Top Christmas Day TV 2014

lots of bookies still 100/1 if you think it has a chance now flf

I'll take my chance. If you can find a story so I can lay Corrie I'll be happy tho. It's the only one I haven't layed

Blimey! as low as 10/1 now

A Royal source told the Telegraph: "If the Queen was going to make a major announcement, she wouldn't do it in a pre-recorded speech that is shown in the South Pacific Commonwealth realms several hours before it is shown here.

"It would mean the end of her reign would officially be announced in Tuvalu, rather than in London. So no, it's not true."

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/palace-denies-queens-abdication-rumours-after-coral-bookmaker-suspends-betting-on-her-standing-down-in-christmas-speech-9931306.html

ah well, £17 down the drain

Must have been able to trade out for a nice profit. Someone just too 500 @ 8

Mark Time to check on my spuds

Oops wrong thread

Good spot cnman

lol at the rumour Nice trade tho.

With everything else going on, pretty much forgot about this market.

EE still quite short I see, no money buyers tho

Corals PR man due a bonus

I wonder what it was all about. If not Corals bullshing then maybe someone thinking that such a rumour might at least get people to tune into the Queen's speech to see if it was true or not.

Managed to lay off the Betfair part of my bet at 6/1 for a little profit

Xmas greetings to all, and come on Miranda

I hope the MBB late slot will hurt it's chances, any other bbc show would be fine.

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Eastenders            4.51    £50.00    £175.55
Miranda             8.07    £195.70    £1,382.67
Doctor Who            28    £7.00    £189.00
Call The Midwife    32.85    £7.00    £222.92

lay
Mrs Browns Boys        1.8    £99.79    £79.83

CTMW for me. not exactly confident but at the price it was worth a bet

Working on the principle

Miranda viewers will stay with her and not wait the 10 mins for Corrie
Eastenders has been dire for months with falling viewing figs So many may opt to watch Downton 'live'
If they're watching Downton they won't be watching MBB

Happy Xmas all

Hopefully we'll know the winner within an hour
Pretty sh1te tv last night and all week
Marvellous my highlight from last night. I missed it 1st time round. I was glad I caught the repeat. I loved it
Also love the Derek Christmas special

#loved

Yesterday I watched The Ten Commandments,Ben Hur,Noah,Miranda and Call The Midwife.....some under duress.

Had a small bet on Miranda.

MBB looks like the winner on 7.61M

Very low figures. Miranda peaked at 10.4. Let's hope betfair pay out on peaks

no chance, should be settled once official link is available

I heard it was peak

so did greg unfortunately

7.61m the lowest I can ever remember for Xmas Day highest, EE only 50,000 behind

John Plunkett ‏@johnplunkett149  7m7 minutes ago
Well, actually, if you add BBC1 and ITV together (was b'cast on both) Queen's message was number 1, with 7.8m #tvratings

ooooooh, I suspect it won't be settled as the winner though

settlement imminent

queen message the below applies:

In the case of shows which have more than one episode on Christmas Day, the highest figure of those episodes will count (and not an average or cumulative amount).

ahhhh shame

Where do you get these figures from?

it's not more than one episode though is it? it's the same episode. that message is to cover say if a soap is in two parts

https://twitter.com/tvratingsuk

Cheers.

These are not official BARB though?  How accurate are they?

MBB settled as the winner
Still not sure how Miranda can peak at 10.4M and yet average 6.6

hmm. pretty ambiguous in betfair's rules, doesn't mention if the same show is on more than one channel. ho hum

coz she's a koont fig, 15 seconds is enough for me before im frantically looking for the remote

as was 4 million other people

true. It really is dire. I laughed at MBB for the 2nd year

yep cnman rules should be slightly ammended for next year.

My argument would be...there was no mention of it on the rules, and it's exactly the same show. Also there should really have been Queen's Speech (BBC) and Queen's Speech (ITV) if they were gonna only settle it on the highest.

Anyway, my position on here was levelled up, but I suspect bookies will settle the same way

yes fig, MBB - the old gags are always the best

MBB is p1ss poor

Hills have paid out on Queen's Speech after I complained to them, hopefully Sky and Ladbrokes do the same thing

Well done mr cnman

Rob Dixon
‏@Reality_Rob
@DaveWholey @ravi_layer we are paying out on Queens Speech as a gesture of goodwill, money should be in the account shortly


Fair play Robster

I am ravi_layer fwiw

SkyBet also paid out (didn't prompt them), Lads settled as a loser.

