Alan JZ or other Christmas number 1 experts..?

kworb was favouring Jim the day JC stole the lead

Tomorrow's figures will include the spike from today after all of Wednesday's publicity...

If there was ever a time to green up I'd say it was tomorrow.

I can see the sales levelling off after that.

we all know what shape a bell is, I've laid the JC a bit at 1.13, and very happy to do it

this weeks projections for JA to have a chance

    ja    tjc        LW    ja
sun    36868            93452
Mon    36867    72383        93452
Tue    30576    37320        67809
Wed    25790    36730        64928
th    30000    33000        59294
fr    30000    35000        55532
sa    50000    40000        55533
    240101    254433        490000

Not looking too likely to me

AS you will note, from day one of release JA has reduced sales every day, weekends sales being particularly poor

and this is my prediction to the actual result

    ja    tjc
sun    36868   
Mon    36867    72383
Tue    30576    37320
Wed    25790    36730
th    25000    36000
fr    23000    35000
sa    23000    35000
    201101    252433

Cheers Alan. I also reckon a 50k winning margin is on the cards...

i've heard Jim is outselling Hillsborough 3 to 1 in stores outside liverpool

Middlesbrough?

Derby.   I wouldn't be taking the short odds on Hillsborough

Your kworby thing showing JC back on top

shop sales pretty irrelevent TBH, even in the last year, we're selling literally 4/5 copies of each, compared with 40/50 MW

last midweeks in 10 minutes

A

MW?

Milly Wifies

it's all over IMO

Seen the figures al?

yeah

as has everyone else I guess!

I wouldn't know where to look!

Twitter all over JC

I meant a few other shrewdies!, one sec

TJC 170491
JA 146979

Lead extended by another 9k or so

oh WOW - that's done.

It's roughly a day's worth of Jim sales ahead now

Exactly, farm bet for me IF I can land some around 1.06

JC   24508
JA   14878

Miserable weather prolly killed HS sales

Pretty low sales for both to be honest, but enough to suggest that it's a done deal.  Can't see a way back for JA from here...

Makes that 1.16 last night look quite special - thanks for Mr. Green ;-)

In the HTH

JC had 59% yesterday, and it's gone up to 62% today

glad i got on at 1-2 !

Ferry for Cider

Been matched as low as 1.03 now!

It's a sign

Not another bl00dy sign

The Justice Collective’s Hillsborough tribute single leads the race to the 2012 Christmas Number 1 in the Official Charts Company’s final sales bulletin of the week.

The race to the 2012 Christmas Number 1 remains finely balanced going into the weekend. In the Official Charts Company’s final sales bulletin of the week, The Justice Collective’s Hillsborough tribute single, He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother, maintains its lead over James Arthur’s Impossible for the third day running, having sold 23,000 copies more than the X Factor winner up to midnight last night (with five days of sales counted).

The Official Charts Company’s managing director Martin Talbot says:

“The momentum is in favour of the Justice Collective, who now have a decent lead, having sold around 15% more than James Arthur at this point. But they have opened up their lead in just two days – it could easily be closed over the next two days.

“The Justice Collective are favourites right now – but their lead is not unbridgeable by any means. With two days of sales left to be counted, it is all to play for.”


straw clutching

With my industry head on;

It's important in these days of downloads(legal and otherwise) and the demise of the high street, that we continue to get people to celebrare music in all it's forms. The Christmas No1 race is one of those times we can keep ourselves in the forefront of peoples minds. Martin's a great MD, the OCC has been rebranding the charts and it is working to keep the public a bit interested.

Now how about everyone go out and buy a CD or Vinyl in a shop over the next

I must have sent everyone to sleep! Off to Wetherby on 26th, so I expect some decent tips ;-)

I think you suggesting they go outside has meant you're probably on most peoples "block list" now

lol yes

Buy a CD?

Feck arf 

Where is your shop Al, so I know to avoid it?

LOL bear, I did wonder if any of you guys have seen daylight recently

GB now on hitlist :-) in the Toon man

oooo windaz?

aye, yull have nee windaz when am dun!

I'll buy you a cake next time I'm in toon

Better than a CD

CDs are for life, not just betting on Christmas Number ones

I think I knew that, I'm forgetful

Most successful independent in Britain and yet only sells albums of Sting playing the hurdy gurdy

With his bellend

Christmas Chart the year I was born!

1    IT'S NOW OR NEVER    ELVIS PRESLEY
2    I LOVE YOU    CLIFF RICHARD AND THE SHADOWS
3    SAVE THE LAST DANCE FOR ME    DRIFTERS
4    LONELY PUP (IN A CHRISTMAS SHOP)    ADAM FAITH
5    POETRY IN MOTION    JOHNNY TILLOTSON

Keep it quiet, your youthfulness will annoy a few on here

something for the oldies then

Christmas Number Ones Sheet Music Sales pre 1952

1945: Issy Bonn... I'm In Love With Two Sweethearts
1946: Frank Sinatra... Five Minutes More
1947: Lou Preager.. Jimmy Leach... An Apple Blossom Wedding
1948: Dinah Shore..Evelyn Knight... Buttons And Bows
1949: Anton Karas... The Harry Lime Theme
1950: Gene Autry.. Bing Crosby... Rudoph The Red-Nosed Reindeer
1951: Teddy Johnson ..Teresa Brewer ...Longing For You

A slightly different take on Bing`s `Rudolph`...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5HGNkq56iU

n1 - older than me

what squares, in the world?

you are

I am, shirley not?!

