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24 May 12
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It could be tough going tonight.
Running Order
1. Serbia
2. Macedonia
3. Netherlands
4. Malta
5. Belarus
6. Portugal
7. Ukraine
8. Bulgaria
9. Slovenia
10. Croatia
11. Sweden
12. Georgia
13. Turkey
14. Estonia
15. Slovakia
16. Norway
17. B&H
18. Lithuania
Good luck Joan
Running Order
1. Serbia
2. Macedonia
3. Netherlands
4. Malta
5. Belarus
6. Portugal
7. Ukraine
8. Bulgaria
9. Slovenia
10. Croatia
11. Sweden
12. Georgia
13. Turkey
14. Estonia
15. Slovakia
16. Norway
17. B&H
18. Lithuania
Good luck Joan
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May 24, 2012 -- 11:19PM, George Bailey wrote:
May 24, 2012 -- 11:18PM, jaytee1508 wrote:guys do we know when the winners of the semi's are revealed?Macedonia won it...
any ideas on the first leg?
she didn't say that, the spanish broadcaster said it jokingly
Might be wrong gb2 but think it was the interviewer that said that , and said it was a joke ,
May 24, 2012 -- 11:21PM, George Bailey wrote:
Yeah Moldova
somehow doubt that 70/1 and 30/1 cashed
honestcl things might look up for you on Sat so long as Sweden doesn't run away with it
Hungary were 2nd and Albania 3rd in the first semi, Malta 2nd with Lithuania 3rd tonight.
Yeah popking. Can't believe the prices still available.
i just did't think his guesses were very good
You and about a million others, we were just making light of it. Results are out saturday after the final (as every year).
sorry popking the eurovision isn't the highlight of my year
george bailey mentioned it about spain....cause they told pastora not to win cause the crisis is in spain also thats the answer for 42/1 -> 142/1 henry....so our delegation has to take the next flight and come back home as if spain did that.... 
.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18187148#TWEET150210
Doesn't look like a joke to me
Doesn't look like a joke to me
Directors from broadcasters TVE joked to Pastora Soler, who will represent them on Saturday, "Please, don't win!"
May 24, 2012 -- 11:26PM, jaytee1508 wrote:
sorry popking the eurovision isn't the highlight of my year
Don't apologise jay...we were being a bit tvvatty
Directors from broadcasters TVE joked to Pastora Soler, who will represent them on Saturday, "Please, don't win!"
May 24, 2012 -- 11:27PM, five leaves left wrote:
Directors from broadcasters TVE joked to Pastora Soler, who will represent them on Saturday, "Please, don't win!"
Post her quotes though fll
what part of that sentence don't you understand george?
Yeah, Jay it's fine. It was just amusing for us - a few posters turned up on Tuesday all asking the same, and a few already tonight. No hard feelings mate.
A translation of an interview. The key word is joked
"I think it is not the moment, neither for Spain nor for Spanish public, to win Eurovision," Soler was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.
The Spanish government has slashed spending in public television, resulting in the cancellation of several popular programmes.
The Spanish government has slashed spending in public television, resulting in the cancellation of several popular programmes.
Well i'm still topping up on Spain, great draw for her coming after that Turkish nonsense!
im not joking george i just confirm your prices comment about spain...cause i also heard it today.....besides we totally agree in sweden win.....
ok GB2, 1st I've seen of that quote. It wasn't in the previous piece
2.28 and I have a a list of 10 reasons why she might not win...still with my green who is complaining?
Have we ever had an odds-on jolly for this comp? Had Sweden drawn 24 or 25....
Spain top 5 cracking bet, changed my mind on Italy now.
The actual AFP article.
Spanish public television directors urged the country's Eurovision Song Contest entry not to win this weekend's event because they would not be able to afford to stage it next year if she did.
Under the rules of the contest, the public broadcaster of the nation that wins the event plays host to the competition the following year.
Pastora Soler, who will represent Spain on Saturday in Baku with her ballad "Quedate Conmigo" ("Stay With Me"), said that when she met directors from broadcaster TVE, they joked: "Please, don't win!"
"I think it is not the moment, neither for Spain nor for Spanish public to win Eurovision. If we won, I think it would be impossible to stage the next edition because it costs so much money," she told ABC Punto Radio.
