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Lady Margaret
07 Feb 12 10:59
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Anyone else think England were poor at Murrayfield and looking forward to a decent punt on the Italians on Saturday?
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Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:22 PM GMT
youngs sounds like a right prima dona

never mind moaning son - show us on the pitch what you can do or feck off and accept you are not up to this level
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
match is still in the balance, one team needs to take control
Report Injera February 11, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
Often it's the maths that does for the draw.
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
Youngs' stock has plummeted this last year, while Dickson continues to gradually improve his standing.

Ben Morgan going well. That's promising.
Report bigmickey February 11, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
59' 15-16
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
Aye, 1pt gaps seem to be a certainty in big games these days Injera. Very frustrating.
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
defo change of pace to the ingerland on the subs, taken the crowd outta the game for sure
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
wtf was that for?
Report sewter lives again February 11, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
give it a rest doc and your BP will go down
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
lol strettle was out then
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
holding on
Report bigmickey February 11, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
worst match ever
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
I should have listened to you Vis.Stuck with some nasty Red on England currently(Never layed off with Italy even at 1.74)
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
italy done
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
I've made a similar balls-up stewards.

Two weeks on the trot that a Hodgson chage down has done me up completely.
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
There are worse matches than this every month on TV.  It hasn't been all that bad in the conditions
Report Injera February 11, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
RM - if ever it was sensible to keep the draw inplay it was this game: the weather, the average teams..

Greened up for peanuts at 22s. Still got a chance I guess..
Report bigmickey February 11, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
66' 15-19
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
Can't help feeling Italy's missed pens to touch have been a very significant factor today as well
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
Eng look short as hell for a one score game even with that pen missing
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
pmsl
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
I thought the same last week Injera. The Hodgson charge-down was the beginning of the end in that one as well! (although the Scotland "try" and Rennie no-pass sent me loopy).
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
italy trying now they are losing..shame they couldnt play with intensity when 9 up
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
4 point gap is useful enough for the biggie too
Report Injera February 11, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
Clutching at straws Vis!

Yes RM - infuriating stuff. I was booking my holiday after the first 20 mins of this match!
Report in hell February 11, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
Thats a load of nonsense


Its Rugby FFS
Report ballaman68 February 11, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
now thats a soft pen !
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
Your exactly the same as me RM(I feel your pain)
Italy had a pen when they hit 1.74 and I thought it's now a 2 point score game.
Report in hell February 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


SHOCKING
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
story of italys game..should be leading now
Report Mr. Purple February 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
bring back Burton!!!
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:40 PM GMT
jaysus Italy have no 10 and no kicker.

Could easily still be winning this game
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
catch yer maul? Cry
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
"miss burton" Laugh
Report Asparagus Man February 11, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
At least we understand why they play Burton know
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
Doesn't take much to get a pen in this game.

Unfortunately Italy apparently dont want to win CryCry
Report Asparagus Man February 11, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
*now
Report in hell February 11, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
Those slagging Burton off , now not so happy with him going off
Report bigmickey February 11, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
75' 15-19
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
yeah cos burton was better..
Report Injera February 11, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
If you can't kick, you can't win.
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 5:42 PM GMT
clown. he puts the ball on the tee the same way as bergamasco - how he expects to kick it is a mystery
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
Italy have blown their best ever chance of beating England
Report Jobroke February 11, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
Has there been a slower England midfield?
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:45 PM GMT
scrum pen now please ref just to setup a 7 pointer Laugh
Report sewter lives again February 11, 2012 5:45 PM GMT
parisse wins mom when he shouldnt

loads of times he should have won it and didnt

Farrell mom imo
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:45 PM GMT
Parisse man of the match again......

The only thing that can stop him getting the award is Andy Nicol Laugh
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 5:45 PM GMT
They'll be plenty more Viz when they get a 10 Wink
Report bardo February 11, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
England are rubbish but lucky  for them they faced the two weakest teams in the first few weeks and have 6 points on the board.

expect Wales to brutally expose them for the mediocre side they are
Report ballaman68 February 11, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
This practise of bringing on players with 3 mins to go is stupid , why bother taking off a player at this stage its only asking for trouble imo
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
why kick it away ? lucky to get the scrum
Report Jobroke February 11, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
England still trying hard to lose.
Report ballaman68 February 11, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
why would you fecking kick the ball away !!!!!!!!!!!  aaaaaargghhhh !!!!
Report in hell February 11, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
Foden . again making a **** up

Been useless
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
Eng are still bigger in the outright with two away wins than they were before the tournie started.  Any backers must be seething LaughLaugh
Report sewter lives again February 11, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
italy attack thru their best player...Foden
Report MoneyBagger February 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
Italians lucky there...box kick with 1 min  to go wasn't the smartest play
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
What minute does the knock on come Cry
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
must be odds on Italy kick this last ball away
Report bigmickey February 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
Full Time  Italy 15 - England 19
Report Dr.Cypionate February 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
italy beat themselves
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
About now Cry
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
"full credit to England"

Cyclops dallaglio making the baptist sound positively neutral Laugh
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
Oppertunity missed for Italy there, bottled it
Report Agent G February 11, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
2.28 laid on italy under 15.5 for a couple of hundred with about a minute left.  someone's bot is in the bad books.
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:53 PM GMT
2 games, 2 wins, and England remain the only team in this competition that Italy have never beaten.

