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Ok a few of you might have noticed that i keep going on about a 999/1 shot with a chance of winning SPOTY.
I will now reveal his name - David Weir.
Going for 4 Paralympic gold medals and from all accounts has a decent chance of getting them. Will give him a unique selling point of having the most Olympics golds (from either Olympics) and also will have the "sympathy vote" (don't mean that in a bad way).
I was hoping to get more than the £20 I have on him at 999/1 but it looks like the price has now gone. But if he somehow does win 4 golds he could trade quite low.
Do not underestimate these paralympics - they will be massive.
I will now reveal his name - David Weir.
Going for 4 Paralympic gold medals and from all accounts has a decent chance of getting them. Will give him a unique selling point of having the most Olympics golds (from either Olympics) and also will have the "sympathy vote" (don't mean that in a bad way).
I was hoping to get more than the £20 I have on him at 999/1 but it looks like the price has now gone. But if he somehow does win 4 golds he could trade quite low.
Do not underestimate these paralympics - they will be massive.
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Can't see it myself. Think he'll struggle to make the 10 - would have thought Elie would be their token Para athlete if they want one on the list.
They're probably more likely to create a special new category - Para athlete of the year.
They're probably more likely to create a special new category - Para athlete of the year.
Could maybe see both making a 10, but then the vote is split and both a fcked. Come November these prices will look like madness
When Hamilton wins the title he'll be a no hoper trading at 10 
Seems likely now Weir will be the para of choice if he bags the 4 golds JR
Or more hopefully they will collectively win team of the year.
Absolutely noone is talking about paralympics in my circles. Individuals don't stand a hope, good call on the price tho.
Probably joint winners of team award knowing the Beeb - the full Olympic team (for record medal haul) & the plucky limb-challenged team. Dead-heat rules to apply for TOTY backers of Paras team.
None of the paras make the 10 (if it is to be 10) and Team Award seems the most sensible option.
Doubt any of the Para competitors want pity votes, but it's very hard for the lay person to judge achievements in that field.
Doubt any of the Para competitors want pity votes, but it's very hard for the lay person to judge achievements in that field.
I can absolutly guarantee there will be at least 1 if not 2 Paralympians on the shortlist. BBC will not want another controversy like last year. It is bad enough to be seen as sexist never mind seen to be discriminating against disability.
"if david weir hits 20s I will show my arse in Tescos window"
So to clarify lamott which tescos will you be showing your arse cheeks in?
So to clarify lamott which tescos will you be showing your arse cheeks in?
Didn`t Julian Clary fist him? Was that in a Tesco`s window?
Shame, we all get our bums out on here. I am naked as I type
Weir on for 4 golds then. That was supposed to be the tricky one. I got so excited I had to put my pants on
The Weir-wolf ffs - one of the most inappropriate nicknames in sporting history.
I got so excited I had to take my pants off.
Yep hopefully he will win the marathon now.
If you rememebr George I told you not to lay Weir off when he was about 500s
If you rememebr George I told you not to lay Weir off when he was about 500s
This Peacock looks more voteable than both of them
If he wins tomorrow it will be a massive story. The entire nation will be doing the "weirwolf".
He could be single figures on here in a day or so. But he has to win first and it won't be easy. If he doesn't win he may as well be a 999/1 shot!
He could be single figures on here in a day or so. But he has to win first and it won't be easy. If he doesn't win he may as well be a 999/1 shot!
Even if he does win, he has no chance ML. Ellie the only Para that might garner a decent vote.
Been a good tip and good thread whatever the outcome
Cannot believe Channel 4 are not showing all the marathon - really poor from them
ffs - sick of all this talking, just show us the bloody marathon
It really is shocking that they can't put a few cameras up around the course!
This coverage is awful 
How can I lay him at 20 if we can't even see him?
How can I lay him at 20 if we can't even see him?
Pop back in half an hour for another glimpse of the race
Ginger tw@t getting his guitar out and doing songs soon, Polly in fawlty towers style
Edwards apologizing already. Feel sorry for him, but it's just nowhere near good enough and what excuses can there be ?
The coverage isn't really C4's fault. They pay to take the feed from the OBC who are contracted to provide the pictures - clearly marathon in full isn't part of their remit.
