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Maltese_Joe
27 Feb 13 06:38
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Having spotted that Youwin were still offering Toulouse -14 points on handicap v Bayonne last Saturday, when some other bookmakers (PP and Ladbrokes) had moved the handicap a few points, I made a deposit of 110 pounds.  During the one minute it took for the money to get into my account Youwin changed their handicap to 16.  No problem I thought, I'll withdraw the money.

Not so simple, apparently Youwin have a rule hidden away which states that if you make a deposit and don't use the money for a bet they will take ten percent of the deposit as a 'levy'!!!

So they ended up returning 99 pounds!!

So I closed my account, won't make that mistake again.

:-)

Just had an email exchange with Youwin during which they stated 'Please note that once a market has been closed down for betting, it will still appear on the website for a period of time however it does not mean that you will be able to place bets on it.'

So they actually admit that they tempt punters to deposit funds and then tell them the bet is not available!

Then when they try to withdraw their money they charge them ten percent - a nice little earner Rodney!

:-)

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By:
Maltese_Joe
When: 27 Feb 13 06:39
The good news is that I had my bet with Tote and Toulouse won by around forty - why do bookmakers know about team selection issues before the punters do?  Because they are bookmakers I suppose.  :-)
By:
TheVis
When: 27 Feb 13 09:18
I've never used them and doubt I ever will.  Seem to have been involved in many disputes over the last couple of years. 

Having this clause tucked away in the ts&cs certainly does not seem fair:

3.6 Should you attempt to withdraw funds that were deposited but not used for wagering, the account may be closed. Winunited Limited may levy a processing fee of 10% upon withdrawals in these circumstances

Many times you end up depositing and not being able to be due either to price changes or annoying on plenty of site because you are unable to check in advance what the max bet is.

Avoid.
By:
RugbyMan
When: 27 Feb 13 13:50
The whole thing about not knowing what your maximum bet is before you place a bet is a ludicrous farce and applies to many bookmakers.

I can never remember off the top of my head which ones do and which don't, but I know it's one reason why I like Bluesquare more than others - I put a selection up, check the info bit and know that I am only allowed £55 on a 10/11 shot so don't invest any more. With the likes of Betfred I have to place a bet first to then find out I'm only allowed a pittance (the best one being where I chased it down and found that my maximum limit on a horse was actually lower than the minimum bet allowed on horse racing)

If they are directing it through to a trader then fine, but when it's just a pre-imposed limit there is no reason at all why it can't state that beforehand.
By:
northanlite
When: 27 Feb 13 15:23
yes they should make it clear like Ladcrooks do, at least you know where you stand with them.
min bet £0.00
max bet £0.00
Plain
By:
TheVis
When: 27 Feb 13 17:24
PP, Lads, BlueSq, 365, Sky, Pinnacle all let you know in advance how much you will get.
By:
Mucker84
When: 06 Mar 13 16:46
PP, BlueSQ, Pinnacle do for me. Ladbrokes if i click check bet I can see it. Where do 365 and sky display it? It defintely doesnt display on these two sites for me
By:
TheVis
When: 06 Mar 13 16:50
365 have a max button you can click on just underneath where you put the stake.  You can also ask for bigger than the max and they will give you at least what your max is and refer the rest automatically to a trader. It is an excellent system.  Of course, having a decent 365 account is rare and is something to be cherished if you are lucky enough to slip through the net.

On Sky you just keep typing in a stake eg 1111111 until it tells you underneath what the max bet is you can have on that bet.
By:
themuppet
When: 06 Mar 13 18:55
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By:
alfie46
When: 09 Mar 13 09:34
365 Max stake £ 2.72 allowed on treble @8.5 Laugh whats the point of being a bookmaket
By:
alfie46
When: 09 Mar 13 09:35
Bookmaker
By:
Mucker84
When: 09 Mar 13 20:10
Thanks vis. I don't know how I missed that 365 max stake button but I see it now. Didn't know that about Skybet
By:
TheVis
When: 10 Mar 13 08:01
You can also do similar to the sky thing with Fred - in this case ask for a stake bigger than the funds in your bank and it will come back telling you what the max you can have is.
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