Pumas v England

team sheets?

Is this game being shown on TV anywhere?

on BBC2

Argentina: 15 Martin Bustos Moyano, 14 Matias Orlando, 13 Gonzalo Tiesi, 12 Felipe Contepomi (captain), 11 Manuel Montero, 10 Benjamin Urdapilleta, 9 Martin Landajo, 8 Tomas Leonardi, 7 Benjamin Macome, 6 Julio Farias Cabello, 5 Mariano Galarza, 4 Esteban Lozada, 3 Maximiliano Bustos, 2 Martin Garcia Veiga, 1 Pablo Henn.

England: 15 Mike Brown, 14 Christian Wade, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Billy Twelvetrees, 11 David Strettle, 10 Freddie Burns, 9 Lee Dickson, 8 Ben Morgan, 7 Matt Kvesic, 6 Tom Wood (c), 5 Dave Attwood, 4 Joe Launchbury, 3 David Wilson, 2 Rob Webber, 1 Joe Marler.

cheers kc

Cheers bud

BIG bet for me on England @ 1.52

Pumas by 6 for me, always underated at home & england nowt special defensively shipping 21pts vs a South American invitation/scratch team

gone for wade 1st try scorer / each way other bets will be placed after watching opening mins

Got to be the most exciting attacking line-up England could pick, but that doesn't always work out in reality (i.e. Burns starts going sideways and nobody has the sense to straighten up). Very interesting team with some really good young players, but mistakes seem inevitable and they could find a few problems with defensive organisation.

Couple of these Pumas I know nothing at all about, but tempted to have a little interest in the home team here.

Argentina +7.5 @ 1.83 for me.

Argentina have left out a lot their top players

every watched a rugby match in Argentina? esp against "the enemy"

LMFAO at the tin-pot local band!!

& they WIN the anthem!

Market reckons England have won I think.

1.5 looking very big now!

i'm pouring a big glass of Arge Malbec and sip and smile

cheers

Burns has a great boot on him

Argentina 0 - 6 England

Poor play by England

1.5 looks big now, but it didn't at the start of the game apparently.

Enormous price swing, 1.5 down to 1.14, on the basis of 6pts. With kicking like that it might be justified though!

10pt wind?

This CHUNT reffing loves the whistle.  Saw him plenty of times in the rabo-direct

Isn't he a kiwi from the super15?

Thought that was a clear Argie pen there. Webber never released at all.

England go up the other end and score.

Ur right RM

TRY time England

well worked from D flowing into attack, thro Wade/Ben Morgan/Joseph for a good finish by Strettle.

I eat my pie Sirs!

Argentina 0 - 11 England

Argies certainly will get killed if they don't stop Wade's runs.

Ben Morgan - now there's an 8 in form who should be across t'otehr side of the world....

from a betting point of view ...and remembering the argentinian football team collapse when they played boliva at the la plaz stadium (2000 ft above sea level)...the salta stadium is 3780ft above sea level.....soooooo does anyone know how long has the England team been in situ at altitude and also how long has the argentinian team been resident that high???  at some point that altitude will take its toll on the least aclimatised. Even a big lead can wither away with flagging bodies? anyone got any info???

might have.....

whats it worth....

Pumas look like they could concede at cricket score here.

Well, this looks suspiciously like it might be all over already.

Very good performance by England.

England different class. Playing GREAT stuff

Argentina 0 - 18 England

decent rugby

LOL...well the price England is at the moment that thought could be worth a lot to the people with the info i'm trying to find out ...though the England lead looks pretty good at the mo if they can hold on...all over the argies at the moment! 

Hombres contra chicos.

Contepomi with another turnover. Argies can't win a line-out though so have no hope at all.

debsam - with the modern Rugby player altitude does NOT play the same part it did when it was an amateur game.  Today's athletes seem to  over come itb easily.

Good Lord, how one-sided is this international?

They're fecking awful

TRY time England

RM - I'm luvin this rout by England.  That 1.52 is now Massive

Argentina 0 - 25 England

burns and twelvetress making sweet music together at 10/12

altitude, wind against...... straws n clutching spring to mind. nite all, back Tuesday morning for lions

Is this really Ingerlund?

I laid a chunk of 1.14 so it's not so great for me, but I can afford a few blow-outs at those prices. Quite enjoying the ambition from the team in white though.

Got a bit of overs and it's looking like England have got that sorted on their own!

Ozy - it's a joy to watch.

I have already said how good I think Ben Morgan will become-starting to look the real deal

said it at the time but thankfully he chose England

One of those players, when he's good he is very good indeed. Sometimes he goes a bit quiet though.

What a superb watch. I realise that I may be somewhat biased but how much better is Freddie than Farrell? I'll be generous to Owen and just say ten or twenty times. Likewise, Twelvetrees and Morgan have been superb and I can't wait to see Kvesic in the cherry and white.

Big mention to Christian Wade whose all round game has been absolutely fantastic.

why did the ref blow that scrum up? no need

worth a few quid on argies now- just in case a quick score/ 2nd half wind adv

If you fancy the Argies to come back you should be looking at the low teens on the -16.5, IMHO.

Too late....

3-25 HT.

We knew there was some pace out there for England, but I didn't quite expect that. Could have been worse for the Argies really.

Am i right in saying May isnt on the bench?

No May. Eastmond and Foden on the bench.

Replacements: 16 David Paice, 17 Paul Doran Jones, 18 Henry Thomas, 19 Courtney Lawes, 20 Billy Vunipola, 21 Richard Wigglesworth, 22 Kyle Eastmond, 23 Ben Foden

Glossy we might have a team next year!!

Exciting isnt it! I'm hearing good things about young Hicks too. I think he may be a good un.

Surely they're not just going to keep taking 3s, are they?  Long way back if they're going to do that!

What a shocker. Pumas could be 12-25 down and in with a shout, but 1 from 4 means they are completely buggered bar a miracle.

Joseph could have scored on his own!

B36 should be with the Lions. Such a superb rugby brain.

Miles forward, no?

Now that must have been forwards. Shame.

I'm liking that referee, good view of the game and great interaction with the players

Referee has been superb throughout.

Getting to the point where there are far too many pens from England though.

like the way Wade and co have a look first rather than just hoofing away turnovers and possession

Surely someone's gotta go to the bin.

impressed with Kvesic on debut-looking increasingly good as game goes on

Sadly a lot of the good work now being undone.

looks like England happy with what they have dot Glossy

got

Good defensive performance from England, but a yellow card was overdue there.

Pretty amazed that overs is going down here!

For crying out loud, when are we going to address this ridiculous penalty count that we rack up?

Strettle does what he does best. Drops a pass.

Terrible second hald from England. Pretty much negated all the good work in the first half.

How many tries are they gonna blow? Terrible 2nd Half in attack

dont be so negative glossy!!

weather a consideration and subs didnt help

Pumas have done well to score 0 points this half given all the ball they've had.

WHY TMO????

Thank F**K!!!

lol tmo....

Damp second half. Job was already done though I suppose.

Get rid of strettle. Wouldnt get a look in if he played for an unfashionable club.