To be fair they are taking the blame rather than passing the buck.
To be fair they are taking the blame rather than passing the buck.
I guess AM. BBC had similar trouble with the cycling road race
Bit disappointed with the price to be honest! Hoping it comes in abit more - gold medal ceremony at closing ceremony
Hardly surprising. Four gold medals in Para isn't a patch on TdF or two golds at Olympics.
You just wanted to see lamott`s backside in Tesco`s window, of course you`re disappointed.
Attention has turned to Murray. the paras day in the sun is over
Disagree George. Weir will be on all the front pages tomorrow.
He has a unique story being in a wheelchair - won more golds than any other Olympian this year (bar Storey who has no chance).
I make him a 12/1 shot
He has a unique story being in a wheelchair - won more golds than any other Olympian this year (bar Storey who has no chance).
I make him a 12/1 shot
I said on the opening thread george- do not underestimate these Paralympics.
Weir is in a unique position - being obviosuly disabled, but comes across as normal guy on the street. And has won 4 (yes four) gold medals.
Weir is in a unique position - being obviosuly disabled, but comes across as normal guy on the street. And has won 4 (yes four) gold medals.
Get real meaty. It's been a fine tip, but it's time to sober up
Great tip but he'll be 100/1 in a week or so.
Haha!!
For the record I think the top 3 will be:
(1) Farah
(2) Wiggins
(3) Murray/Weir
For the record I think the top 3 will be:
(1) Farah
(2) Wiggins
(3) Murray/Weir
Don't worry lamott I managed to lay most of it off between 26-30s. I will be honest though I thought the odds may have been lower.
When I said "20s" I meant between 20-29.
Not sure why you are getting so stressed about this lamoot. You weren't the one who layed him at 999/1 were you?
Not sure why you are getting so stressed about this lamoot. You weren't the one who layed him at 999/1 were you?
20 backed at 1000 laid off at, let`s say 30, leaves 640 green on the whole field. Not bad trading.
He's not going to win - to be honest I think Peacock and Simmonds are more natural SPOTY candidates, but this remains an excellent trade.
I spent quite a bit of time and money getting some big priced Olympians onside - turns out I was looking at the wrong event.
I spent quite a bit of time and money getting some big priced Olympians onside - turns out I was looking at the wrong event.
I'd have said Peacock should be the one steaming into 30s. And Ellie for that matter, she did of course. Weir has only niche appeal compared to those two, and neither of them would stand a chance
All it would need is a big campaign by disability charities and surely someone like Weir would have a tremendous chance of making the frame at least...?
Still think Mo has it in the bag, with big support also guaranteed for Wiggo - but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a Paralympian on the podium. Murray winning tonight of course could change that.
Still think Mo has it in the bag, with big support also guaranteed for Wiggo - but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a Paralympian on the podium. Murray winning tonight of course could change that.
What about Sarah Storey - 4 golds for her... could make the list.
Not impossible a Paralympian could break the Top 3, but having two of them on the shortlist would kill both their chances imo.
I think the time is ripe for a campaign on behalf of one of the papalympians. It`s too `right on` for the BBC to allow the opportunity to pass. Having backed Weir at bigger prices,I`m keeping him well onside. Just in case.
tanni thompson did well one year, top 3 i think
In such a stellar sporting year as this, Tim, I don't think the timing is right. Yes, overt political correctness is the Beeb's middle name but Weir doesn't come across as very votable imho - also, his exploits would have passed many by with Paras tucked away on C4 - I only saw the 800m & that was purely out of SPOTY interest to see if he won a 3rd gold at the time.
Virtually nobody saw sunday if other messageboards are anything to go by. Just to remind everyone who the 'real' stars are, the victory parade and Tour of Britain are on today
Everyone is going to have a stellar VT on the night, you struggle to make Weir stand out even in pimp
OC voting is open throughout in spoty, no cowell tricks
Sep 10, 2012 -- 3:33PM, donny osmond wrote:
tanni thompson did well one year, top 3 i think
Against a backdrop of failure iirc. And she's very nice, cuddly and voteable
I don`t think even the BBC could get Weir over the line. However, a concerted campaign could certainly drive his price down to mid-teens, maybe more. I`ve laid off enough from him to not be too worried, but have decided to hold what green I have, out of greed, mainly!