13/12/2012    Single To Win    James Arthur @ 10/11
Ireland Christmas No 1 Single

More guff

sorry if this has already been posted but even JA wants Hillsborough to be number 1:

"Platinum single baby! Not a bad start :) thanks to all who bought it now make sure the hillsbrough tune is number 1!! #LOVE," Arthur added, in reference to the Justice Collective charity single supporting the families of those involved in the 1989 stadium disaster.


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/s103/the-x-factor/news/a446875/james-arthur-to-matt-cardle-desperation-for-press-is-embarrassing.html

Wise head on young shoulders

Oh, apart from responding to Cardle jibes

Dec 22, 2012 -- 12:59PM, GeorgeBrush wrote:

Wise head on young shoulders

That same wise head (and young shoulders actually) was staring at me on the Tesco book section this morning...James Arthur X Factor winner Biography ,or something like that.They done well to get that out in the time span....it's almost as if......

I bought the Mary Berry cake book btw.

It's a sign

Any biogs of Strictly contestants?

Louis Smith's guide to teapots

Beth Tweddle guide to gurning may have been in the Horror section.

is "Live UK iTunes Popularity Bars" not to be trusted? they have had JA a head last night and today.
James Arthur - Impossible 1.0000 ,The Justice Collective - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brothe... 0.8750

Dec 22, 2012 -- 1:25PM, mach wrote:

is "Live UK iTunes Popularity Bars" not to be trusted? they have had JA a head last night and today.James Arthur - Impossible 1.0000 ,The Justice Collective - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brothe... 0.8750

No, it's fine and simulated here :

http://www.digitalsalesdata.com/diydsd.php?Region=143444

Problem is, 1k extra downloads for JA over 24 hr period won't make any difference

Yes JA still selling well, unfortunately too little too late for his backers

I think those bars are not to be trusted at all.
Was looking the other day and at that stage JA was ahead with TJC on .875 and had been for about 3 hours!!
If they were in any way accurate then surely that would fluctuate over time and not stay the same hour after hour.

And then the following day TJC had taken the lead so it wasnt even close!!

Dec 22, 2012 -- 4:43PM, Mr Ed wrote:

I think those bars are not to be trusted at all.Was looking the other day and at that stage JA was ahead with TJC on .875 and had been for about 3 hours!!If they were in any way accurate then surely that would fluctuate over time and not stay the same hour after hour.And then the following day TJC had taken the lead so it wasnt even close!!

You realise it's only online downloads?  TJX selling more physical copies.

JC now 1,500 ahead online!

still some "free" money left on this - admittedly you need £200 to make £1 but £1k gets you a free lunch.

Whills still at 1.02 as well

is it official yet?

bout 2pm, there's normally some trading until later in the afternoon, so someone's been doing the hoovering (not me)

Be abpout 230 I can access the numbers

A

sorry, it's not actaully official til radio 1 make the announcement, there's an embargo til then

TJC it is then by a 45 margin, hope you all did ok!

A

still 1/50 with billies,

Thanks for all the updates and info Alan, much appreciated.

now 1/100

closed

Well done Alan.  Great info. Sadly the hoovers moved in on betfair the very second you posted.  Very good of you to post before hitting the meerkat

didnt see anything available on bf, but managed to pay for a few bottles of vino tinto elsswhere

Dec 23, 2012 -- 3:17PM, alanjz wrote:

didnt see anything available on bf, but managed to pay for a few bottles of vino tinto elsswhere

850 and 950 were available but went as I looked

Someone also took out some 1.01 I had in the market

alanjz always great to see you around

hope you enjoyed that programme "Sound It Out" a couple of months ago(BBC4) about a vinyl/cd shop in stockton.best documentary in ages imo

have a well deserved jolly at the horses on boxing day mate

Cheers Alan, much appreciated as ever... You're a (Christmas) star!

We all owe you a few drinks - especially as you weren't able to profit from your own advice this time round!

The Pogues and Kirsty - top classic at No 12.

Only right it should retain the honour.

Yep, good work on your annual thread as always Alan.  Not a year I could really get involved, was away most of last week and on the road the days of most of the activity on here - bloody typical, esp as I kept catching the JC ramping on the radio.

Fingers crossed Wetherby goes ahead for you.

All the best for the festive season and 2013.

1    HE AIN'T HEAVY HE'S MY BROTHER    JUSTICE COLLECTIVE    269248
2    IMPOSSIBLE    JAMES ARTHUR    223770
3    SCREAM & SHOUT    WILL I AM FT BRITNEY SPEARS    88400

12    FAIRYTALE OF NEW YORK    POGUES FT KIRSTY MACCOLL    23229

20    ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOU    MARIAH CAREY    16774

Hey guys, no problem, made a few quid of billies in the end

Just goes to show, has James been out the same week, things would be very different!

A

I had an even tenner on Leona Lewis making the Top 200

If anyone reads this from PP settle the market Koonts!!!!

Cheers for all the ecellent info alan. Can you check your messages if you are still about.

NP, anytime, and messages read ;-)

Dec 24, 2012 -- 12:58AM, mach wrote:

If anyone reads this from PP settle the market Koonts!!!!

Add **** to that as well!

boyle

Dec 24, 2012 -- 1:25PM, nigelpm1 wrote:

boyle

they have now -

vin·di·ca·tion  (vnd-kshn)
1. The act of vindicating or condition of being vindicated.
2. The defense, such as evidence or argument, that serves to justify a claim or deed.