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4 days to go until the start of the marathon of the mind Cool

will post the full draw & betting when the qualifiers (and their draws) are known

the sponsors have a few specials up already

147 break 6/5 yes 8/13 no
high break o/u 144.5
tournament centuries o/u 86.5
tournament deciders o/u 4.5

the best 17 day sporting event in the calendar...bring it on Grin
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Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 6:34 PM BST
Bonnie Prince Johnny, will ye no come back again?
Report england_v_south_afri May 4, 2019 6:37 PM BST

May 4, 2019 -- 7:24PM, wondersobright wrote:


its certainly the match up that judd doesn't want


agree !

Report jedi sophie May 4, 2019 6:37 PM BST
Gilbert earned every penny he gets and some...
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 6:37 PM BST
Bonnie Prince Charlie
Mary Queen of Scots
Jock Stein
Superintendent McVitie "The Biscuit" out of 'Taggart'
Honest Swallowin' John Higgins

All Scottish greats.
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 6:39 PM BST
Laugh you left out me alun
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 6:40 PM BST
oops
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 6:42 PM BST
Cry also left out the great gary underson!
Report jackkat May 4, 2019 6:55 PM BST
Whatever you think of Higgins if your a genuine snooker fan you have to tip your hat 2 him to Gilbert MASSIVE congrats for having a great tourny looked like he might have been a bit unlucky in the decider with a kick on the red before he missed the black
Just a quick ? how do people not like snooker its fantastic
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 7:15 PM BST

May 4, 2019 -- 7:42PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


also left out the great gary underson!


and big john

Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 7:17 PM BST
Congrats to Higgins, kept at it and got the job done

But still hope Judd hammers him in the final Happy
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 7:22 PM BST
I love it jackkat & in the last couple of years turned into my fav sport for betting on
Report RozelKid May 4, 2019 7:40 PM BST
get in there - Gilbert 2-11f lmao
Report thegiggilo May 4, 2019 7:44 PM BST
CrazyAlthough great for punters when he went clear..Shocked
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 7:45 PM BST
Hopefully Trump can finish this off quickly and get to bed

Higgins is ripe for a good thrashing in the 16 frames to be played tomorrow
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 7:46 PM BST
First skip drop Sad

Unbelievable these pockets
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 7:49 PM BST
shocking cueing
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 7:53 PM BST
crikey
Report england_v_south_afri May 4, 2019 7:54 PM BST
what a missScared
Report england_v_south_afri May 4, 2019 8:02 PM BST
shot
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:04 PM BST
good pot BUT
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:05 PM BST
I'd have this put back
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:06 PM BST
pink to yellow & then yellow to green = tough
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:06 PM BST
braindead
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:07 PM BST
got the snooker though
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 8:08 PM BST
Why didn't Gary play the pink (1pt) and then black (7pts) to build the lead?
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 8:09 PM BST
CMON EL CABBYTANO
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:10 PM BST
no red on the table at that point al, so free ball was worth 2pts (yellow was the ball on)
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 8:15 PM BST
Ah, of course. Schoolboy error on my part. My eyes are almost square.
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:16 PM BST
15-10
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:19 PM BST
shottttttttttt
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 8:19 PM BST
Maxi alert
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 8:19 PM BST
Broke down on 8
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 8:20 PM BST
No way Higgins beats an on song Trump Happy
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 8:20 PM BST
Insane middle bucket gargle then gobble.
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:22 PM BST
just caught the near jaw, and when you do that, they always drop
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:27 PM BST
another 1 casually in off the near jaw
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:29 PM BST
15-11
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:41 PM BST
hit that too good
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 8:48 PM BST
Finish it off now Judd

Looking in good shape, only the dinner snatcher to beat now
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:49 PM BST
showing off now Laugh
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 8:50 PM BST
I don't think Trump will enjoy playing Higgins. He certainly didn't in the 2011 final.  Will be a proper test, but I hope he comes through it.
Report wisewords May 4, 2019 8:51 PM BST
it's going to be a proper naughty final, alun. proper norty snooker
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:51 PM BST
whats wilsons payout for the semis?
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:51 PM BST
norty, awwww thats so norty!
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 8:52 PM BST
Alain Robidoux would have been cursing in French Canadian into his Chinese water at that showboating.
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 8:52 PM BST
Higgins could grind him down who knows

Hopefully Trump beats him 6-2 in the first session and then he'll relax in my opinion
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:52 PM BST
think its 100k
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:52 PM BST
very nice
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 8:52 PM BST
Alain Robidoux would have played for snookers with only the white left on the table
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:52 PM BST
how much tax u reckon he has to pay on that
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:53 PM BST
none, prize money in sport isn't taxable
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 8:55 PM BST
They should put Robidoux in charge of the Crucible for this event. With any luck he's bring in a team of crack Police Dogs, specially trained to sniff out anyone in the sub-prime audience guilty of breaking wind.
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 8:55 PM BST
Tyson Fury always moans about tax though?

