****The Voice Live I/R Final 2015 ****

Probably your best result this Millenium judging by your posts

A win is a win

Cheers chaps, Lucy 22-1 ew, but I don't recall where as yet!

Settled in full then Cider

Not the win part, obviously

Half stake at full price is right for this but, in golf eg, D/Hs are often more complicated, as you might have any number of players sharing three or four places.

Not on Lucy Tim, she was second

Sasha or Benny at DH rules

Are you sure, bear? What about on Stevie?

Betfair settled the 4th place market as void, they shouldn't have

No how can they pay dh, he was in the first 3 as he won

They can dh 3rd and 4th

If it was a horse race and the 3rd and 4th deadheated it doesn't affect the first 2

If you know who Sheldon Cooper is, you`ll understand

BAZINGA!!!

I'll Big Bang you in a minute

Making me type all that

Reports of much chortling chez tim are confirmed.


I think you know I`ve been an indie for 20-something years. This D/H issue has had me in many an argument with disgruntled punters who either really don`t grasp why they`re being paid less than they expect or, just as often, are simply trying it on. In fact, this particular point has seen me expecting a left hook on more than one occasion, as some are so convinced I`m cheating them.

bearcub are u a voice entrepreneur

Found the bet, not settled yet.

I've no idea can

In every sense

Hi each way bets on Stevie and Lucy settled at full odds those on Emmanuel and Sasha half odds. So Stevie 8/1 and 8/5 Lucy would be 20/5 =4/1 so £5 each way Lucy 20/1 =£25.
Sasha each way at 16/1 becomes 16/5 but withy the dead heat 16/5 becomes 11/10, £10 @11/10 =£21.Or half stakes £10 ew 16/1 becomes £5ew @16/5 =£21.

I still don't get how she got beat...Daily Mail comments the same. Top rated:

In a short while I know I simply won't remember this winner however I definitely will remember Lucy as being the voice that should have won!

471 green arrows 65 red arrows

Though the audience got it right I guess

It's more surprising that you're surprised Bails You've been doing this long enough

I understand all the ticked boxes Cider but he came across like a desperate wannabee in the end. I'd like to see the actual votes. You reckon he'd still have won if Lucy had been the TCO? No reason at all why the BBC can't release the vote...how can you "embarrass" wannabees which is their excuse with the "stars" on SCD.

Lucy is a MUCH better singer than Katherine Jenkins and I have no doubt she will be the ultimate winner career wise. Perfect for Sound of Music in west end.

Tweet them your indignation Bails

I think I might...very cathartic

sign it, indignated from up North

But not North enough

I needed that

BBC can you explain why you won't release the actual votes tonight you arrogant viewer funded viewer despising scumbags? #thevoice @bbc

I don't think that tweet has enough eloquence to get a response Bails

I think most of us feel that she had Stevie punch-drunk on the ropes by the end. If true, perhaps the real surprise was that such an `obvious` winner was in such trouble, against an opera singer, of all things. I really would like to see the figures, did she come close? Was she ever leading? Or was the lack of an `it`s close` more telling than I had supposed?

Emu & Sasha could feel justifiably aggrieved. Lucy and Stevie had the best of the treatment, one could argue Lucy was treated most favourably.

Stevie gave people enough motivation to vote for him, that's all that matters. You're not going to be able to pick that up from social media. They're not voting for him because he is the best performer, they voted because they're motivated enough to have wanted him to win.

Apr 4, 2015 -- 11:29PM, bearcub wrote:

I don't think that tweet has enough eloquence to get a response Bails

I know what the response to a straight tweet would have been...exhausted that route. Plan B time.

I expect most people had decided who they were voting for before tonights show

At least in the case of Stevie

I know bear emoticomed me for this but I'll stick by my post a while back.....I don't go for the regional vote theory but this was the exception and if Stevie was a brummie Lucy would have p1ssed it.

Exactly bc, it could only be taken away by an exceptional performance (a la Diversity), or if it became embarrassing to vote for him.

