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appformat
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I think Williams might struggle to keep his concentration over the longer distance format.
It's a 50/50 match imo, so Stevens obvious value at 5/2
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Report gobelins • April 21, 2015 6:36 PM BST
M.Stevens played a little bit more conservatively against J.Swail in the qualifiers, and played a little slower, and he played to a decent standard. You can make a small case for saying 5/2 Stevens is over-priced but,it can't be considered anything like a 50-50 match based on current form. And, I'd be interested to know why you think M.Williams might struggle to keep his concentration.
Report appformat • April 21, 2015 6:55 PM BST
2 reasons, firstly they're very good friends and secondly Mark isn't used to these longer format matches.
I've watched Williams quite a lot over the last year and his concentration has been suspect at times.
it' just as I see it, he'll probably go onto win 10-0 now Whoops
Report gobelins • April 21, 2015 7:12 PM BST
I was going to say I don't think concentration will be a problem for M.Williams, given that he has been talking about playing at The Crucible (as a seed) for months now. But, having watched the early exchanges - you might have a point!!
Report tommo1000 • April 21, 2015 7:17 PM BST
on the +50 breaks for this one,i don`t think either have much left in the tank at this level,thinking we`ll see lots of niggly breaks that go just above the 50 mark!!
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 7:38 PM BST

Apr 21, 2015 -- 1:17PM, tommo1000 wrote:


on the +50 breaks for this one,i don`t think either have much left in the tank at this level,thinking we`ll see lots of niggly breaks that go just above the 50 mark!!


after seeing that first frame u will need this to go all the way, club snooker on show

Report tommo1000 • April 21, 2015 7:44 PM BST
agreed,maybe they were just loosening up
Report Pokermonster • April 21, 2015 8:14 PM BST
Why is this match not on the red button or online?  Allen versus Day is on both.
Report Pokermonster • April 21, 2015 8:15 PM BST
Day is a terrible match player isn't it?  Always seems to suffer a meltdown and lose six or seven in a row.
Report appformat • April 21, 2015 8:18 PM BST
Allen different gravy though isnt he?
Report Pokermonster • April 21, 2015 8:19 PM BST
He certainly was today, but I thought Day was awful.
Report Pokermonster • April 21, 2015 8:20 PM BST
I've had a bet on Allen outright at 37/1 so that should scupper his chances.  I was intending to lay it off some time down the line.
Report tommo1000 • April 21, 2015 9:16 PM BST
turning into an excellent match
Report Pokermonster • April 21, 2015 9:17 PM BST
Yes, Matthew is playing very well.
Report ccd • April 21, 2015 9:44 PM BST
Jazz on the cue ball! Better than **** on the cue ball...
Report ccd • April 21, 2015 9:44 PM BST
Cant believ3 thst git x'd out. Jeez.
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 9:45 PM BST
For all Matthews talent he has been a right mug throughout his career. Should have won at least 2 World Championships but mugged himself many a time.
Report ccd • April 21, 2015 9:48 PM BST
He used to be a real winner. Great guy to bet on in his early days.
Report teessider7 • April 21, 2015 9:48 PM BST
Odd frame this, good watching but has swung from the sublime to the ridiculous with plenty of WTCBG thrown in by JV for good measure.
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 9:50 PM BST
I need 1 50 break in the next 2 frames for a small acca, PlainPlainPlain

1   
Snooker
World Championship
Mark Williams v Matthew Stevens
21st of April 2015 7:00 pm
Total 50+ Breaks 1st Session
Over (5.5) @ 5/4
Pending


