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Rugby
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England 8/13
Ireland 6/4
Both teams playing well , Ireland without O'Connell, Murray and O'Brien.
England on the up and boosted by an excellent victory in France.
St Patricks day against the Auld enemy
Will be a very interesting game tactically ! Roll on St. Patricks Day !!!
England 8/13
Ireland 6/4
Both teams playing well , Ireland without O'Connell, Murray and O'Brien.
England on the up and boosted by an excellent victory in France.
St Patricks day against the Auld enemy
Will be a very interesting game tactically ! Roll on St. Patricks Day !!!
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Bowe first try scorer for me ......
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If France beat Wales, England could win the tournament if they overturn a 38 point deficit to Wales on the outright table (assuming I understand correctly). Wouldn't it be wise to await the outcome of that match before taking a view on this one?
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Ireland have scored a massive 112 points in the 6 nations so far
England have scored 68 points so far Factor in home advantage - there wont the much in it , a couple of pints either way I'd say  |
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The difference in points difference can be easily accounted for - it's the difference between playing Italy away in Arctic conditions versus playing them at home. Points difference would have been the other way around at this point last season following England's home blow out and Ireland's late away win both against Italy.
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Ireland have scored a massive 112 points in the 6 nations so far
England have scored 68 points so far Ireland have played Scotland and Italy @ home. England have only played the champions elect at home. On current form you would expect a comfortable win for England but Ireland do seems to manage their one good game of the 6N v England. |
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VicMarks • March 12, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
On current form you would expect a comfortable win for England. I think you've got that wrong way around.  |
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15 -Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14 - Tommy Bowe (Ospreys) 13 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 12 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 11 - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster) 10 - Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 9 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster) 1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 2 - Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) (capt) 3 - Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster) 4 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 5 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster) 6 - Stephen Ferris (Dungannon/Ulster) 7 - Sean O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster) 8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster) Replacements: 16- Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 17 - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster) 18 - Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/Connacht) 19 - Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 20 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/Munster) 21 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster) 22 - Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster) |
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You couldn't pick your own nose let a lone a winner pacrifc
nailed on England victory now. |
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Hard to believe that any Pro Punter would back England at 8/11 to beat Ireland.
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The pros are on at over evens and have already traded out to free up funds to lose at Chelts
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For some people it's hard to believe that England could have won any of their games, and yet.....
Fine margins should decide this one, so it might be time for me to dust off the 1-10 winning margins. I don't see this England team being as susceptible to any hint of running rugby by the opposition, so shouldn't get into a mess straight away. Shame for England that the Irish have kept Ross and Healey fit all comp though as they are much harder to attack with their two best props holding up the scrum. |
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Hopefully Ireland up the intensity and pace for this one. Then the game should get interesting
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Tuilagi vs Earls is my main concern
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England are now picking players, and prob more importantly, dropping others that some of us have been banging on about for ages
-look at the difference when England had to sub the half backs in the Welsh game -Easter wouldnt have set up Fodens try would he?, and Morgan gradually looks to be finding his feet at this level and imo is a right player -the second rows have grunt -Cole to me is having an excellent tourney although barely mentioned in the media -ditto Barritt -Farrell is superb for a 20year old in a key position ( and what a tackle) -the back row remains an area of concern (balance wise) but is solid icbd agree about Tuilagi he is a handful for anyone let alone Earls/Darcy-who didnt look comfortable with the big Welsh backs running at him either could have a long afternoon I think it is going to be a good game, with not much between both teams, personally from a betting perspective I feel home advantage gives England a slight edge but it is only slight, and imo not as much as the betting suggests |
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^ Earls didn't play against Wales. But Tuilagi has a good fend, Earls will need to chop him low and the Irish defence needs to quick off the mark like against the French.
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yes i know, meant Darcy only as regards Welsh backs
some people esp on here still not prepared to give any credit to England despite 3 away wins and a good showing against Wales |
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Darcy was shambolic in defence against Wales, has improved lately.
I've no problem giving them credit as 3 away wins is impressive. |
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those on 'ere not giving ingerland credit come from over the severn as i recollect to date.
on the game i've already selected my "big un" - no brainer really  |
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Ireland have won seven of the previous eight meetings in the Six Nations, would any other country than England be favourites for this match ?
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yes but in those 7 wins important players like POC and BOD were playing
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No wonder you can't tip a winner with thinking like that pacrifc
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BOD not playing is huge, guess which game in the last 8 years he didnt play in?
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It's a bigger task without those 2 players involved Sewter but others have to step up and share on the leadership side, I thought Best done very well last weekend.
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I don't know what all the fuss is about. England aren't even being rated the best team here.
Also over the last few years some very good Irish sides have beaten some very average English ones. Things might just be a bit different this year, but at 6/4 Ireland are being given a lot of respect. |
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If anything the odds suggest that Ireland are a slightly better team. Hard one to judge really, history is on Ireland's side, but history is based on a different English and different Irish side. No O'Connell or O'Driscoll this time, whereas England have some actual threats in midfield, which has to tip things their way.
In theory Ireland's back-row should be better, but England's back-row has achieved more than was expected and their lack of a genuine openside is no different to Ireland's in that respect. Certainly any advantage Ireland have there is wiped out in the centres where D'Arcy and Earls have big worries facing Tuilagi. As for the back-threes, Ireland have a more effective attacking unit but some of their defending and positioning has been very suspect. Chris Ashton could be a real weak link for England though as he appears to have fallen in love with his own legend. I see very little in this on paper, but home advantage is always tough to overcome. A 3pt lead for England going into the last 5 minutes will do me...... |
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And ROG comes on to drop a goal from 40 yards out!
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GPT - reported for racist comments
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I dont think that theres much between them, i firmly believe that Ireland have been flattered in their wins against two very poor teams, Italy without a kicker of any sorts and scotland who were just shi te, they threw away a win that was handed to them on a first half plate.
8/11 might be a bit skinny, but i think that home advantage will see them home. |
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Ireland massively over rated here again the sum total of their 6Ns so far is beating Scotland and Italy,so what.
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Zzzzzzzzzz
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The truth is tiring isn't it
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England is on a new song, and Ireland have only beat the wooden spoon choir...England easy win..
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englanistan will be p!ssing in the wind against ireland today. englanistan wont be so lucky today
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Ireland +14.5 are 1.23, seems rather generous to me!
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Don't know what to make of this. Have enjoyed Eng this year and hope for a fine game to end the season. Outside of a few mug try scorer bets I think I will mostly just watch this and hope we are in with a shout of levels going into last 10
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This does have the feel of a higher scoring game, although it barely has to go any to beat the two games so far in that respect.
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this band is horrendous..too slow !
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need to do a Synchronized here
Ireland look up for it |
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this bird would be better off witout the tool with the drum
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