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artigas
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i've been looking at this game for a while and looking at a sizeable bet, I really do think the AB will win however where is the opinion of true price, I think they could well trade higher in game although there is also the risk of missing the boat, any opinions on a correct starting price and also whether the opinion is a close fought contest or a 15 point victory, thanks.
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Report stewardsenquirey November 7, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
I'll need to check my Crystal ball to answer that I'm afraid Plain
Who knows is the honest answer.
I still think England will shorten prematch(but that's a pure guess)
Report Eeternaloptimist November 7, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
Gut feeling. England are bringing in new personnel and they haven't had the chance to gel and some aren't nearly the equivalent of the players they replace. New Zealand are not the exhausted outfit they were in 2012 and haven't quite got that defeat out of their systems and will be looking to put down a marker for next year. If England can keep it below two clear scores I'll be surprised.
Report stewardsenquirey November 8, 2014 1:54 AM GMT
Fair play Eeternaloptimist(That's a bloody tough forum name to spell after a few jars Silly)
AB's are the AB'S,yes they are the best team in rugby currently.But how many bad games have England played under Lancaster ? How many bad games have England played at Twickenham(alright,the odd few) but it still is a bit of a fortress for them.
Hope most of the above posters haven't lumped on the AB'S for the WC,because We all know that won't happen Cool
Report stewardsenquirey November 8, 2014 2:43 AM GMT
What price would you make me a totally decimated England team lead against The World Champions at some point in todays game ?
(If only Bookies offered these sorts of bets)
6/4 sounds a fair price to me.
Report stewardsenquirey November 8, 2014 2:45 AM GMT
Least England will make it to the RL final though.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 10:20 AM GMT
Not exactly a 'totally decimated' England team, they have 5 first choice forwards, both half backs, a full back and as regards the thee quarters i would suggest only Tuilaigi is sure of his place..so who knows where the others truly rank.  So, entire spine intact.
Report stewardsenquirey November 8, 2014 11:09 AM GMT
Missing 10 players from the squad that would be in with a shout of starting.
Come on Ozy,We've always got on ok,but I would call that decimated.
You still disagree ?
You think the AB'S will walk this,so fair play Cool
You'll be glad to know I'm watching it out,so won't be around to annoy you.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 11:27 AM GMT
Laugh

Not 'totally decimated' as per your original assertion, no.  By current internatinal standards it feels standard to have around 5 certain starters out injured at any one time.  So Cole, Corbisiero, Launcbury/Parling and Tuiligi come back into the team....that's only  4.

I don't think Ab's will walk it.  I think Abs will win and beat the cap.
Report Latalomne November 8, 2014 2:39 PM GMT
What a try!
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 2:40 PM GMT
WoW...how did he score that?
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 2:41 PM GMT
Have AB's left their defence behind in the US?  Never seen worse
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 2:42 PM GMT
That's one of the best tries I've seen on this ground
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 2:43 PM GMT
oh..May should have got that away
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 2:43 PM GMT
Vis - the defending was AWFUL
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 2:43 PM GMT
Maybe still a cracking try though
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 2:44 PM GMT
ABs are still in the Waffle House
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 2:44 PM GMT
It's a long time since I saw an AB's team start as bad as this.  They have been BRUTAL
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 2:45 PM GMT
AB's are shell shocked
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 2:47 PM GMT
NZ price holding up astonishingly well
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 2:50 PM GMT
rubbish defence eng
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 2:51 PM GMT
how the feck does Cruden brush off two big Eng forwards like that?
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
A brutal kick by Cruden
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 2:53 PM GMT
i'd like to see that nZ try again.
Report khyber kim November 8, 2014 2:58 PM GMT
I hope we aren't going to see another England side find a way to get beat after a bright start
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
Hartley Cry
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
nothing much in that really
Report Doctor Feelgood November 8, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
That was not even close to a penalty
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 3:07 PM GMT
Wilson is having a poor game in the loose
Report FredRescue November 8, 2014 3:09 PM GMT
Remember that guy Jeff wilson?
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:20 PM GMT
great first half from England.
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
taking a long time for the draw price to wake up
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 3:28 PM GMT
I feel Eng needed a bigger lead from that half -  a bit like this morning
Report Platini November 8, 2014 3:28 PM GMT
Are NZ value now?  Eng to tire 2nd half?
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:40 PM GMT
Ab's discipline is very poor.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:44 PM GMT
Cruden never looks confident over the ball
Report Mike-lfc November 8, 2014 3:45 PM GMT
Worst conversion ive ever seen
Report Doctor Feelgood November 8, 2014 3:49 PM GMT
How does McCaw get away with it match after match?
Report wit-ham November 8, 2014 3:50 PM GMT
how do they get away with protecting the ball carrier all the time 3 ab infront off the one with the ball stopping the tacklers
Report wit-ham November 8, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
knock on
Report wit-ham November 8, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
knock on
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
no try for me
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
If that ball was on the line, then an Eng touch grounded it first anyway before whitelock came through
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
good point, Vis
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 3:59 PM GMT
this has to be a card
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:59 PM GMT
Owens wants to make his own decision, ****!
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 3:59 PM GMT
"That's fine, thank you, Nigel!"

