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lustrumm
13 Dec 12 19:26
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Did my pricewise on this game Monday and put in Biarritz -6 and said I'd back them at that. Thought the result flattered Connaught the last day. When I saw bookmakers prices last night at -15 I nealry fell over. Do people not realise that Connaught are a good side now, not the whipping boys of old. Connaught +15 is one of the better bets of the year IMO and the only bet I fancy at this stage. If Munster go +6 I'll be in for that as well
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Report MCKENNA December 14, 2012 7:15 PM GMT
Pouring rain all day down in the South of France, puddles on the pitch, so looks like unders is the call in this one.  The +16 is also a good bet. Good luck lads, here we go!!
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 7:20 PM GMT
any idea if it is windy too? i was thinking the +16 looked too big but then i also have an image of yachvili kicking about half a dozen penalty goals their forwards grinding out a try and biarritz winning something like 25 - 06.
i think i might leave tonights games alone.
Report Rhino-2k8 December 14, 2012 7:31 PM GMT
Red Card @ 21.00
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 7:36 PM GMT
That really is a terrible mess of a pitch and it's still pouring down. Connacht should just hoof the thing at the Biarritz back-three all night and wait for the inevitable blunders.
Report MCKENNA December 14, 2012 7:38 PM GMT
Don't think its blowing too hard going on the weather sites, although being a seaside town, they always get wind down there.
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 7:39 PM GMT
well connacht certainly have the man for that job RM. He's no too good at much else but in poor weather he can be a match winner (to be fair he played very well last week & not just his kicking)
Report Steveirll December 14, 2012 7:40 PM GMT
GAME WONT FINISH, PITCH IS WATER LOGGED
Report TheVis December 14, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
Yachvilli will be lucky to get any footing for kicking any pens Laugh
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
is it really that bad???
Report TheVis December 14, 2012 7:44 PM GMT
They have the usual three lads with plank of wood broom desperately trying to get some of the water off the pitch but the main issue will be it is still raining
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
Shocking pitch but if it gets started then it would be ludicrous not to finish. I've played on worse than that before.
Report Steveirll December 14, 2012 7:48 PM GMT
crazy if they start this game
Report Steveirll December 14, 2012 7:49 PM GMT
are sweeping the rain off the pitch with yard brushes
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 7:49 PM GMT
Looks nearly as bad as that Bath 3-3 Toulouse game a few years back.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
Amazing the cap hasn't come in further. Biarritz are going to have to go some to beat a 15pt cap in this.
Report GPT December 14, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
Was that a hoover I sawLaugh
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
they will have to go some to score 15 in this
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 7:52 PM GMT
Comes to something when the game is on because "they've managed to push enough water off the pitch"
Report TheVis December 14, 2012 7:58 PM GMT
I think this is actually worse than the 3-3 pitch RM
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 7:58 PM GMT
Should be a government warning about backing teams at 1.15 in these conditions. Some people are nuts.


Time until first Balshaw clanger:

0-3 mins 7/4
3-8 mins 7/4
8-80 mins 7/4

Same for Brew, but Ngwenya's is like this:

0-26secs 7/4
27secs to 2m 7/4
After 2m - don't be daft.
Report suitangi December 14, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
lol, quality
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:00 PM GMT
Nah, not quite Vis. In patches it is for sure but the rec was actually bubbling with mud all across and was cut up pre-match (as the rec often is). Also I think the river runs off into the stadium in Bath, an innovative system that flies in the face of generally accepted wisdom.
Report stewardsenquirey December 14, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
Couldn't even get the ball to bounce for the kick off Laugh
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
Connacht will love this. Parks hoofs, some keen Irish lads chase after it and shout, then it's a scrummage.
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
can connacht beat last weeks penalty total? that's 1 already
Report TheVis December 14, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
Yes you're right RM the Rec was cut up pre which makes a difference. This one is more just about standing water.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
Was that actually a penalty?

