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24 Dec 12
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Does anyone know how the High st are paying out on 'Top Female' please? I had £200 on DVO so surmised it would be a 'Dead Heat' but I've a feeling 'Sportingbet' have just voided it and given me my stake back.
Anyone know about the other firms?
Thanks and all the best for Christmas and The New Year
Anyone know about the other firms?
Thanks and all the best for Christmas and The New Year
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what we know is on the live final night thread Lou; all permutations from joint winners, pay either as second, Kim as second to now void...stan the one to have been on it seems.
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Thanks George. I don't see how it's not a 'Dead Heat' full stop.
Sportingbte aren't at all clear with their 'accounts' section it's all very basic but I'm almost certain they've just payed me my stake back. That can't be right surely. |
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dead heat at worst I'd have thought...or worst for you would be spoils who called dvo third.,,,for now anyway, I'm on kim so you pays your money. Kim did come 2nd it seems.
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George what makes you say 'Kim came second' and surely Spoils can't pay out her 2nd and thus DVO third?
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Read the live thread Lou....Inspector Bailey is on the case now
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Won't troll through hundreds of replies George. Not to worry i'll keep you posted.
I'm on the phone to Sporting bt now. Cheers |
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UPDATE:
Sporting paid out 'Dead Heat' rightly so. Thus my £200 stake at evens became £100 at evens so my money back in the end which is fair enough I suppose. Good luck all .................... well most of you! wink |
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For me it is totally unacceptable to declare the top female result a dead heat. Firstly it is inconceivable to me that the two girls left in the final received exactly the same number of phone votes. Either Kimberley or Denise were the top female but not a dead heat and it seems totally unacceptable that Betfair cannot obtain the voting information from the BBC.
If the BBC cannot for whatever reason provide the appropriate information then all bets should be voided. I for one cannot understand why the BBC would not provide such information. |
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Feltfair, The runner up spots were not decided by using the number of phone votes cast, so why should obtaining the votes for each dancer matter?
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Mach,how was the winner decided then?
Settling the Top Female as a dead heat for me means both girls received exactly the same number of votes which I find inconceivable. |
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Betfair is on journotom's twitter I think and he says he will let them know outcome iirc without checking. Of course even with the best of intentions and the certainty of the source hard to see how one bookie in isolation could settle based on it.
No doubt the BBC would wallow in their own smugness if they knew the chaos their arrogance has caused. |
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Also Dani Harper was eliminated based on the fact she received the least number of votes.
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George we agree with each other!!
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That is specials betting Feltfair.
Plenty of people on the main thread thought that Top female would be a D/H, given how the BBC had described the way the final would work....and bet accordingly. |
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Yes I understand but the BBC refuse to provide who got the most phone votes between DVO and KW but merely stated they were both runners up to Louis.
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Which is the official result, a DH for second.
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Yes...and that was predictable, given how they described the final would work.
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Sorry don`t understand your comment.
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there was a winner and two runner up slots in the event, 2nd and 3rd place did not exist in the event structure, votes could be released by the BBC showing that Kim got 1/2 million more votes than DVO and they would still be joint runners up.
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Mine?
The BBC had said how the final would work. The 4 finalists dancing twice. Then one going and the final 3 dancing once more. Then the winner announced. Given that it was unlikely that they would announce a 2nd or 3rd |
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Sorry what do you mean "how they described the final would work"?
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BBC SCD website
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As the BBC declare the official result. They could have said no voting in the final, and declared DVO the winner. You were betting on Top Female on the event, not number of votes.
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How the final would work was described on It Takes Two, on the BBC webiste (I believe) and many other websites.
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Semi Final and The Grand Final
Semi Final On the Saturday 15th December Semi Final, all remaining couples will dance twice. The judges will score in the usual way and the audience will vote for their favourite/s when we open the lines. Once the judges’ scores and audience votes have been combined, the two couples with the lowest combined scores will have to dance again in the dance off where the judges will choose the couple they wish to save from elimination. The Grand Final The Grand Final of Strictly Come Dancing 2012 will be on Saturday 22nd December. The remaining couples will all dance again but this time the judges' scores will be for reference only. The eliminations and the ultimate winner of Strictly Come Dancing 2012 will be decided purely by the public vote. Phone lines will open after all couples have danced for the first time. Lines will then be frozen at a time announced on the programme. The couple with the fewest votes at this point will be eliminated at the start of the Results show (on that same day). In the very unlikely event of two couples being tied at the bottom of the phone vote, Head Judge Len Goodman will have the casting vote so that one couple will still be eliminated. The phone lines will then be reopened but all the votes already cast for the remaining couples will still count and will be carried over. The remaining couples will dance once more for your votes in the Results show before the lines are closed and the winner announced. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m8dq/features/about |
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One could argue, quite rightly imv, even if figures emerged, that the official result is a joint runner-up therefore a DH for Top Female.
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Mach,understand what your saying but for betting purposes it is fraudulent in my opinion for Betfair to settle the market as a dead heat. All bets on this market after DH was eliminated should be voided. For me the BBC to announce two runners up is bad enough but for Betfair to call it a dead heat is wrong.
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Feltfair basically they told us up front there would be joint runners up and they would only announce the winner. We know they don't issue the actual scores.
I was too slow/stupid to take advantage. |
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The eliminations and the ultimate winner of Strictly Come Dancing 2012 will be decided purely by the public vote.
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Sorry Cider don`t get you DH finished fourth.
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Dead Heat mate.
Which female celebrity will progress the furthest in ITV's Dancing On Ice 2013? This is the line for DOI. If it emerged there was no pv this year, this market would still be settled. |
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after Dani was eliminated if kim or DVO had won we would have had a top female, so why void?
and the forcast market gave value to everyone that new what they were doing, ignorance of the market concerned is no defence |
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*knew
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Sorry we got a winner and a fourth and then two runners up, that is not a dead heat unless the votes are made known and they are exactly equal.
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If the votes were equal they would have been made known. As per the stated rules.
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So are you saying George they were not equal?
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Yes they weren't equal vote wise...and?
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OK,judged runners up,ok but a dead heat no.
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joint runners up nobody is saying a dead heat
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