I know other people are on with Coral/Victor and they haven't paid out

be.t356 haven't paid out anything yet the fookers.

saying they have to wait for official confirmation of the figures.

anyone else back with them been on to them ?

is their market settled on overnight figures? if not then i guess that's why they haven't settled yet

Anyone else backed Queens Speech on here and been settled as a loser, there is a rule about different episodes on same day but this is the same programme at same time...?

VC are settling on overnight figs from digital spy, looks like DS dont add viewing figs together

Dec 27, 2014 -- 10:35AM, againstthecrowd wrote:

Anyone else backed Queens Speech on here and been settled as a loser, there is a rule about different episodes on same day but this is the same programme at same time...?

I levelled up my queen's speech back on here, but had a tiny bit more green on it than the rest. I couldn't be bothered to raise it with them for the amount it was worth to me

I wasn't on with them but SJ and Victor have paid out now as well on Queen's Speech.

Leaves just Coral and Ladbrokes left out of the traditional bookmakers I think

Did BF include itv+1 and ch4+1 in the figures, if so the queens speech should be included imo, if not seems the right decision.

I would personally lose out if it was settled like this, but if TQS was only listed once, and the individual channel was not distinguished/specified, then the combined figures should be used. My understanding is that it's exactly the same show broadcast, and they take turns to produce it. BBC, ITV and Sky? It's not like a World cup Final or a Royal Wedding for example, which are different productions of the same event.

Planning starts early with The Queen's choice of a theme which she wishes to address. Appropriate footage is then filmed during various public engagements - and occasionally private events - during the remainder of the year. Since 1997, the BBC and ITV have alternated in filming and producing the Broadcast every two years

Dec 27, 2014 -- 3:35PM, mach wrote:

Did BF include itv+1 and ch4+1 in the figures, if so the queens speech should be included imo, if not seems the right decision.

Difference is that those are repeats rather than simulcasts which is quite different (i.e. in theory with repeats the same person could be watching it twice, but not really with simulcast).

Think it is a very difficult and unique situation though and especially tough for betfair compared to normal bookmakers.

And yeah it is exactly the same show Cider, produced this year by BBC

I don't really know what 365 are waiting for. The official overnights have been released. It's the interpretation of the results that is open to question.

This market always a nightmare - after my previous experience glad I did'nt play it this year (or last either). Rules from BF are always ridiculously badly stated, and they don't admit any liability for that. Avoid this market in future IMO.

Barring a few bob years ago never participated...as you say the rules are what they say they are.

arbers beware

goonjim 27 Dec 14 01:25 Joined: 07 May 11 | Topic/replies: 236 | Blogger: goonjim's blog
is their market settled on overnight figures? if not
then i guess that's why they haven't settled yet


It's like getting blood out of a stone,,
they are saying they are waiting for the official BARB figures.
But they dont know when these will be released or when they will settle the market.

In fairness l have always found them to be good prior to this but will never bet on a market like this with them again.

official figures are usually about a fortnight i believe

The thing is, Overnights are official figures.

Consolidated data incorporates playback of time-shifted content within 7 days of the original broadcast. This timeshift viewing is added to the live data to produce consolidated viewing data made available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the BARB Gold Standard used by the industry to report and trade on.

Conventionally this market is settled on the Overnights. Clearly this is because you wouldn't want to wait a number of days or weeks to settle the market. It's also the overnights that are reported in the media as the 'winner'. Only the specialist media is concerned with consolidated figures.

Sounds like a cop out by 365, because TQS will be reported separately in the consolidated figures as well. The chances are however that it will be overtaken by something that was more likely to be recorded. I doubt many people watch TQS after Xmas day.

If they choose to settle on consolidated because it suits their book this year, it won't end there.

I did a quick bit of research, and as suspected TQS has no chance on consolidated. It only picked up between 100K - 200K on consolidated last year.

(Approximation of consolidated increases last year)

DW 2.8
MBB 2.1
CTM 2.1
DA 1.9
EE 1.6
SCD 1.5
CS 1.4

Obviously there are variables, DW regeneration, MBB on later this year, etc.

Link to the numbers from 2012

.http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jan/02/eastenders-downton-abbey-christmas-day-tv

You can check them on the Barb site for free in a couple of weeks
Just put in the week in the top 30 section

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/weekly-top-30?