Spain's conservative government has slashed spending and raised taxes to reduce the nation's public deficit to within a European Union limit of 3.0 percent of gross domestic product in 2013 from 8.9 percent last year.
The spending cuts have affected all areas, including public television TV which has been forced to cancel several popular television shows as a result.
The winner of the Eurovision contest -- which began in 1956 as an elegant black-tie event -- is selected by a jury and online and telephone votes from viewers.
Mocked for its "bubblegum pop" and overtly political voting, the contest has been won twice by Spain, in 1968 with singer Massiel's song "La La La" and again the following year with singer Salome's "Vivo Cantando".
The event boasts a television audience estimated at around 125 million people each year
Spanish public television directors urged the country's Eurovision Song Contest entry not to win this weekend's event because they would not be able to afford to stage it next year if she did.
Under the rules of the contest, the public broadcaster of the nation that wins the event plays host to the competition the following year.
Pastora Soler, who will represent Spain on Saturday in Baku with her ballad "Quedate Conmigo" ("Stay With Me"), said that when she met directors from broadcaster TVE, they joked: "Please, don't win!"
"I think it is not the moment, neither for Spain nor for Spanish public to win Eurovision. If we won, I think it would be impossible to stage the next edition because it costs so much money," she told ABC Punto Radio.
Spain's conservative government has slashed spending and raised taxes to reduce the nation's public deficit to within a European Union limit of 3.0 percent of gross domestic product in 2013 from 8.9 percent last year.
The spending cuts have affected all areas, including public television TV which has been forced to cancel several popular television shows as a result.
The winner of the Eurovision contest -- which began in 1956 as an elegant black-tie event -- is selected by a jury and online and telephone votes from viewers.
Mocked for its "bubblegum pop" and overtly political voting, the contest has been won twice by Spain, in 1968 with singer Massiel's song "La La La" and again the following year with singer Salome's "Vivo Cantando".
The event boasts a television audience estimated at around 125 million people each year
Can only see sweden, serbia or spain with a hint of a chance now, maybe germany at a push
Can't help but feel its all over and sweden will walk it, praying for a miracle
Can't help but feel its all over and sweden will walk it, praying for a miracle
Sweden have a fight on with Ukraine belting out that anthem from 25 imo.
I was a genuine question, new to punting on this so not sure. What price did Rybak go off?
May 24, 2012 -- 11:36PM, five leaves left wrote:
It could lead to a sympathy vote for her.
Not by the juries
Its one of the best songs, and the best singer in the competition, the juries will love it.
Gl on Spain figgy, its growing on me. Must be quite happy with the draw around her?
Ukraine would have been completely lost from early but the staging is brilliant, its a fun song and it may go well from 25.
Ukraine would have been completely lost from early but the staging is brilliant, its a fun song and it may go well from 25.
main reason I think she WILL win is that however marmite she is with 25 runners this ain't a vote to evict.
Rybak was 2.1 most of the day of the Final. soon crashed to under 1.5 within 5 or 6 sets of scores in and it was over in a flash!
May 24, 2012 -- 11:35PM, jack12321 wrote:
Can only see sweden, serbia or spain with a hint of a chance now, maybe germany at a pushCan't help but feel its all over and sweden will walk it, praying for a miracle
Agree jack , but feel sweeden chances gone out slightly irrespective of odds and Serbia come in , Spain's odds are mad and Germany a outsiders chance, think Iceland are too big now and would not dismiss norway still
depends whether she continues to say it GB2, or whether she goes back on what was said on some spanish radio station.
The spanish press conference will be worth listening too.
I'd bet she'll go back on whatever she may have said
The spanish press conference will be worth listening too.
I'd bet she'll go back on whatever she may have said
May 24, 2012 -- 11:37PM, HGsuperhoopza wrote:
Its one of the best songs, and the best singer in the competition, the juries will love it.
If the juries voted BEFORE the quote then the sympathy vote with the public might be right
"it may go well from 25."...you got a typo there sean, you obviously meant to type "will" and not "may"
Cheers sean.
I love the draw.
Serbia a very different ballad on after it, but none of the big ballads
I love the draw.
