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in hell
23 May 12 19:38
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Strange decision

If you already play in the Premiership , you can share a ground . But cant share a ground , if you get promoted into it .

Closed shop
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Report STEPTOES YARD May 23, 2012 7:40 PM BST
seems a closed shop

what timing too, day of the game. kick in teeth for players
Report curious-cat May 23, 2012 7:45 PM BST
do they still share with L. Scottish ?
Report furrelli May 23, 2012 7:50 PM BST
might very well effect them for the game, it would most, then they loose & premeirship says Oh well if you'd won we would have let yer up....

Mind this should all be sorted long before the end of the season so teams & clubs can plan for the future, no good for anyone this. All teams premeirship & championship come upto scratch & then no argument.

And there yer go pirates a score up.
Report JaneWarner May 23, 2012 7:59 PM BST
Not unexpected.
Have to say I'm pleased, as they're the about the only Union club I ever watch in the flesh these days and I wouldn't watch them in the Premiership.
Groundsharing is rightly to be discouraged, in my view.
It obviously depends on the terms and conditions, but most clubs groundsharing, in any sport, tend to pay rent and get none of the matchday takings at the bar and catering outlets. There are also problems with fixture schedules.
Personally, I think cases should be analysed on an individual basis, as and when they arise. However, these days that type of arbitrary application of common sense is impractical, because some blighter will call Scheister Conmann Weasel & Co if they get turned down for promotion and there's no official "black & white" rule.
Groundsharing has got clubs into trouble in the past. The aforementioned London Scottish being an example, I think.
Report JaneWarner May 23, 2012 8:09 PM BST
FFS!!!!!!!!!
Oxford???!!!!????
I'd somewhat stupidly assumed they were going to apply with a groundshare at Brentford in place.
Oxford?
That's absolute lunacy.
It would take a hell of a lot of work to build an adequate fanbase out there, rugby-playing area or not.
Lovely ground and on the ring-road, but awful place to get to from the middle of the city. A swamp and the Blackbird Leys Estate on top of it.
Saw Sale beat Ponty there in the final of whatever the 2nd-tier European Competition was called that week (Parker Pen Shield?) 
As furrelli says, however, rulings on these things ought to be made well before the end of the season. That shouldn't be too hard.
Report thedodgepot May 24, 2012 1:41 PM BST
Would have been an ironic decision had Wasps finished bottom and not Newcastle.
Report JaneWarner May 24, 2012 8:22 PM BST
True, but a large number of Wasps fans traditionally live almost on the A40 and it's a short trip to Wycombe.
Richmond to Oxford is a schlep.
Report vickersa1 May 28, 2012 10:04 AM BST
LW can still appeal the decision, which is likley to make the RFU squirm a bit, as existing Prem clubs do not meet "primacy of tenure" anymore than LW would at Oxford.

Apparently Brentford does not meet RFU Premiership criteria, which is why they could not suggest that option. Quins wanted £250k just to open negotiations!

RU Premiership in danger of becoming as farcical as SuperLeague, with no promotion or relegation - franchise sport. In fact its not even a sport, merely a business when there's no effective promotion route.
Report JOCI Club May 31, 2012 8:11 PM BST
This is complete b0llocks and makes a mockery of the sport. So obviously other factors at work here that suggests they just don't want them in the Premiership. I'd love it if the Welsh gave all those Nigels in charge an ultimatum that said let us in to claim our rightful place or we will cease to exist as a club!

Some of these people in charge have been sitting around guzzling brandy and sniffing their own farts for too long.
Report Cymro May 31, 2012 8:53 PM BST
LW will appeal according to the news tonight.

The Prem may have picked on the wrong person to have a spat with here. LW Chairman Bleddyn Phillips is a partner with mega-bucks City law firm Clifford Chance; reportedly not known for blinking early, if at all.
Report Cymro May 31, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Just off on a tangent, if you think this one is bad.

When Chester FC were kicked out of their own ground some years ago for not paying the rent or something, they went to ground-share with Macclesfield on the other side of Cheshire. All with the blessing of the Football League.

Chester were in what is now League 2. Macc were in the Conference.

Macc then won the Conference- yep you guessed it: denied promition to the Football League as their ground wasn't up to Football League standard.....
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