop from 2011Rumour has it that he will be going to perform and stage in the contest as the same in the video and if true then there will be overhead camera work and visual graphics on the flooring and projection screen with a female on stage early beginning with dancers towards the end.

Rumoured where corby?
He seems very keen on slightly camp, 90's style, 2nd rate boyband routines. I'm not sure why he'd change a winning formula

Its something i read from the comments on one of the forums i think it was from ESCforum so its just a rumour. When they reveal what their staging is going to be then we shall know. I have hopes for a SAGAPO routine myself.

I can't remember an act just copying their video. Maybe the rumours are true though. I wish Maraaya had copied their video Minus the air violinist
2002 before my time. I reckon Sergey has stolen some of their moves

12 Armenia
10 Bulgaria
08 Malta
07 Italy
06 Czech Republic
05 Poland
04 Serbia
03 Georgia
02 Croatia
01 Cyprus

Apr 1, 2016 -- 6:04PM, five leaves left wrote:

Apr  1, 2016 --  4:59PM, Corbyguy wrote:Apr  1, 2016 --  3:19PM, five leaves left wrote:I can't help chuckling every time I see him stomping around the stage like a little kidI know there's the possibility of some fancy graphics which would make the performance look rather more contemporary, but nothing confirmed, I don't think.atm the routine looks dated and ridiculous to me. Rather like Drip Drop from 2011Rumour has it that he will be going to perform and stage in the contest as the same in the video and if true then there will be overhead camera work and visual graphics on the flooring and projection screen with a female on stage early beginning with dancers towards the end.Rumoured where corby?He seems very keen on slightly camp, 90's style, 2nd rate boyband routines. I'm not sure why he'd change a winning formula

Yes it will probably just be an overhead bit at the start, if that. Something I've noticed tonight updating YT stats is that normally when something is mega in video form people flock to see the live version when it comes out. Russia's live version came out 5 days ago and has relatively few views, suggesting people don't like the staging.

His 90's nonsense does work for him in Russia but maybe doesn't cross borders.

12 Malta
10 Spain
8 Bulgaria
7 Azerbaijan
6 Serbia
5 Russia
4 Switzerland
3 Norway
2 Austria
1 Iceland

Welcome, THF. A pleasing list, do come again.

12 France
10 Czech Republic
8  Armenia
7  Netherlands
6  Azerbaijan
5  Spain
4  Bulgaria
3  Russia
2  Australia
1  Italy

Latest standings.....

60. Bulgaria
57. France
42. Ukraine
39. Armenia
35. Sweden
34. Azerbaijan
33. Spain
32. Italy
25. Serbia
24. Czech
22. Iceland
22. Malta
17. Germany
17. Croatia
14. Russia
14. Netherlands
12. Belarus
12. Cyprus
11. Norway
09. Latvia
08. Australia
07. Israel
07. Austria
06. Belgium
05. Greece
05. Lithuania
05. Poland
04. Switzerland
03. Macedonia
03. Albania
03. Georgia
02. San Marino

12 germany
10 France
8 Russia
7 spain
6 Belgium
5 Netherlands
4 Malta
3 Ukraine
2 Hungary
1 Bulgaria

Latest standings......

67. France
61. Bulgaria
45.  Ukraine
40. Spain
39. Armenia
35. Sweden
34. Azerbaijan
32. Italy
29. Germany
26. Malta
25. Serbia
24. Czech
22. Russia
22. Iceland
19. Netherlands
17. Croatia
12. Belarus
12. Cyprus
12. Belgium
11. Norway
09. Latvia
08. Australia
07. Israel
07. Austria
05. Greece
05. Lithuania
05. Poland
04. Switzerland
03. Macedonia
03. Albania
03. Georgia
02. San Marino
02. Hungary


Any more votes? Will finish this weekend.

12 Iceland
10 Bulgaria
8 Russia
7 Netherlands
6 Czech
5 Estonia
4 france
3 Poland
2 uk
1 serbia

What song are you keen on keen?

Russia will win henry, they are throwing loads of dosh at it, and with a guaranteed 100 pts headstart, in a year without a standout song, I don't see anything beating it.

I am dead nuts against Sweden, I will be laying it top 3, top 5 etc, a singer without personality.

if Iceland can qualify for the final, on the basis of the visual presentation and that it may stick out in the public memory, I think it has legs to finish in the top ten and 4/1 is a fair punt.
Bulgaria with a late final draw should top ten as well. On the outright, France is hardest to figure out, it may struggle with a jury vote.

Always the same old people who don't post on threads like this

#Growsome****balls

I pretty much agree with Keen. As for France I doubt it will get a winning public vote either.

Well he has just posted. Don't mind the grumpy bear

This forum needs new blood. It's a ghost town of its former self. Of course most RTV has lost liquidity but ESC is still the biggy with enough for all.

Keen Leader....I remember him well.

Brilliant novice hurdler who probably would have won the Sun Alliance hurdle if he hadn't fell 2 out.

Get over it

Know I missed the deadline, but this would have been mine (personal as stated, not who I think will win necessarily):

12: Italy
10: Georgia (yep)
8:  Australia
7:  Russia
6:  France
5:  Serbia
4:  Bulgaria...*starting not care now though*....
3:  Poland
2:  Iceland
1:  (if have to) Armenia

I'll allow your vote stu strictly as a one-off

The final results of the Betfair OGAE Jury are as follows (in the event of ties I've awarded the higher score to my personal fav)

12.  France
10.  Bulgaria
08.  Ukraine
07.  Italy
06.  Spain
05.  Armenia
04.  Russia
03.  Iceland
02.  Sweden
01.  Azerbaijan


Proof if ever it was needed regarding the good taste of my fellow forumites

Thanks Hems

Henry VIII 31 Mar 16 22:32

I’m expecting some of mine not to even qualify, and my favourite 4 of this year didn’t even pass their nationals

Good point, re our personal taste. My favourite song this year was third in it's National final in Finland...

Decent result for Betfair OGAE .....5 of our Top 7 actually finished in the Top 7.

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