Autumn Internationals

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The head to head records shows that Wales really struggle against Australia:

21     25 November 2001     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     13–21      Australia    
22     14 June 2003     Telstra Stadium, Sydney     30–10      Australia    
23     26 November 2005     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     24–22      Wales     2005 Autumn International
24     4 November 2006     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     29–29     draw     2006 Autumn International
25     26 May 2007     Telstra Stadium, Sydney     29–23      Australia     2007 Welsh tour of Australia
26     2 June 2007     Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane     31–0      Australia
27     15 September 2007     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     20–32      Australia     Pool stage of 2007 Rugby World Cup
28     29 November 2008     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     21–18      Wales     2008 Autumn International
29     28 November 2009     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     12–33      Australia     2009 Autumn International
30     6 November 2010     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     16–25      Australia     2010 Autumn International
31     21 October 2011     Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand     21–18      Australia     3rd place playoff of 2011 Rugby World Cup
32     3 December 2011     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     18–24      Australia     2011 Autumn International
33     9 June 2012     Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane     27–19      Australia     Welsh Tour of Australia
34     16 June 2012     Etihad Stadium, Melbourne     25–23      Australia
35     23 June 2012     Sydney Football Stadium, Sydney     20–19      Australia
36     1 December 2012     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     12–14      Australia     2012 Autumn International
37     30 November 2013     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     26–30      Australia     2013 Autumn International
38     8 November 2014     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     28–33      Australia     2014 Autumn International
39     10 October 2015     Twickenham Stadium, London, England     15–6      Australia     2015 Rugby World Cup Pool A
40     5 November 2016     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff     8–32      Australia     2016 Autumn International
41     11 November 2017     Millennium Stadium, Cardiff             2017 Autumn International

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Evening All
Well I Think that Wales with seven of the lions playing are good value at about 7/4. I know Oz won last week but before that they hadnt done that well and I an going with Wales to spin it wide and win this. Also fancy the French with 18 points start ,think thats huge.

Wish I could find those books that have Wales as fav. Aust currently 1.60. Seems a bit lean. Betting blind no idea about Wales. Side looks fine to me.

Ireland seems short against SA?

Why do we have these clashes. Surely they could put the Ireland match on Sunday. Happens every year.

Jesus I hope the next game will offer more entertainment. What a pathetic match Eng Argies.

Completely get why AUS are favs, but 1.46 isn't a price I'd take.

well do what i am doing ,back wales at 5/2 and lay Oz

betfair market ****g up lol

Great to watch a proper rugby side

Wales had their chances but too many mistakes.

My Welsh friends at the match felt Aus got all the refusing decisions. Interested to know what people watching on TV thought.

Finally a heads up for anyone going to any of the upcoming Welsh games it took us 50+ minutes to get thru the Principality stadium "enhanced" security. It was a feckin nightmare
Got to our seats about a minute after kick off.

Referee decisions

Well the penalty count was 15-3 in favour of Wales. Judging by the crowd shots everyone looked like drunken lunatics so the lopsided penalty count probably escaped their notice!!!

Referee was fair,the problem was everytime Wales scored they gave the ball straight back from the kick off and let Oz score at will.
They had enough chances in the second half to have won the game just didnt take them.

Adam Coleman out a HUGE loss for us. Not to mention Israel Folau. Overall I think the forwards are in for a tough night and there's nothing to look forward to in the bench. Not sure the two big K's in the centres are the right mix. Tried that last year and look what happened. Not convinced England deserve to be 1.43 though. That's All Black odds and I think England is a fair way off All Black play. The thing I dread about watching the match is Owen F. Watching him lining up for a goal kick is unbearable. They should show that to the terrorists in Guantanamo they'll be confessing to killing JFK just to make it stop.

Gone for England myself on the match odds 1.47. Weather and Ozzies missing a few. Think the opposition will bring the best out of England today.

GL with your bets.

Hey Kamikazee
Think watching that smiler from nz is more painful

That was barely a penalty and a ridiculously long advantage.

Entertaining so far.

WTF was that?

Yes technically that is off side.

Should've gone for three.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOO!

No.

If England don't buck up they'll lose this.

Bummer!

Had a small lay of England at 1.44. They don't look like winning to me. Of course they can suddenly step up but right now not confident.

God england are boring

wallabies playing against 17 here

Harsh yellow on Hooper.

England should've gone for 7.

I HATE that!! Loose carry.

England are pants.

A drop goal attempt. You gotta be kidding!

What a **** of a referee. we all know about this facking clown

Pure luck!

What a farce of a game it can be when it rains.

Another shyte TMO decision.

How on earth are England winning this. They are dross

Not sure you can say it was a shyte decision.  There was nothing clear and obvious that the ball had touched the line.  It looked like it *might* have done from the worst angle and looked like it hadn't from the better one.

You can't give this one either.  I think he's scored, but there's no evidence of it.

more prove of video evidence spoiling sport

Oz could play another 80 and not get a decision. Appalling from the officials

To me the key decisions that went against Australia at pivotal times in the match were all absolutely correctly called by the T.M.O.

Got to agree with slippy

The score 25 - 6 does Australia no favours whatsoever, lovely finish by Johnny May there though.