MBB won last year on consolidated too, with 11.52M

lol at this analysis of TQS topping Overnight numbers

Lizo Mzimba, entertainment correspondent, BBC News
Some might be surprised to see the Queen top of the overnight TV ratings, but it is not unexpected, at least in that initial snapshot of who watched what on Christmas Day.

It is one of the few programmes that people and families still like to sit down and watch as it is broadcast. It has the added appeal of being shown on more than one channel.

Nothing to do with the abdication rumours then

lol yep. Even my mum had heard about the rumours

I've just seen the barb consolidated figures on their site, don't appear to include +1. So the ITV ones aren't right

My opinion, the market should only be based upon the day, ie the Overnights. The market is about the most watched programme on Xmas day, not the programme that was broadcast on Xmas day but recorded and viewed several days later included.

HD, +1 and timelapse on Xmas day should also be included. ie any viewings on the same day added together.

I wasn't around for the morning of the TQS price crash, but my suspicion is that 365 were slow to update the prices and have a big liability on TQS courtesy of arbers. It's 1000 that TQS will top the consolidated figures.

Official B.A.R.B results not out until January 5th Bet365 paying nothing until then.

It's a bit of a farce at this stage.

The overnight results make more sense to go by.

People watching on +1 stations or recording programmes and watching a few later
shouldn't be counted in the Top Programme watched on Xmas day.

watching a few days later

Who are you on, Rob?

Mrs Browns Boys

They are saying they think it's the winner and expect to pay out on it.

I think your theory on them being slow to change The Queens price is correct myself
and thats why they are doing this.

I know in the past when I had accounts with the firms, some of them stipulated that they would pay out on the BARB figures after about two weeks.  Pretty certain VC was one of them.  Don't know about 365 though.

Christmas Day TV – the consolidated top 10
1. Mrs Brown’s Boys, BBC1, 9.7m
2. Call The Midwife, BBC1, 9.4m
3. Strictly Come Dancing, BBC1, 9m
4. Miranda, BBC1, 8.7m
5. EastEnders, BBC1, 8.6m
6. Doctor Who BBC1, 8.3m
7. Queen’s message, BBC1/ITV, 8.2m
8. Coronation Street, ITV, 8m
9. Downton Abbey, ITV, 7.7m
10. Emmerdale, ITV, 6.7m

thanks cider did you get off the B.A.R.B  website l still haven't been paid by the fookers

From the Guardian website .http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/02/tv-ratings-mrs-browns-boys-dethrones-queen

They are the BARB figures that are only available to media/subscribers initially I think.

I don't really enjoy comedies as I have a rather dry sense of humour but I decided to watch MBB'S and I do have to say it's really funny and done in front of an audience.

I agree looky. I used to avoid it as I didn't think it would be my thing, but it's a very decent comedy show. Unlike Miranda it's actually funny

Yeah - I went shopping to sainsburys late last night and there was a  boxset for only £15 and I was going to buy it.
Miranda is sooooo boring!

If you find TM, I'll buy it from you. Good to see you shopping in sainsburys too

Only went as they sent me loads of vouchers - spend £60 and get £12 off
Actually they always have the last laugh as I spend too much on things I don't really need.

The share price will be flying on Monday now

I even got my turkey from them this year as M&S let me down
I went xmas shopping on the 23rd dec and finished up in M&S at around 11.00pm for my food shopping and they had no turkeys left and I had to drive 20 miles to get a free range turkey at Sainsbury and when I arrived the manager told me that they were closing 11.55pm and I had 2 min's to get the turkey and pay.

It was very nice and cooked to perfection, even if I do say so myself

I hope you filled up with petrol while there too

Ha ha I did.    Are you watching me on CCTV

Just some simple deduction

I got double points

still no payout from 365 on anything .

even tho on the front of the B.A.R.B website the official results are there

it is turning into one big farce with them.

I'm in no hurry to get my cash, but it is getting a bit silly now.

Cider what do you make of this.

Was just on to 365 again and now there saying it mightn't be settled until
the end of january going by last year.

Why are they being so cautious.

Am I right in thinking Mrs Browns is 100% the winner.?

here is a radio times link which gives detailed results

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-01-03/mrs-brown-more-popular-than-the-queen-according-to-christmas-day-viewing-figures

I've no idea what they're playing at, Rob. I did contact their live help, and just got some fobbing off standard template answers.

Settled, finally.

The correct way?

MBB has been weighed in, not sure about TQS.