Last week this bloke Hodges broke the record, previously held by Rolland, for making me scream at the TV. And I even won on the cap, which makes it even worse. I genuinely don't think he knows the laws.
Report TheVis December 14, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
We might get to 50 scrums here Laugh
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
we seeing the problem with back to back games here. it was getting nasty towards the end of last weeks game and it has carried on to the start of this one
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
Someone tell this prat to stop blowing his whistle unless something actually illegal happens.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
Now that is NO TRY

If they can rub off last week's Toulon try then this is never ever a try.
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
wow RM even you couldn't have imagined he would f**k up quite that badly

unbelievable Laugh!!!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
Incredibly then it's taken 11:44 for Ngwenya's first blunder and it's an impressive 5pt blunder at that.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:17 PM GMT
It's alright northanlite, Hodges has already nailed his colours to the home team's mast as someone else suggested he would. Plenty more chances to come.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:19 PM GMT
Despite that Ngwenya balls up it's Connacht making errors. Get the damn thing clear you madmen ffs,
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
"Use it"

Absolutely mad.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:22 PM GMT
Quinlan at it now, learn the frigging laws before commentating. Balshaw jumps into touch so it's Connacht ball, good decision touchie.

So that's first Balshaw blunder at 17:32
Report rev ike December 14, 2012 8:22 PM GMT
never thought i'd sit here moaning that an irish team arn't kicking enough!!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:24 PM GMT
How did 3 officials miss that hit on Parks???

This is a lottery.
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
this should be called off its ridiculous!
Report bigmickey December 14, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
24' 3-0 worst match ever
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
Touch judge and ref miss fight right in front of them. Incredible stuff.

Why are players passing the ball??? Get it, hoof it, chase like your life depends on it. Absurdly dumb from Connacht this half.
Report stewardsenquirey December 14, 2012 8:30 PM GMT
In a sick sort of way I don't mind watching these sort of games playing against the elements.For all the pressure Connacht have been under they are doing ok to be only 3 behind.
Could do with some Biarritz mistakes shortly.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
26:44 for the first Brew error.

Well done to Brew, his was a simple knock-on and took a lot longer than the other two.
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
how bad would a pitch have to be for them to call it off?
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
i'm with you stewards, i wouldn't want to watch it every week but it is entertaining in its own strange way
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
I agree with Connacht's defence. Been very good indeed, but their decisions with the ball have been awful. In that respect they are lucky it's only 3-0.

I enjoy these games as well. Reminds me of when I played, spending 5 minutes laying in a puddle with a fatso trying to drown me.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:36 PM GMT
Now it's 8-0 and I am less impressed by Connacht.

Parks wandering about in the middle of nowhere instead of making a tackle.
Report rev ike December 14, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
field position needed not up /unders
Report bigmickey December 14, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
cap Conn followers gone quiet!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
3-6 in Edinburgh. Sounds worse than this one.
Report rev ike December 14, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
parks not fancying it imo
Report stewardsenquirey December 14, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
Gonna be some tired legs 2nd half under that going.
Report tommo0001 December 14, 2012 8:41 PM GMT
this reminds me of wet monday mornings at secondary school with a football hating p.e teacher,who took great delight trying to instill moral fibre on his pupils i.e (he loved sending us out in freezing,raining conditions to play his beloved rugby)anyone caught shirking was made to go into the front row Scared
Report rev ike December 14, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
just dumb 1/2 from connort
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
Yachvilli and Harry the Donkey taking over here. Amazing how Biarritz couldn't pass the ball to save their lives last week, but in the pouring rain and mud they are throwing it about pretty well.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
Give your chasers a chance man!!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:49 PM GMT
As far as I can work out it's

Edinburgh 3-6 Metro

Unders backers having a good night.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 8:52 PM GMT
The highlights appear to be a succession of misses from the Ed kicker.
Report stewardsenquirey December 14, 2012 8:58 PM GMT
Not that I'll be backing it,but Biarritz look far better value at 1.06 with a 10pt lead than they did at 1.15 prematch.
Report stewardsenquirey December 14, 2012 8:59 PM GMT
That doesn't really make sense I know Grin
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
Think I get the gist!

