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Obviously tonights result has really shaken the confidence of some seriously battle hardened x factor puntertheory's hat do people think happened, what is behind the decision?
For me the only plausible explanation is that this is the beginning of the ultimate Gary Barlow deramp
For me the only plausible explanation is that this is the beginning of the ultimate Gary Barlow deramp
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I think this is going to be an empty thread - a lot of scratching of heads going on. As I said elsewhere my theory is that there is little or no direct manipulation of sing-offs or judges' decisions. And if there was the fiasco last week put an end to it.
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last week's fiasco just proved TPTB have mastered the manipulation
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It was smoother when Cowell was alpha. Now the alpha is a trusted producer but someone who can’t sit at the desk with the judge puppets. Hence the headless chickens.
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Oh and as for the OP - D3 gives them a bit of boyband battle possibilities and Melanie disappointed them. (Last week they would have saved Melanie).
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But all it has done is create a surge for support of D3 and taken the emphasis off Union J being the "next big boyband in the UK", whilst not creating any drama whatsoever.
Melanie could have gone far, Ruth was b2 very early on too iirc. Baffled. Thankful not to bet after b2 was announced as would've lost a packet. |
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Melanie could have gone far, Ruth was b2 very early on too iirc.
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I saw the Ruth series last year, not live, and found Ruth captivating. Different league imo.
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They managed to turn a one trick pony but perfectly acceptable hippy rock chick with next to no chance of winning into something I can't even begin to find the words to describe with (obviously) zero chance of winning. Those new stylists as bad as the last lot.
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Scratching my head too. The most possible reason is to continue the narrative of the battle of the boybands theme, but that does look a bit forlorn.
Could be the notion of lets make Gary look an idiot and put him as the stooge instead of Louis, whereby when his acts have gone he can focus on pushing TCO. They may have realised he has 4 duffers and in order to get one to respectable finish the other three have to be dispensed with. Finally it is possible they couldnt give a toss and rather than feed the conspiracy theories they just let the judges do there own thing. In years gone by they were told not to send it to deadlock unless absolutely necessary eg saving an act they wanted Jedward or Rylan when the narrative has been they were duffers. To me the deadlock decision was strange when they could have saved either without too much controversy, I guess it looks like the public decided playing down the fix allegations. The X Factor rulebook has been thrown out of the window, the quicker we get a new copy the easier it will be. |
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You're making too much of this JOT. Why sustain a totally useless jock rocker, about as contemporary as Elkie Brooks (as Lou pointed out) when they can have a nice little boyband for an extra couple of weeks? It reminds me of them saving useless Lloyd at least once
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And I think you are possibly right, they were probably told to make it look strictly hands off last night
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Melanie could have gone far Load of nonsense jack, she was awful. The only thing that could have made that true is the Scottish vote, nope she didn't excite them either
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My thoughts are that this weekend was just about getting rid of Shaky.All the relatively safe acts were put on early,with Shaky sandwiched inbetween,and all the at risk acts late.Mel was probably third bottom last week,hence the pimp to improve her %.When this failed to come off,they simply cut loose Mel knowing it is now virtually impossible to engineer votes for her,and so making it easier to manipulate future evictions.
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Sounds fair enough hems.
I have to say my parents were fans of Elkie Brooks, and having seen her live she is nothing like Melanie. Beautiful silky smooth vocals as well as being able to rock it up. Mel was the vocal equivalent of having a go at your privates with a cheese grater. |
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Yep, I'd agree, Mel just about as fashionable as Elkie Brooks, that's all. Maybe Bonnie Tyler would have been a better example, but I'm sure she was far better too. There's a reason why these old koonts have never got anywhere
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squares
Will you ever agree with anything I say? I've seen 'Elkie' too and thought they sounded similar. I thought Melanie had a good strong voice and was shocked she went last night but I do think it's very close at the bottom so she had as good a chance to go as about 10 of them I suppose. |
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Mel was the vocal equivalent of having a go at your privates with a cheese grater.