Only myself to blame as it was clear days ago it was a two horse race and I had Lucy at decent odds and could have greened up at about evens in running. Usually I would have but everything I saw pointed one way. Not the end of the world though.

Tbf to Stevie his handling of social media has far exceeded anything we've seen by any contestant on any show

He may well have won if he was a mere Brummie

I doubt any of us could have advised him any better than who ever was guiding him

Its not knowing that p1sses me off. If he won by 20% fair do's. We'll never know.

Move on imo

No guarantee the figures Xfactor release are accurate. Knowing the %'s won't necessarily help in finding next years winner

To infinity and beyond

Just watched the Lucy/Will duet again, superb imo

Yes it was outstanding and Ricks and Stevies was just bad karaoke. Jim Shelley a bitch but sums it up really. Again comments support Lucy. Its very rare that a reality winner has so many saying they shouldn't have won. Usually it just feels "right". Don't feel that tonight.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3025953/It-wont-long-Stevie-McCrorie-work-Jim-Shelley.html

Tough.

Had to lose one eventually

That's 1.5% of my CBB winnings down the drain

Apr 4, 2015 -- 9:06PM, Jack Bauer '24' wrote:

Scottish fireman with a small child.

Eaxactly, how pathetic and sad it is when just cos hes a fireman and has a small child women vote in their droves no matter how his VOICE is, nothong wrong with women voting i drives for a fireman but this is suposed to be about the voice so these sad women ust have got so jealous at Lucys awesome classical singing that they made sure she didnt win, most of these women that voted would have been thickand chavs, most single with no hope in their lives except "fatasizing" and reality shows gives them that

oh well thats what ou get when relying on women to vote for the "real voice", i am seething!

Lucy was not only Beautiful but also a Class Classical singer

You must be a bloke

A bloke in a padded cell hopefully

Apr 5, 2015 -- 10:35PM, George Bailey wrote:

You must be a bloke

Of course im a Man, 100% all Man and i knwo exactly ow women work, nothing complicated about them

Can be a bugger to fix when they get punctured 

Apr 6, 2015 -- 12:10AM, bearcub wrote:

Can be a bugger to fix when they get punctured 

They mostly full of hot air so just put some hot air in, easy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxwbhkDjZM

Can't see it being cancelled next year given they were asking for people to audition. Odd that the Final got lowest viewing figures of the series according to Mirror. Still it got 6.3m average only a bit less than last year plus a higher % of audience share than last year's final.

Will complaining that twitter white noise didn't translate into votes is somewhat ironic coming from King Tweet. In the cold light of day it just looks like Lucy didn't do quite enough to motivate MEMs to pick up the phone...a woman needs to be blind or dowdy to have that effect it seems.

.http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/the-voice/the-voice-2015-winner-stevie-mccrories-lost-stars-goes-to-no1-on-itunes-but-will-i-am-isnt-happy/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I suspect that there's a few people on the board that also wishes Twitter was a reliable guide to actual voting

The most irritating thing is moaning about the winner after asking people to vote for their favourite. Isn't that the whole point of a PV? The producers already exert too much control over the result on these things.

FWIW the Lucy bet was settled at full place odds. Cheers chaps.

Odd that the Final got lowest viewing figures of the series

They lost a lot of viewers after Howard and Karis left

Will complaining that twitter white noise didn't translate into votes is somewhat ironic coming from King Tweet. In the cold light of day it just looks like Lucy didn't do quite enough to motivate MEMs to pick up the phone...a woman needs to be blind or dowdy to have that effect it seems.


Not sure that's true given the strictly results
Some poor song choices imo
No Surprises great for twitter and us on here but some dirge from Westlife, like You Raise me up, would have got her more votes. Plus a song the MEMs had heard on an ad

In the end though, with the Scots motivated, I doubt she could ever have beaten Stevie. She may well have beaten an English version

It would be fascinating to know the Scottish/Rest of the UK split in votes,to see if indeed as many of us suspect,the Scottish vote won it for Stevie.

Similar to yourself Fig,I think perhaps if Stevie was from say Barnsley,we may have had a different result......all speculation of course.