Sure they pay tax, wonder
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:55 PM BST

May 4, 2019 -- 9:53PM, wondersobright wrote:


none, prize money in sport isn't taxable


for real? I thought if ur a pro its your job and taxable income

Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:56 PM BST
they must pay tax of some kind, all the footballers and golfers have accountants!
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:56 PM BST
isn't that for endorsements though & still like that
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:57 PM BST
advertising, sponsors etc
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 8:58 PM BST
An amateur athlete who receives only an Athlete Personal Award is unlikely to be taxable on this income. However, if an athlete is organising their activities in a business-like manner and with a view to making a profit, then their income, including any APA, will probably be taxable.
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 8:58 PM BST
I always thought the prize money itself was non-taxable

in some events 1st round losers win nothing
they've effectively "worked" for nothing

doesn't have any legal basis to class sporting competition as work
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 8:58 PM BST
Never thought of that Alun. Perhaps a crack double act Alun and Alain’s sub prime sniffer dogs.
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 8:59 PM BST
none, prize money in sport isn't taxable

Indeed. Just ask Lester 'Pay Me In Cash Please" Piggott.
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 9:00 PM BST
Yes, professional sports persons are taxed.

I’m sure they are adept at tearing the arse out of expenses etc. though.
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:00 PM BST
dudd v john boy it is
Report Gutless Wonder May 4, 2019 9:00 PM BST
with no interval the knowledgable Crucible crowd will have to put up with two hours of Dennis and JV trick shots
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 9:02 PM BST
Dennis V Davis reenactment of their final frame episode 560
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 9:03 PM BST
Surely the has been is out of steam now, an emotional wreck after today.

Time for a new ‘young’ champion. Arise Judd, and get yourself some half decent chalk with a million season ffs.
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 9:04 PM BST
Bill Werbeniuk famously tried to have the lager he drank as a tax-deductible expense.
Report SontaranStratagem May 4, 2019 9:05 PM BST
18-10 or 18-11 Trump

Can't see Higgins living with him if Trump turns up
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 9:05 PM BST
Alun, perhaps with this early finish all the sub primes clothing could be examined for evidence of wind breaking.

And banned or preferably beaten.
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 9:05 PM BST

May 4, 2019 -- 10:04PM, alun2005 wrote:


Bill Werbeniuk famously tried to have the lager he drank as a tax-deductible expense.


Laugh jesus

Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:06 PM BST
Laugh
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:07 PM BST
judd 1.52 doesn't look a bad price, expected shorter
Report wisewords May 4, 2019 9:07 PM BST
Pro darts players and snooker players prize money is taxable
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 9:07 PM BST
I completely agree BornToWin. They ned to send a message.


Re: Tax, I'm pretty sure that most sports prize money is taxed. A few of the darts players used to moan about it on Sky Sports.

The Werbeniuk story is true.
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 9:09 PM BST
El Cabbytano SEETHING about the table
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:11 PM BST
kicks, table rolling off, cushions bouncing
apart from that all good
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:12 PM BST
ok I stand corrected on the prize money
think you're right though re expenses they won't be paying much tax when the accountants have finished
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:13 PM BST
name em neil Grin
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:13 PM BST
name & shame the counts who are in the comfort zone
Report trebor May 4, 2019 9:14 PM BST
I had 20 years playing sport for a living, it is taxed, but on the plus side I did not pay much Laugh
Report wondersobright May 4, 2019 9:16 PM BST
chalkgate Laugh
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 9:18 PM BST
John Pulman, umpteen times World Snooker Champion never paid tax for the last 50 years or so of his life.
Report alun2005 May 4, 2019 9:19 PM BST
Trebor - you must be Boris 'I'm from Monaco me' Becker, yes?
Report davyb May 4, 2019 9:38 PM BST
looking forward to the final between Judd and john, could be a great game, if snooker was a potting contest then Judd should be a worthy fav to beat john, but as we all know there's more to snooker than just potting and that's where I'm sticking with john to beat Judd, he's a far better all round player, he's more nerve and if john steals a march at some point in this match, expect Judd's attempts at long potting start missing by a distance gifting chance upon chance for Higgins to mop up