Serbia a very different ballad on after it, but none of the big ballads
why people fancy Serbia ?...it will get little from the wes,t where as Ukraine will get plenty imo.
ah..not good...but voted yesterday for the others??
Its better than freaking Jedward. I'm taking as much 9/2 for top 5 as I can get.
If Spain didn't want to win they wouldn't have chosen 19. I hope Pastora retracts the statement though.
as if she'd say that with a straight face. i doubt she said it at all. but anyway even though i like spain i've never got all the fuss about it.
She's sure to be asked about it. Let's see what she says. If she repeats it then it would be damaging.
I expect she'll 'clarify' what she said
I expect she'll 'clarify' what she said
ESC ought to do what football has done these last 20 years and go commercial. there would be loads of sponsors gagging at 125 million viewers
Rybak drifted to around 2,50 before spain as first country gave him 12. I swept the market down to 1,80
Does to an extent, plenty of ad breaks we don't see with the BBC, which the networks broadcasting it must profit from.
showing solidarity with the plight of people in spain and other parts of europe, likely to win her votes all round.
i don't think so figgy. if she really does go on about how spain can't win - a lot won't vote for her
oh, if she clearly says don't vote for us, then yes Henry. I very much doubt she will say that.
Been backing the others (non sweden) here and there to green up and now they are all almost twice the price. Should have just sat tight.
Should be worried that Bwin are the biggest price Spain? Do they know? Just playing devil's advocate.
Bwin pretty clueless TM66.
They were biggest on some great bets last year. Especially H2H and semi prices.
They were biggest on some great bets last year. Especially H2H and semi prices.
George, obvious that when people here the Swedish song they'd love it and back it, probably the first time half the new backers have heard it. I still love it, have it on repeat.
Well they are a Spanish bookie FFL - I'd be surprised if Boyles or Paddies went best price on Jedward.
Fair enough TM
I still think their specials compiler is poor.
I still think their specials compiler is poor.
Easy to be top price a lot of the bigger prices when you are win only TM2
the swede
Rybak drifted to around 2,50 before spain as first country gave him 12. I swept the market down to 1,80
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Good point about teh drift. It happened as the voting began as at the same there was an enormous plunge on Azer (eventually came 3rd) and like a fool I was one who thought people 'knew' stuff and bailed out a healthy green on Norway and left myself with pennies.
In fact every final I make money on the winner but always a paltry amount. I always seem to doubt my judgment and bail on the good'uns!
Won't happen this year when France, Ukraine and Norway make the Top 3!
Rybak drifted to around 2,50 before spain as first country gave him 12. I swept the market down to 1,80
_________
Good point about teh drift. It happened as the voting began as at the same there was an enormous plunge on Azer (eventually came 3rd) and like a fool I was one who thought people 'knew' stuff and bailed out a healthy green on Norway and left myself with pennies.
In fact every final I make money on the winner but always a paltry amount. I always seem to doubt my judgment and bail on the good'uns!
Won't happen this year when France, Ukraine and Norway make the Top 3!
Bl00dy hell,that was a tough slog getting through that lot ...at least I had the benefit of the fast forward button this morning 
Anyone who voted for Lithuania needs to be humanely put down.I think Carmen Miranda representing Ukraine must have a chance of a Top 4 finish after getting a great draw.The Turkish entry looks like a Sacha Baron Cohen spoof,and I've just remembered who the Icelandic singer reminded me of...Michael Carrick.
Anyone who voted for Lithuania needs to be humanely put down.I think Carmen Miranda representing Ukraine must have a chance of a Top 4 finish after getting a great draw.The Turkish entry looks like a Sacha Baron Cohen spoof,and I've just remembered who the Icelandic singer reminded me of...Michael Carrick.
Won't happen this year when France, Ukraine and Norway make the Top 3!
Still confident for Norway, honest? Could have done with slightly better draw, but there will at least be a HUGE contrast with the song that goes before it, so it will stand out.
Still confident for Norway, honest? Could have done with slightly better draw, but there will at least be a HUGE contrast with the song that goes before it, so it will stand out.
Norway top 10 at 2.6 on here seems good value to me . Won't quite call it buying money but still. Gutted actually I'm convinced he would have won the whole thing with a good draw and that he probably won the semi which would be a nice consolation.
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