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CLYDEBANK29
24 May 15 00:06
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Anyone on Austria to finish last needs to ring them up.  They've settled as a dead heat but Austria were officially last.
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Report CLYDEBANK29 May 24, 2015 12:19 AM BST
Since the market has been settled I can't check their rules but I imagine it's on the official result
Report elise May 24, 2015 12:26 AM BST
it said competition rules apply in the event of a tie
Report bearcub May 24, 2015 12:32 AM BST
You've spelt incorrectly, incorrectly Plain
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 24, 2015 12:46 AM BST
that's the Anglo/Russian spelling bearcub.

yeah I've just seen that elise.  Had the window still open, so they they should resettle it when it's shown on the official website.  I just paused sky+ which showed Austria 27th and Germany 26th
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 24, 2015 1:04 AM BST
This has now been resettled.
Report bearcub May 24, 2015 1:10 AM BST
Skandal
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2015 1:19 AM BST
How did they decide Austria was last as both they and Germany got 0 points?

Surprised by Austria, I thought they were better than the 7 or so above them. Not last anyway. (I didn't actually see Austria tonight - coffee break)
Report Corbyguy May 24, 2015 1:28 AM BST
I would have thought that if it was a dead heat that they will both be classed as last place being as both countries did not score a point.
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 24, 2015 1:41 AM BST
I backed Lithuania and Poland mainly but also backed Austria Germany and Hungary for buttons.  Laid a few for buttons too.  Since I backed Austria in the 20s and 30s I really missed a trick there.  Austria last because they were further away from a point than Germany I imagine
Report five leaves left May 24, 2015 1:44 AM BST
0-0
Must have been a penalty shoot out
Report hemsby May 24, 2015 8:00 AM BST

May 24, 2015 -- 1:44AM, five leaves left wrote:


0-0Must have been a penalty shoot out


Laugh.......Bloody Germans winning on penalties again.

Report Henry VIII May 24, 2015 8:14 AM BST

May 24, 2015 -- 1:41AM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


I backed Lithuania and Poland mainly but also backed Austria Germany and Hungary for buttons.

Report Henry VIII May 24, 2015 8:16 AM BST
"Austria last because they were further away from a point than Germany I imagine"

Yeah of course, they'll have both received public votes and surely the odd jury point. The EBU want to be open, it would be good to get the phone vote numbers out of them.
Report Henry VIII May 24, 2015 9:17 AM BST
Austria don't like grey.

Rising like a phoenix last year to win, sleeping like a sloth this year to lose.
Report cjhornet May 24, 2015 2:33 PM BST
Actually Germany should be settled as last! The rules state that the country with the lowest draw number gets placed first in event of a tie which can't be split by most numvber of 12 points, then 10s etc etc
Report scampi May 25, 2015 11:17 AM BST
Austria had Home Field Advantage so Germany won on away goals rule (or no goals in this case) ;)
Report George Bailey May 25, 2015 11:26 AM BST

May 24, 2015 -- 2:33PM, cjhornet wrote:


Actually Germany should be settled as last! The rules state that the country with the lowest draw number gets placed first in event of a tie which can't be split by most numvber of 12 points, then 10s etc etc


Blimey imagine if Sweden beat Russia/Italy that way? I thought I read somewhere that pv trumped jury vote but that might relate to something else?

Report cjhornet May 25, 2015 1:19 PM BST
PV trumps jury when calculating an individual Nation's scores for the other participants. not when two countries tie on points.
Report George Bailey May 25, 2015 1:24 PM BST
Yeah that's right thanks
Report kerrieg May 25, 2015 4:17 PM BST
now been changed to germany officially last????
Report Henry VIII May 25, 2015 5:02 PM BST
Germany is last on the official site.
Report kerrieg May 25, 2015 5:03 PM BST
: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=full_voting_results_revealed_by_the_ebu
Report kerrieg May 25, 2015 5:04 PM BST
is it not just alphabetical order both didnt score?
Report hemsby May 25, 2015 5:04 PM BST
No new mattress Sad
Report Henry VIII May 25, 2015 5:19 PM BST
No, it says 27th. That's officially last.
Report Henry VIII May 25, 2015 5:21 PM BST
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/vienna-2015/about/grand-final
Report kerrieg May 25, 2015 5:25 PM BST
so hows last place decided?
Report betfair123 May 25, 2015 5:40 PM BST
running order in final
Report honestcl May 25, 2015 6:39 PM BST
hemsby

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Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 7:11 PM BST
what's happened?  results been changed but still showing Austria bottom here:

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=2083#Scoreboard
Report timbuctooth May 25, 2015 7:12 PM BST
I`ve got one going cheap. In fact, after Sweden, I`ve got loads of stuff going cheap, if anyone`s interested?
Report betfair123 May 25, 2015 7:12 PM BST
shows germany last there ^^
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 7:18 PM BST
•If there is a tie between two or more songs in the combined ranking between televotes and the jury, the song that obtain a better ranking from the televote will prevail over the other;
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 7:19 PM BST
the scoreboard shows Austria last on my computer
Report George Bailey May 25, 2015 7:20 PM BST

May 25, 2015 -- 7:18PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


•If there is a tie between two or more songs in the combined ranking between televotes and the jury, the song that obtain a better ranking from the televote will prevail over the other;


That's what I thought but cjhornet says it isn't this. Draw order didn't sound right to me.

Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 7:26 PM BST
As it happens the scoreboard is wrong.  Germany bt Austria in the televote.  Austria got 40 points and finished 13th with the juries!!
Report George Bailey May 25, 2015 7:27 PM BST
Crazy
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 7:28 PM BST
according to Wiki anyway, which could of course be wrong. Couldn't find it on the official site.  Italy won the televote comfortably!
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 10:16 PM BST
What's the chance they still charge me 40% premium charge on the winnings it turns out I didn't win on Austria?
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 10:38 PM BST
Hang on a minute.  Germany bt Austria on the televote so Austria finished last.
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 25, 2015 11:47 PM BST
Just for the record...

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=2083#Scoreboard ...Austria last

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=2083#The Participants  ...Austria last

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/vienna-2015/about/voting  ...confirmation Austria are last

Couldn't make this up
Report CLYDEBANK29 May 26, 2015 11:42 AM BST
They've changed it back again to showing Germany last now.  Appears it is the running order and not the televote that counts.  Oh well, just hope I haven't been charged premium charges on the winnings I never had.  Of all the weeks I could choose from to calculate premium charge this would be the last one I'd choose.  Got at least 5 partially settled markets in that lot.
Report honestcl May 26, 2015 1:04 PM BST
Re. the point about draw order - that subject came up on the ESC Insight podcast last week and that is indeed the rule but I think it applied to tangible points - not sure if they envisaged 0-0 when the rule was made given we hadn't had a 0 since 2003.
Report cjhornet May 29, 2015 2:13 PM BST
The rule states it applies to any other ties that can't be split by countback. So worth considering when placing a bet on last place next year, go for later order countries that may get 0 ;)
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