If Connacht haul that idiot Dan Parks off and put on anybody with a brain and 2 legs they might have a chance. Abysmal performance by him, heaping pressure on his own team with bad kicking, bad tackling, bad decision-making.....
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:03 PM GMT
What is Connacht's gameplan????
Report TheVis December 14, 2012 9:05 PM GMT
This Ed kicker is a total waste of time RM.  He is up to 4 misses and most have ended nearer the corner flag than the post. It is doing my nut in as Racing aren't offering a lot
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
I think this cap is utterly done for. Swapped to Biarritz now as Connacht simply don't know what they are up to and the referee is one of the biggest guessers of all time. Biarritz power should be enough to get them at least 6 more points.
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
Great, as soon as I swap a Biarritz player does something stupid and goes to the bin. I give up Cry
Report rev ike December 14, 2012 9:17 PM GMT
this is dire...
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:21 PM GMT
they left the guy down for ages then and when the ball was as far away from the injury as possible the ref stops it!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
biaritz aint covering anything here
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
Trouble is that we could play until tomorrow afternoon and Connacht wouldn't score.
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
fk off ref..trying ya best to get conn back in this!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
it was never conn scrum that!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:35 PM GMT
Surely a yellow for Connacht then?

Nope, just makes it up as he goes along.
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
oh fk off ref!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
bail out again!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
how can you blow that quick and give it the other way cos of the water!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
early ref...fk off both early...how can it be both early dickhead!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
wanna see that 22 again..he didnt have a clue the prick
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
he nearly blew a pen for biarritz then
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
ref thinks time is up with 9mins left
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
defensive pen coming up now
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
wtf are they doing!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
Truly bemusing second half, just seems to revolve around Hodges jogging back and forth and making something up.

Bit annoyed I didn't take under 25.5 at half time, turned into a pretty average night for me.
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 9:55 PM GMT
a late sweat on for conn cap backers
Report unders101 December 14, 2012 9:56 PM GMT
fookin unreal Cry
Report northanlite December 14, 2012 9:57 PM GMT
jezuz some kick yash.
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 9:57 PM GMT
woooooooooooow..i am so ****g lucky!!..made a huge mistake then by leaving a bet up..biarittz cover with a miracle con in them conditions!
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
that kick was a like a 1/12 in them conditions!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
I got lucky there, but in all honesty Connacht didn't deserve anything at all. Utterly nothing from them in attack, a terrible gameplan and they were second best in handling, kicking, scrummaging and more. Gutsy as ever in defence, but that doesn't cut it at this level. I just can't work out what Elwood told them to do.

Still, even if they don't win another game (and they should with a home game against Zebre) they have still built on last season's Heineken cup performance. A team on the up, despite this (and Leinster thieving all their players).
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
ive never seen that ref before rm complete guesser whats his name?
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
That kick was incredible from Yachvilli. How do you nail 2 from wide out in conditions like this? Incredible skills, someone should show that Edinburgh lad the tape and gives him directions to the job centre.
Report Jibber Jabber December 14, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
Bout time I had a last minute swing go in my favour!!!  Nice kicking Yach!!
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 10:05 PM GMT
Leighton Hodges.

Got to feel for anyone who has to ref in those conditions, but he was comfortably the worst I saw last week when he took the Sale game. His ruck calls were absolute guesswork last week and I don't know how he has got to this level.

There's a welsh ref in the Premiership who I think has been excellent, but is he rewarded with Heineken cup games? nope.
Report DonNo1 December 14, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
Somebody put up 1.5 for him to make it but cancelled quickly, then I put a lay up on him at 1.35 to miss it, somebody jumps infront at 1.36 gets matched Mischief
Report RugbyMan December 14, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
On average 1.35 would probably be worth backing in those conditions, but there's something about Yachvilli. Bit like Nick Evans, somehow he always nails the tough ones.
Report Dr.Cypionate December 14, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
Ok cheers rm.
Report Ozymandius December 15, 2012 1:21 PM GMT
BOD quite good on da telly.
Report Monstrous Bryan December 15, 2012 1:24 PM GMT
Backed Treviso outright and Gori e/w 1st tryscorer (he was sharp as last week). Really looking forward to this, from a betting perspective
Report lustrumm December 15, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
My sincere apologies to anyone who followed me over the cliff here. That result certainly quietened me for the weekend. Going in the gate of the Aviva now a chastened person. On the Ospreys +6 but for only a fraction of what I lost last night. Apologies again
Report RugbyMan December 15, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
No need to apologise for having an opinion. You got absolutely stuffed in the last minute and can put that down to horrible luck (and Dan Parks, mostly Dan Parks). Connacht were hugely disappointing, but they were literally inches from still winning on the cap.
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