25-6. Demolition job

Correction 30-6 may be 32. Have the Aus ever played in rain before?

I think the ref and the T.M.O. had excellent games personally.

Another try for England !! 30 - 6

referee to inexperienced to handle the game. He has spoiled the game

Nov 18, 2017 -- 4:59PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

I think the ref and the T.M.O. had excellent games personally.Another try for England !! 30 - 6

100%.

Joe Launchbury Man of Match lol

New Zealand have been AWFUL in the first 25 mins

silly wee errors cost Scots the lead. They needed those points. NZ bench way stronger should swing it for
them. Very good effort from a Scotland pack I would never have expected to see start together

Good stuff from Scotland. Dire stuff from Wales earlier.

and again they blow good FP

Punished for not converting own advantage. Unlucky with the injury tho

Two hookers in the front row for Scotland. This is unlikely to go well

Can we go uncontested sir, please!!!

The obstruction call to disallow a try when we were down 6-13 was particularly ludicrous. How can the great rugby brains that oversee the rules deem that Robshaw was onside? Robshaw was running back from offside,a lazy runner the term used these days, so whether he was obstructed or not was irrelevant.

Mind you,it's impossible to know wtf Moore thought he was doing. How he's still getting Wallaby caps is beyond comprehension.

Despite my bitterness about the officiating there is no doubt the better team won.

Actually I think the Scots had more to complain about the officials than the Aussies. They should of got a penalty try late on and
Reid should of been sin binned. Would of been 15 against 13 for the last 7 minutes. Scotland played really well and as we know the officials should penalise New Zealand a lot more than they do. Ritchie McCaw got away with murder in most of his games.
Surprise you were not going mad Northenlite

what was really annoying about the Read incident was that the ref concocted a knock on to stop the play.
How could it have been a knock on & how could the ball have shot backward without some intervention. It defied
the laws of physics.
Either the TJ or TMO were in refs ear telling him about something but he chose to ignore it.
It may have been the offside but he'd already blown up for that.
Along with deciding Price had contributed to Hogg being taken out in the air Kiw's could easily have been looking at 4 cards
on the day instead of two and they would all have been difficult to dispute.
Scotland certainly had them under a lot of pressure, just not quite enough

NZ are by far the worst at infringing inside their red zone. They don't even care if they get a YC. It's a price they are prepared to pay. All teams do it NZ are just blatant.

Wallabies the better team for 60-70 minutes but MASSIVE difference in bench players. England bringing on Lions while we had club players. Time for Cheika to ditch his under performing favourites.

Scotland must be favourites this week.

nah Aussies are quite warm favs. You will probably get not far off 2/1 on here for Scotland.
Despite last weeks decent showing the pack is still missing a lot of players, particularly in the front row.
Scotland don't have the power or squad depth of England so Aussies should get more joy in possession. Scotland
will attack the wide channels more so a different challenge for them in defence. Seems to be a feeling Auss don't
like turning for kicks in behind them so might see more of that than against NZ. Scotland kick chase is usually very good.
Forecast to be cold but dry so reckon we should see a few tries.

It's hard to believe after last week's matches.

Lineouts look about even. We may get the better of the scrum. Scots I think will better at the breakdown. Their backs look fast and the playmakers are good. Wallabies are bigger and should crash over the ad line. Scots slowing down the ball effectively like their NZ cousins, and like other UK teams effective at holding up players in the tackle. Their kicking should be good. Stephen Moore starting in his last test match an absolute. Shouldn't even be on tour. There is no room for sentimentality these days.

I can't see much in it to be honest.

I wouldn't let that useless ????? play again for Australia.  What a KLOWN

backing oz at h/t 4/1 could be a bit of value

They look peeeeeased off.

Beale back to his best giving away trys.  Australia are really a poor side

Fair play to Scotland but if I was the Aussie coach I'd be absolutely fuming with their abject display.

Slippy - the coach is to blame.  He picks the team.  4 or 5 of them would never play for me again if I was in charge

well it was value for two minutes

Can only presume this AB drift is "patriotic Northern Hemisphere" money off the back of Scotland's win?  Everything else that's happened today suggests the price should have gone the other way.

I enjoy watching the women play - very entertaining.  Much better than the men.

it was decades ago I first saw a match
it was england v scotland and I was impressed with their free running game

Good half from the Welsh, TBF.  Restricted the ABs to two decent chances, both of which they took, but 11-12 at HT keeps their hopes alive.  Got to be worried about the impact the injuries they picked up in the first half will have, though.

I have now had to stop watching the lady's game.  A commentator on telly has just apologised for them swearing.  I am appalled and have taken a fence.  Now what can I watch.

you should get that fence you've stolen fenced first

Didn't see that coming. Even without the sending off Scotland looked in control.
The tries lost were basic errors & I still look on in wonder at how well SH teams exploit that. The NH sides just cannot seem to
score off turnover ball so regularly.
About the sending off, why did he do that??? I hate reds unless it is reckless & dangerous, that ticked those boxes.

One dumb brain snap.

1.22 is very short for an 11 point game, IMHO.

Boom

GC pal

Much better from the Boks !

Well done Wales