ShockedShocked
Report teessider7 • April 21, 2015 9:53 PM BST
this gets funnier! Crowd P!ssing themselves.
Report Hank Hill • April 21, 2015 9:55 PM BST
How many times did Williams mug that frame?! Cry
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 9:57 PM BST
Took in turns Hank! It was a proper mug fest!
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:00 PM BST
These cushions are made of to class trampoline material
Report gentlemanjohn • April 21, 2015 10:05 PM BST
Proper mug fests are what make the world champs so special. Way better than a 147 any day of the week.
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:07 PM BST
williams was ur nap of the first round wasnt he gentleman john?
Report wisewords • April 21, 2015 10:07 PM BST
CLASSIC MUGFESRT
Report wisewords • April 21, 2015 10:08 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:10 PM BST
I need a 50 break wisone for a small acca, these 2 mugs making me sweat LaughLaugh
Report gentlemanjohn • April 21, 2015 10:10 PM BST
Certainly had him as a banker grant..but wouldn't be losing the faith just yet
Report treble • April 21, 2015 10:11 PM BST
100% agree with Gentlemanjohn. Those types of frames are brilliant to watch.
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:11 PM BST
this is pathetic
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:11 PM BST
williams peaked too soon, 4 weeks ago
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:13 PM BST
14 years ago
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:14 PM BST
Laugh
Report wisewords • April 21, 2015 10:15 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thegiggilo • April 21, 2015 10:19 PM BST
Mark Williams hasn't played well for 10 years,the only reason he's had some results this season is because as mentioned for the last several years on here the match play and standards have gone backwards...
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:19 PM BST
I wish I backed stevens prematch now, fancied him when he draw came out Cry
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:20 PM BST
Matthew Stevens 150 for the title
Mark Williams 65 for the title
ShockedShockedShocked
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:21 PM BST
Stevens must be value at 150`s
Report gentlemanjohn • April 21, 2015 10:22 PM BST
Both missing a zero
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:22 PM BST
no value in stevens, cant win
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:22 PM BST
Grin
Report wisewords • April 21, 2015 10:25 PM BST
harsh but true
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:25 PM BST
I need a 50 break in the final frame, time to lay off isnt it LaughLaugh
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:29 PM BST
no value in stevens, cant win

Ah b ut this is an exchange Grant, he will trade at much less when he is 5-5 with RonnieWink
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:29 PM BST
ive taken my stake back, 50+ break next frame +106, no 50+ break 0
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:29 PM BST

Apr 21, 2015 -- 4:29PM, Angel Gabrial wrote:


no value in stevens, cant winAh b ut this is an exchange Grant, he will trade at much less when he is 5-5 with Ronnie


Cool

Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:30 PM BST
GRANTCKING • April 16, 2015 12:59 PM BST
got to think stevens has a good chance to beat willams

Yet I didnt back it CryCry im a mug
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:36 PM BST
f ucking hell ive been shafted
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:38 PM BST
Grant did you take any of that 150`S???

It`s all gone Laugh...only 100`s left.
Report tommo1000 • April 21, 2015 10:38 PM BST
somebody,anybody please make a 50,give me a chance for tommorow
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:38 PM BST
tommo i needed 1 in 3 frames here, 3 times broken down in the 40
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:38 PM BST
joke stuff
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:40 PM BST
Someone just put up £20 @ 120
Report tommo1000 • April 21, 2015 10:40 PM BST
yep,i thought I was well on for + 9.5 50`s,now im`e not to confidentWhoops
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:40 PM BST
BOOM
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:40 PM BST
i win
Report wisewords • April 21, 2015 10:40 PM BST
well done seaking
Report GRANTCKING • April 21, 2015 10:41 PM BST
ty wiseone
Report wisewords • April 21, 2015 10:41 PM BST
I missed the end of the last frame, what happened?
Report YOMOMMA • April 21, 2015 10:43 PM BST
Hi anyone want an arb. Steadman +5.5 frames 4.8 betfair sportsbook. lay 4.3
Report tommo1000 • April 21, 2015 10:45 PM BST
gotta hand it to stevens,he must have been practising,1000% better than when I last watched him,just need him to give Williams a few frames for the +50`s to come in
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 10:46 PM BST
£166 as well
Report YOMOMMA • April 21, 2015 10:48 PM BST
or just lay it for a valu ebet. osullivan is 7-2 up and will win 10-5 or better easily. probably finish 10-3.
Report gentlemanjohn • April 21, 2015 10:48 PM BST
What price do you reckon to lay off Angel?
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 11:16 PM BST
When he is 4-4...5-5 with Ronnie and a 50/1 poke for the title John
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 11:18 PM BST
But i would let it ride John until after he beats Ronnie!
Report gentlemanjohn • April 21, 2015 11:23 PM BST
I like that, fighting talk! Stranger things have happened, thats for sure

Got this match spectacularly wrong, didnt think Matt still had it in him. But wouldn't be weighing it in just yet
Report Angel Gabrial • April 21, 2015 11:39 PM BST
Matthew has not beaten MJW in a tourny for a long time so he will be over the moon as to how this match has panned out so far, but of course you are right he still needs to finish off the match, so if you  took the 150 on offer but want to trade off £15 @130 it is there John.

If is worth noting that when he has met Ronnie it is often close mid match. So 4-4..5-5 is expected at least and Matt beat Ronnie in the Welsh.
Report gentlemanjohn • April 22, 2015 12:10 AM BST
Yes you are right...was 5-5 when they met in the semis here a few years ago, i had to check that as in my head i had ronnie handing him his cards right from the start.