I'm actually a bit concerned I might have layed most of it off too early! Still got 4k on Weir but layed the rest off at prices 26-30.
Can see him going to about 10/1
Can see him going to about 10/1
Meat Loaf
If I HAD to choose which price Weir would hit first, 10, or 1000, I fear I would have to answer `1000`. He has already served us both well, so no need for concern, but, in reality, this is probably as good as it`s going to get.
If I HAD to choose which price Weir would hit first, 10, or 1000, I fear I would have to answer `1000`. He has already served us both well, so no need for concern, but, in reality, this is probably as good as it`s going to get.
Yep true - lets not be greedy! But still think Weir is a biggish price.
Farah a big green for me now - so hoping for Mo!
Farah a big green for me now - so hoping for Mo!
Cast off your post-euphoric delusions. This is exactly the sort of stuff that makes spoty a trader's dream. New paradigm as soon as anyone wins anything
I am being a bit greedy, reluctant to lose a still largish green, and then, possibly, just possibly, having to watch him hit much lower prices. I`d rather enjoy the hope of the ride, even if it eventually leads to 1000ville. Sometimes heart over head can work.
You'll get a worse price when he has 2% in the guardian poll
George when is the next guardian poll by matter of interest?
They do it with the shortlist meaty - I didn't realise they'd done one so soon? Linky?
I was just guessing that they had done one George. Ignore me!
salright, we had a DS poll and an SMB poll with over 400 responders in total, after limpics, but before paras
Don't do a TVpolls, and launch it before Murray 
. He was getting a bit keen there. Certainly should have new polls, I would be keen to see one from mumsnet, if anyone is a member ? AJ perhaps
. He was getting a bit keen there. Certainly should have new polls, I would be keen to see one from mumsnet, if anyone is a member ? AJ perhaps
Good call from meatloaf but Two weeks from now ask
your friends if they can remember the name of the wheelchair
guy who won 4 golds.
your friends if they can remember the name of the wheelchair
guy who won 4 golds.
Sep 10, 2012 -- 8:50PM, attitude adjuster wrote:
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!
That was Wolfie Smith
"Good call from meatloaf but Two weeks from now ask
your friends if they can remember the name of the wheelchair
guy who won 4 golds."
It's a very fair point. It has only been the ridiculous attitude of the BBC having to have one para reference for each Olympic reference that has generated any interest at all. Now that we are done with the parade it will be back to normal business with the paras fading even faster than the memory of Wiggins now that Murray mania takes over and everything else struggles to even be sighted in the daily football w*ank fest.
your friends if they can remember the name of the wheelchair
guy who won 4 golds."
It's a very fair point. It has only been the ridiculous attitude of the BBC having to have one para reference for each Olympic reference that has generated any interest at all. Now that we are done with the parade it will be back to normal business with the paras fading even faster than the memory of Wiggins now that Murray mania takes over and everything else struggles to even be sighted in the daily football w*ank fest.
I actually think Weir's pice will come back in to about 25-30s.
He is a realistic outsider for this prize. And I'm not saying that because I want to lay him off as I have already layed the vast majority of it off.
He is a realistic outsider for this prize. And I'm not saying that because I want to lay him off as I have already layed the vast majority of it off.
Sep 11, 2012 -- 5:39PM, Meat Loaf wrote:
I actually think Weir's pice will come back in to about 25-30s. He is a realistic outsider for this prize. And I'm not saying that because I want to lay him off as I have already layed the vast majority of it off.
I don't think he can win SPOTY but he's definitely got a shot at top 3.
Just see this thread well done ML.
What´s the average payout on laying him at 20´s when you backed him at 999 for 20 notes?
What´s the average payout on laying him at 20´s when you backed him at 999 for 20 notes?
Cheers. Layed most of it off now at odds between 26-38.
Still kept a bit up my sleeve just in case there is a "paralympic push" in December.
I was thinking about next years event and I think I've got another huge outsider who may have a chance - all will be revealed next year!
Still kept a bit up my sleeve just in case there is a "paralympic push" in December.
I was thinking about next years event and I think I've got another huge outsider who may have a chance - all will be revealed next year!
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