Don't knock it til you've tried it squares As for Elkie, I agree. My parents were fans too and I grew up listening to lots of stuff. |
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of her stuff*
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blimey - from as far back as Robert Palmer / Vinegar Joe days?
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Barlow lost two acts in a row.....personally i do not think he will be happy losing another one so soon and will make that clear to the producers.....expect kye and maloney to go through the next two weeks.
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Meh, as soon as Baloney is B2 they will hoik him out
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I'm sure they'd rather Gary just concentrated on ramping Ella
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After the fall out from last weekend, this weekend looked to be one where "they" seemed to want to play it pretty straight - none of the critiques were too horrible or OTT, no real drama played out in the results show.
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Thanks for the reminder
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Agree with a lot of the above - they had to play it straight this week...
But what is interesting is the running order. I was convinced that they were trying to do a hatchet job on Baloney, but it may well have backfired as he was in the 'favoured' half with all the decent acts, while all the dross was towards the end (meaning many viewers may simply have switched off). If Rylan really is hated that much, then many people may have reached for the remote before the show was finished. With the phone lines opening at the start maybe, just maybe, the prods are just fishing in the dark. The old rules may not apply anymore - in which case they really are out of control. Mel was only the second act to go from an early pimp slot, following Carolynne in trap 12 last week. Too early to draw any concrete conclusions, but the old running order routine may have been flipped on its head. |
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Looks like option 4 then
 . I can see why Dan went down the route of thinking tptb would favour Melanie. After all last week getting rid of District 3 seemed to be the plan even this week it was like they couldnt give a toss about them. The truth seems to be they couldnt give a toss about Melanie either, so lets just play it straight.But thats 2 weeks running their plan a has not come to fruition assuming getting rid of Christopher was the plan, so where do they go from here? |
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Chris for pimp after Rylan I assume
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Why assume they're trying to get rid of Chris? He was virtually the star of boot camp and judges houses.
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If anybody gets the new rule book can I have a copy please
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JO - I was about to write the same... They didn't really care much for either of them, so why not let the public decide.
They will be happy enough for the battle of the boy bands to continue for a little while yet if UJ are polling well enough. The deramping of D3 has already begun so it's only a matter of time. They'll be able to ditch them when it suits anyway... Yes, I'd like a copy of that new rule book too! Thankfully I had a saver on Mel at 25/1, but this is already having an impact on the stocking fillers for Christmas! |
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For once I don't think they knew who was bottom of the vote
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I agree. It didn't matter anyway. First genuine deadlock we've seen in years!
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The Fink says it - though must admit on first sight it looked that way with his draw.
They have been adaptable in past years though, and gone from anti a contestant to seeing that they are actually worth keeping, so it can happen. |
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Maybe they're struggling with their trusty rule book this year because one (maybe two) acts are taking up such a massive share of the votes there's so little between the rest making it very hard for them to "control" things as effectively as in the past. Maybe 9 or 10 on low %ages, as opposed to perhaps 4 or 5 in the past.
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My own view, FWIW, is that Chris was pimped for the wild card because they knew he would just be cannon fodder when needed.
However, the polls suggest that he does have a base of support as a result of the airtime (and scouse factor of course) which may make him hard to shift. I think Saturday was an effort to nobble him - it wasn't just the sandwich, but the VT, song choice, negative comments... Make no mistake, they want him to go sooner rather than later. |
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Definitely Squares - my guess is that very little separated the bottom 5/6 last night.
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Did an incredible amount of trading over the weekend, when I saw the running order lumped pn Christopher and Union J to go
laid Union J for top group piled into Melanie the pimp act for top over and outright Laid Melanie for bottom 2 and elimination.Then suddenly I had to reverse reverse reverse as best I could managed to get out of my positions and ended up in front mainly due to Melanie bottom 2 but next week what positions do I take it used to be far far easier  |
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Was just going to type something along similar lines, maybe they've misjudged the scouse support (franked by Rebecca and Emily's comments last night) - thought they were pimping through someone they could ditch at the drop of a hat and now they're left with a floater that's not so easy to flush away.
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