Anyone else fed up of refs deciding games of rugby?

French refs are ruining t14 and they are doing their best to ruin all the rugby they are involved in. This exeter game and the video refs interventions (or not) is just silly. Play any 1 min of any game of rugby and you will find a pen and that is where now are.

Even happening in League now, although it seems more that the TMO are getting in on the act.In fairness though, they do try to stick with the referees interpretation

The one that gets me now is the jackler  clearly just holding the ball on the ground or on the player and making no attempt to lift the ball giving the impression that the player on the grounds is holding on to it. The ref is fooled 99/100. The amount of tries given that clearly aren't but can't be overturned due to being given by the ref is shocking. Theres too much obvious (wrong) guessing by refs now -  both codes I'd say.

The ref in the gloucester game is either a liar or corrupt - and please take me to court and sue me! He said he saw the ball on the ground - he clearly did not so is a liar. Guesswork is now at the heart of rugby reffing.

wtf was that in the St helens game - pefectly good try, ref looking right at it says no try, video ref replays about 1000 times every replay showing it a try and he gives no try. Utterly bizarre.

And as usual,  ref balls up ends up with a try for the team that gets the decision. Uncanny.

TMO in Leeds game was taking so long to give a decision it was ridiculous.

WTf is the point of the head protocol stuff if they are going to ignore it to get the favoured team to the final? The French player would be writhing on the floor and the tv replaying million times if other way round. Shouldn't matter and  shockingly inept at the very least from the whole ref team in Bor v bath.

Lukey boy not eventrying to hide the fact he's bet on the saints tonight!

resurrect this thread in about 5 years when all this is being investigated. Genuinely not sure if just plain old incompetence.

southern hem refs don't even care about being impartial when fiji teams play -  a forward pass as forward as can be (from aussie team for try) and just ignored.

spyker - what was the highest price Force hit in running???

soz, didn't see.

League has had it if it's reffed like this idiot in the saints game. 3 times leeds players have run into sts who couldn't move and 3 times got a pen. Just now he ran head straight into a shoulder of a sts player who could not move obv and the sts player gets yellow and Leeds the game due to ref. Ref said he saw less players head shake when he ran not the player - well don't run into a shoulder that you don't need to ffs! ref wood def not hav given yellow the other way round.I genuinely don't know if it's corruption or just incompetence as listening to the video refs they clearly don't get out much..
Rugby refs of both codes now basically decide who wins the game too many times and its shouldn't be so.