Cant be laying off now if you're on. Got to live a little, roll with it until the semis at least ;)
Am guessing Matthew is one of the nicer guys on the circuit, dont mind seeing him have a good run at all.
Report Angel Gabrial • April 22, 2015 12:25 AM BST
Absolutely John, roll with it. He can give Ronnie a beating for sure, he won`t tie up and can play like Ronnie in the balls. I`m feeling more confident the more i analyse it.

Of course the semi would be a bridge too far ;)
Report gentlemanjohn • April 22, 2015 12:31 AM BST
You can over think this game sometimes too. I actually watched a fair bit of Matt's qualifier against Swail and i completely ruled him out on the basis of that. It was a match Swail could nearly have won, it was that bad. But of course Stevens has that bit of class and pedigree that will shine through on some occasion you're not expecting it.

The thing about Ronnie is if he turned up and gave Matthew as little respect as he gives the customary mugs he's drawn against, like today, he could get burned. Experience tells you it shouldnt happen, but you never know.
Report Angel Gabrial • April 22, 2015 12:56 AM BST
I doubt Stevens looked forward to the qualifiers, it`s quite a grueling 3 match set up and dampish ambiance. Most of the top 16 would struggle to perform impressively under those conditions.
Report gobelins • April 22, 2015 7:49 AM BST
I'm not sure what qualifying match you were watching Gentleman John. I went to Ponds Forge for the final qualifying round and thought M.Stevens played very solidly against J.Swail. At 6-4 there was a 55 minute frame which Stevens finally edged on the black, after Swail had gone in-off but after that it was plain sailing. There were lots of long safety exchanges, but I'm surprised you think Swail could have won.
Report gentlemanjohn • April 22, 2015 11:27 AM BST
No fair enough, gob. Hold my hands up to having got Stevens all wrong here. He did beat Swail fair and square, but there were a couple of other frames, including the last, that Joe should have won. Do you remember the blue Stevens played in the last? Playing safe, he simply nudged it towards the pocket for Joe to pot, I thought it was the worst shot i've seen all season, still shaking my head thinking about it.

Anyway, Matthew is a guy with a lot of ability, but he's languishing at 38 in the rankings for a reason which escapes me, but every now and again he pops up and has a little run. Wish i had the foresight to recognise when the planets are going to align for him! Anyway i hope he does it for backers, but just don't have him over the line yet.
Report Angel Gabrial • April 22, 2015 11:37 AM BST
Didn`t Stevens start showboating in the final which Murphy won? I remember him playing a shot left handed which cost him a frame. He was 9-6 up in that final but then started to get far too casual.

Very capable of excellence but also of self muggery.
Report gentlemanjohn • April 22, 2015 11:45 AM BST
I cant recall him showboating Angel but i cant remember last week never mind 10 years ago!! He hates using the rest doesn't he, so maybe that's why he might have played left-handed?
Report dlarssonf • April 22, 2015 3:01 PM BST
In fairness, Shaun Murphy was brilliant , especially in the last session of that final
Report gobelins • April 22, 2015 3:27 PM BST
gentlemanjohn - I don't remember that specific shot, as there were 6 tables in front of us, and your eyes get drawn here, there and everywhere! I'm not saying M.Stevens was brilliant, but he played far more measured snooker than I expected, and was very disciplined. He produced something similar in the 2nd mini-session last night were he was solid rather than outstanding. It's good to see him playing to this sort of standard again, but M.Williams has been exceptionally poor.
Report gentlemanjohn • April 22, 2015 3:44 PM BST
Agree with all that gob, only thing I could say for MJW is that he was probably unlucky not to get a couple of those scrappy frames in the second session, but no way it would have made a difference in the end.

I wonder if Mark has built up his antipathy towards the venue so much that it affects his form there?
Report YOMOMMA • April 22, 2015 3:48 PM BST
Haven't seen the draw too closely but Matthew Stevens looks to be playing well enough to have a good run in the tournament.
Report gentlemanjohn • April 22, 2015 3:54 PM BST
Yep got some duffer in the next round called Robbie or Ronald or somethign like that

But i'm not repeating the mistake of writing him off which is probably not great news for Stevens' backers!
Report YOMOMMA • April 22, 2015 5:25 PM BST
Should be match of the round.
Report Senyatta • April 23, 2015 4:14 PM BST
cant believe ronnie is so short. 1.12 on here 1/9 most books.i think he will win but i will have to have a lay at those odds and maybe back him later in the match.
Report Angel Gabrial • April 23, 2015 5:33 PM BST
Mid match will be 4-4...5-5 if it runs to form.
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