***Slashing the Odds - A Razor-Sharp Journey***

Great thread title with correct starrage.... WP

Although I think he has no chance whatsoever and is my biggest red!

Although you are right to give consideration to the menstrual cycle by referring to him as a "long shot" when he is only 9/1 gives away the fact that deep down you don't really fancy him yourself

"No chance whatsover" may be putting it harshly. Although, admittedly it's more of a fan bet that anything else for me.

Just can't bring myself to put any money on Rylan/Ryan.

My biggest green based on the fact i think he's well liked in the house.

Seems a decent enough bloke and if he can survive a week with Pete Burns on wife swop this should be a walk in the park

He opened up 2nd favourite with books.

I watched a couple of hours of this guy on youtube and he's too vulgar to appeal to the MEM's.

His longest monologue on BB so far was about bogies (I turned the sound down).

I find it hard to imagine who would vote for him. The Paddy comparison is just so far wrong its untrue - Paddy went against his stereotype, showed some real compassion and understanding in the house. Razor is just a big gruff old footballing geezer - an Eric Bristow type in my eyes. He may be occassionally be humourous I'd imagine but to do enough to win this - snowballs chance in hell for me.

Early days admittedly - I just don't think he has the capacity to surprise me.

Max red

Signing in

Flip flopping with Frankie took longer than expected

Paddy was 20/1 the day he won iirc

I'm on board, looks sure to be there at the end

He's had a 'moment' that defines a potential winner, more than almost all the others can say. He's performed great so far, been the grizzly bear he was supposed to portray and the standing up to spencer is viewed favourably because so many hate spiedi.

Saying he isn't like Paddy is just wrong. Paddy was simmering with aggression, more than Razor, and he even let it leak out without real provocation vs Bobby.

Razor valid second favourite, but not sure he can get past Rylan.

Only Bailey is saying that stu, and guess what? He already had a large red

The friendship between the two could mean Rylan voters switch if Razor is seen as more 'deserving'

Like Julian and Bet last time, it's the only interesting relationship in the house and gives Razor great kudos. You'd perhaps expect him to be repelled from Rylan rather than assume the father role

I'd be happy with the reverse forecast either way, though slightly better for me if Rylan takes it, and I think he will just squeak ahead of Razor.

He has the more natural voting base I think, though not impossible for Razor, given reasons you suggest.

Who had the more natural voting base in Jedward vs Paddy?

Yes, I thought so too

True - but once I saw Rylan in the house I knew he would have his natural base plus a lot of additional support. I think Jedward suffered because they never collected any of the natural BB voter's support.

I still find the Paddy result puzzling anyway however. I got that wrong.

True enough, Rylan more voteable than the irishers.  But Razor is having a very endearing love-in with him.  Lasses love this stuff innit

He's already done more than Paddy ever did.  How was calling Jeds scamps every 10 minutes and being totally unintelligible enough?

Paddy was a mystery of a result for me - beats Jeds and KK (a reality star if ever was).

Just shows the mems will vote for gruff, aggressive older men!

Big 'regional' vote from the community I suspect

Razor rather cuddly compared to Paddy, who clearly had anger issues that we never quite saw properly

What exactly was his point of winning it was my question? I couldn't remember him doing anything.

This is the sort of thing that could win it for him

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11.17am: Gillian and Tricia are inspecting Razor's newly smooth back like they're at the Natural History Museum. #CBB

Jan 14, 2013 -- 11:25AM, stu wrote:

What exactly was his point of winning it was my question? I couldn't remember him doing anything.

Seemed just to be everyone saying 'Paddy's great - he should win' in the last few days stu

Similar could happen with Razor? Very popular in the house?

I don't see why not. I'd say he's got a better natural base for voting than Paddy had, though maybe not the block support that must have happened there. Actually, he is pretty big in Liverpool isn't he?....

His gambling mates will have his number on redial for a couple of days

Ok for the people wondering why Paddy won - he went against his sterotype - showing compassion in the house. was in tears talking about how he was missing his wife. Showed the greatest respect for women and family values in his conversations. Just as I remember it - wasn't exactly glued to the whole series.
How much of this applies to Razor - exactly none so far - in fact he has only reinforced his aggressive persona - luckily for his backers to Speidi

He still strikes me as having a chance though mainly because the rest seem to have had personality bypasses

Speaks volumes about the mentality of people watching this show that such a display of neanderthal behaviour could actually be seen in a positive light . Bloke is a thug . End of .

...or standing up to the relentlessly awful yanks, can see it either way. It's basically about whether or not you like them, and a lot don't.

The messages I read everywhere seem mostly to suggest that people wished Razor had throttled Spencer, so any restraint is presumably admirable

They also think he shouldn't have been cautioned

^ never heard of them yanks before, went on YouTube to find out a bit more about them, one female American TV presenter said, "Basically they are the biggest pair of Jackasses on American TV.

Speidi are awful people quite clearly , but there can be no excuse for Razors behaviour . If I was Ryan i'd be unbelievably embarrassed that somebody felt I needed "protecting" in such a way. Razor in clear need of psychological help imo .

It was a bit of shouting lol

BB only have themselves to blame. They should have looked at the last time they pulled that stunt - it led to fight night

Razor has clearly benefitted from it whatever you think

Rylan and Spencers confrontation was "a bit of shouting" . Razors confrontation was pure physical intimidation ...

You probably ought to phone the polis

Calm down Kelly. He did naff all apart from the verbals - he stood a bit closer to spencer who probably filled his kecks, that's all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6nC-Nmxi90&feature=share


Thats probably worse Kelly

Rights and wrongs aside - he's gained more chance of winning, that's all that matters in terms of the betting market.

Someone wants a few quid.

Another good edit?

Judging from this clip it appears I was terribly mistaken and it was actually Razor who should be fearful ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM7D3nClowg

i think he's still in this

he's been up for a laugh most of the time and not been forced down the viewers throats like Rylan

there's still a healthy anyone but rylan vote to be claimed imho.

^^ I thought Razor already got the Brazilian treatment.

Full steam ahead, boys.