Grow a set u muppet!
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:00 PM GMT
Napoleon on the whistle!  who would want to be a TMO when he is refing!
Report Doctor Feelgood November 8, 2014 4:07 PM GMT
Brown does precisely what McCaw gets away with and is penalised
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:10 PM GMT
wtf?
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:12 PM GMT
Mr Offload should have passed there
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:17 PM GMT
Meanwhile Wales have a surprising close loss to the Aussies.......
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 4:21 PM GMT
That crowd at this match are full of w ankers
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:26 PM GMT
awful decision for Eng to scrum here as will use up all time even if they do get a try
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
^ agreed
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
It would have been far better to take a quick 3 and then come back and maybe scrum forever in the chance of getting a try for a draw
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
lol time for restart anyway Laugh
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
It simply wasn't a penalty try or anything like it.  celebrity refereeing.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
Time for Nigel to hang up the boots.  Thinks he is bigger than the game.
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
Robshaw Cry
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
Eng need to be at full strength to have any chance come RWC
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
Owens was a DISGRACE
Report althespanner November 8, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
agreed re penalty try    but NZ game management more than enough   the 10 min sin bin was dealt with superbly
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
SA should do about same to Ire now I feel.  Best Ire can hope for is to be within a try
Report khyber kim November 8, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
All a bit late. McCaw must looks forward to Mr Owens being in charge.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
Once England have a full deck, i think they will beat NZ in World Cup. 

Need to move on from obsession with driving mauls off lineouts as their sole attacking play.
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
Sky saying SA are many people's dark horses for RWC.  Hardly difficult to work out is it in a tournie where realistically only 3 teams  can win it.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 5:37 PM GMT
yellow
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
I agree with Poite.  Too much irish bias on this forum and in the comm box Laugh
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
elbow to the windpipe..play on!
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
How good is JAck mcGrath?  Immense!
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:03 PM GMT
arrogance from the Boks not taking their points.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
Someone needs to remind them we are 6 nations ChampsWink
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:16 PM GMT
Same old boring Bokke Bokke
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:27 PM GMT
Its going to make for terrifying viewing at scrum time if Ireland have to use their bench  And they will.

Still, shure we won a half!
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
Boom!!!!!!!!!!!1
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:46 PM GMT
more hubris from the boks
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
Plain
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
yellow...lol...never in a million years
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
game on now
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
Shocked be the hokey
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
Surely even Ire cannot feck this up now?  1.03 is a bit rich though
Report Latalomne November 8, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
Blimey
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
we've battered em Cool
Report TheVis November 8, 2014 7:07 PM GMT
Ah well that settles it.

Very well played both Ire and Scot today.  Certainly shakes things up a bit and gives the SH a few things to consider.  Couldn't see it myself.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:09 PM GMT
Tier 1, vis and 6 nations Champs to boot  Now slaying the SH giants.

When is that World Cup on again?
Report Kriskin November 8, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
Ireland have been superb today.  Still have players to come back as well.  The Boks had their full squad with them
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
we've been ordinary enough in truth.  sign of a goo team.
Report Ozymandius November 8, 2014 7:14 PM GMT
very good defensively i should add.
Report stewardsenquirey November 9, 2014 1:14 AM GMT
Well Well Well.
Congratulations to Ireland,thats some victory.
England did as expected,a good showing with a decimated squad Wink
And once again the Wallabies beat Wales.
All in all,Ireland are the big shockers(And Bonnie Scotland)
Great wins for them both(how far I would trust that as a form line is up for question for both for me)
But take nothing away from either.
Well played.
Report stewardsenquirey November 9, 2014 1:14 AM GMT
Well Well Well.
Congratulations to Ireland,thats some victory.
England did as expected,a good showing with a decimated squad Wink
And once again the Wallabies beat Wales.
All in all,Ireland are the big shockers(And Bonnie Scotland)
Great wins for them both(how far I would trust that as a form line is up for question for both for me)
But take nothing away from either.
Well played.
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