huge pressure on Judd to finally become world champ

pressure on Higgins not lose 3 finals in a row


Higgins will NOT lose to Judd
Report johnnythebull May 4, 2019 9:46 PM BST
there's only one player been standing in Trump's way from winning the WC

and that player is himself and even tho' Higgins is nowhere near playing remotely well

he has no peers as a matchplayer not even Selby

Trump could win cosily,he SHOULD win cosily but if Higgins can start well

he is well capable of succumbing

so hopefully we can look forward to another intriguing encounter
Report Latalomne May 4, 2019 10:17 PM BST
Been at a wedding all afternoon.  Other than knowing Dave led 15-16, I know nothing about how it panned out.  Could he have won?  Should he have won?
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 10:30 PM BST
Laugh u missed a fecking thriller! you should rewatch the final frame!
Report Latalomne May 4, 2019 10:38 PM BST
Yeah?
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 10:42 PM BST
for real!
Report GRANTCKING May 4, 2019 10:43 PM BST
was a winona for the ages
Report thegiggilo May 4, 2019 10:50 PM BST
Looking at the semis it has all the makings of being a pile of sh1te..
Report lewisham ranger May 4, 2019 11:16 PM BST
trump has timed his run nicely and since round one has won his matches comfortably, he said at the start of the tournament his plan was to peak for the later stages and I feel he's doing that. the last few frames he played pretty well tonight which is a good sign for the final.

obviously you never know in sport but hard to be confident about john in the same way, he has been all out obviously to win his matches, and I think that could be the decisive factor- trump will have more left. He should have beaten john last year and was outplaying him for large parts of the 2011 final. If the john that turned up last night turns up for the final he will get slaughtered- there's no way that judd would have let him off the hook in the same way. Obviously john will be aware of that but I just wonder how much he has left.

I know I am biased but everything points to judd so it's just fingers crossed now.
Report BornToWin May 4, 2019 11:51 PM BST
Judd has to win, and I think he will.

The blubbering mess Higgins was post match only serves to highlight how spent he is.

His grit has wrote cheques his body and mind can't cash.
Report davyb May 5, 2019 12:38 AM BST
last 9 meetings have gone to Higgins and the hth record reads 22-9 in his favour, no way would I want be steaming in to judd at match odds of 1/2


Higgins to win 18-13 @22/1 18-14@20/1


lets hope for a great final
Report thegiggilo May 5, 2019 1:15 AM BST
Won't be any comebacks in this match someone will make all and by a decent margin wouldn't surprise me if one of them wins by 6 maybe more frames..
Report dlarssonf May 5, 2019 8:51 AM BST
Post match interviews , Judd didn't sound overly confident , concerned about his h2h against higgins etc ..... meanwhile all honest John was worried about was whether he had time for his bowl of pasta between sessions tomorrowLaughLaughLaugh
Report gobelins May 5, 2019 9:32 AM BST
It's a totally valid point from J.Higgins, and recently there have been occasions when they have ended the 3rd session early, to give the players more rest before the final session. Which begs the question - why don't they start the afternoon sessions of the final at least an hour earlier?
Report crepello May 5, 2019 9:58 AM BST
Given the HTH record it makes for an intriguing encounter but, surely, Judd will have too much over 35 frames - Higgins looks spent and no wonder given the effort he had to make to beat Gilbert who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory - just how did he mange to do that?

If, and it is an if, Judd gets flying he could slaughter his opponent - come on Judd - do just that.

I hate to admit it but I would get some pleasure out of Higgins being dished out an embarrassing defeat.
Report wondersobright May 5, 2019 10:37 AM BST
Latalomne • May 4, 2019 10:17 PM BST
Been at a wedding all afternoon. Other than knowing Dave led 15-16, I know nothing about how it panned out. Could he have won? Should he have won?


how inconsiderate of them lats booking the wedding date during the hallowed 17 days, what is wrong with people nowadays?? Laugh

same as in his QF with robbo, john boy dragged dave down to his level
the table wasn't playing good (I expect the same in the final as both john & judd use the triangle chalk)
throw in a big dollop of tension & all the makings were there for a true lakeside classic, and we got 1 Grin

there were tears in the interviews afterwards from both dave & john boy
great to see what winning & losing means to some players
Report Latalomne May 5, 2019 11:25 AM BST
Saw Dave's interview this morning (still not seen the final frame).  Felt really sorry for him.  Seems like a genuinely lovely bloke.  Really hope he finds his way to a title, because there's a decent player in there.  Like 2., he badly needs to get his head in front in one before he'll truly believe (and even then he might put it down to a fluke...).
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