It was more than Stevie being a Scot imo, he was a Scot that they could be proud of. Especially with recent political history it was a massive bonus to his chances. Of course, they played the nationality card so heavily it will have cost him English votes potentially. But I'll take a Scottish hero any time in one of these events
The surprise to me is that I was his only cheerleader pretty much, given all of his advantages.
But if you backed Lucy @20-1 and laid off at evens, it's not much different to backing Stevie @10-1 and winning.
As it happens, after collecting all my bets I calculated that Lucy was the bigger winner.

I went to a betfred shop and was offered a tenner at 10/1 the rest @ 9/2

I was offered a fiver a cup of coffee and pointed in the direction of the FOBTS

I'm surprised they held the price until Sunday, Baldy is one of the books that usually cuts as soon as I've struck a bet. Along with Paddy, VC, Boyles and Coral.

he was a Scot that they could be proud of

That's the main point. Jai was a similar type and won despite Cowell doing his best to get him beat
Subo was loved more by the sentimental Americans than the Scots

As for opinion on here, I think we all rated his chances but the big prices went very quickly
I didn't realise baldie had held the 10/1 til Sunday. I doubt it was still there by the time I woke up

13.56 my bets timed at Fig, I think you could have managed it

The surprise to me was the extent the BBC helped him throughout the programme.....that was the part I certainly didn't envisage.The fact that he was Scottish,a fireman,quite good looking and a family man was obviously the perfect starting point....in fact you would be hard pushed to invent a better profile.However foretelling how media savvy he was,together with the programmes continued support for him (has anyone ever had the pimp slot in a semi-final and final before on a RTV show?.) was the unknown factor at the time of his audition.

Would he have won without the backing of the programme,plus the media onslaught north of the border ? Who knows....it's not inconcievable that he would have still triumphed given his impeccable qualifications,MOR singing and (faux) humbleness.

The 10s was huge, but I genuinely priced him up @evens after the first show. Which is well documented, however I'd better stop crowing soon

BGT is usually another profitable event, and you're only as good as your last winner

Bit early for me on a Sunday bear

fwiw brushy was very keen on his chances. Despite not watching he kept bloody texting me telling me he was a cert

That's when I backed him. After the 1st show. But only for peanuts

He text me saying he had no chance and othh said he was 3rd in the semi vote

Looking at his RO stats.....

Audition pimp slot Show 1 .....best possible position.

Battle Round ...penultimate slot,even though it was a relatively sub-standard battle.

KO round .... Mid position performance.

1/4 Final ....Last of Team Ricky to perform,and given Fast Pass.

Semi - Final --- Pimp slot

Final --  Pimp Slot

Wasn't he also left to last to be called safe in the phone vote, which would have motivated his voters

Feckin feckers

Semi and Final

Last to be called safe in Semi Final,Last to be called as in Final 2 in the final iirc.

Anyone would think they wanted him to win

Still well ahead on itunes chart

Stevie

In other news, Stevie in reverse gear on kworb. A day's strong sales will probably just be enough.

......I don't know who to believe know

*now

I estimate he will get around 6/7. But expect him to plummet on the chart from tonight onwards.

That will be fine

I'm sure he will shift enough cd's besides his itunes to comfortably get what's required

Let's hope so.

don't watch tv myself(espeacially these sickening reality talent shows)just saw the winner of the voice on the one show whilst over me mams...what a talented individual NOT, he's sure to sell at least 10 copies of his new single

Number 1 on itunes suggests you should do more homework

Stevie midweek #1

You lot really think he's going to sell anything beyond this post Voice wake

And his current sales are probably done by the BBC. It's easy enough to fake the odd temporary hit.

Long odds-on that he will never be heard of again as regards charting Henners. This is solely related to the t10 2015 markets that appeared post show.

His sales are not faked, but are already in terminal decline as predicted.

Stevie holding up well on iTunes I see

Will be interesting to see what position he does finish in, given he was midweek #1.

Stevie Top 10

JOT

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