Some people are just bitter Wink
Report curious-cat February 11, 2012 5:53 PM GMT
England top of the table.

Wales had better look out for Charlie's chargedowns. Devil
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
Nah, it's alright, Lee Byrne has been dropped. Otherwise Charlie would be on for a hat trick.
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 5:55 PM GMT
For a mid table Premiership selection they're doing ok Wink
Report Agent G February 11, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
"two brilliant performances ....."

I'll have a pint of whatever Jeremy's having please
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 5:59 PM GMT
wins against adversity will be good for this bunch of kids, beaten 2 very exp sides so far, credit where it's due, wd for holding out.
Report sewter lives again February 11, 2012 6:00 PM GMT
RM any excuse for the England haters

Lancaster gradually working out best team, good subs

Youngs needs to get fit, or is he carrying an injury?

Dowson very disappointing and will surely make way for Wood but Morgan is very good imo and has impressed

unusual for Foden to have a sh*tter but best to have them when your team wins
Report JOCI Club February 11, 2012 6:00 PM GMT
England shamble to another drab victory - it's possible this could be the drabbest team ever to win a Grand Slam?
Report pacficrc February 11, 2012 6:02 PM GMT
Should have kicked for corner for one of the penalties to drive a lineout. Parrise was spent after 60 mins and happy to leave one of halfbacks kick for goal, if only they could
Report GPT February 11, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
Pretty average from England again Wales licking their lips,Youngs has lost it.
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 6:09 PM GMT
Newsflash

Welsh Cyclops already beat the Scots & only need ingerland for the triple crown......
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
Dowson's call up came a good 2 years too late and I'm not convinced he is really an 8 anyway. Looks like Morgan is going to be the 1st choice 8 by the end of the comp by default, but fitting Wood in is going to be difficult.

Youngs has gone to crap after 1 injury, a bit like Cipriani (although that was an horrendous one). Dickson has to replace him now and Care should find his way back in sooner or later.

The 8,9,10 axis definitely the biggest let down, albeit in bad conditions so far. Not a lot wrong from the rest, bar a rare poor performance from Foden, and the defending has been impressive.
Report curious-cat February 11, 2012 6:13 PM GMT
the way Italy play they could easily spring a surprise in the matches to come ...

half decent pack ... backs who look for the interception and are keen to counter-attack.
Report JOCI Club February 11, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
I suppose in England's defence, they have won two games away from home.
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 6:18 PM GMT
Exactly. Amazing how England are the only team that can play so badly when they win. Everybody else has great victories when they win away from home in the snow....
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 6:24 PM GMT
The second coming are going to be about 1/2 shots up at HQ next round then.
Report ballaman68 February 11, 2012 6:25 PM GMT
Poor game really, Italy threw it away with that charge down try and the stupid pen.

however as was said above england have won ugly in their two games so far, its a good habit to get into --winning and in fairness to them they never let their heads down and kept plugging away.
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
Barring 2 charge downs against England in the last 2 games I would have been so much better off(And if someone had told me before the start of the 6 nations that it would be Charlie that would cost me I would have laughed in there face Cry)
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
If the game is even on, I cant even find a chase bet on France V Ireland(just as well with my luck I suppose)
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
Aye before having them sectioned Laugh
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
i got on the 3rd man SE at 36.0 & with conditions being as they are quite happy to see it ride into late teens 20mins in for a play
Report RugbyMan February 11, 2012 6:32 PM GMT
The skills on show, especially around the half-back area are still questionable, but England haven't played on a sensible pitch yet (although that may have helped them). The character of the players in defence has been excellent and has won them 2 games.

Probably going to take a fair bit more than just character from now on, but I also think we over-rate the performances of some teams in games that look good. Good attacking often goes hand in hand with poor defending.
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 6:33 PM GMT
Could be a good call Furrelli(you don't want me going on it with my luck other wise it has no chance Laugh)
Say the game was cancelled tonight then when would they replay it ?
Lunch time tomorrow maybe ? (Cant see how they can do it otherwise)
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
RTE are saying definitely game on.  Covers are off the pitch and it is now -6
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 6:36 PM GMT
Would a stud go in at -6 ?
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 6:36 PM GMT
Ar don't jinx it fellah, as for A-A game, guess depends if they ko or not, if no then would need to be around 13:00 or 17:00 GMT tomorrow so dont clash with Wales/Scots, if they've already played xx mins then ?? who knows
Report stewardsenquirey February 11, 2012 6:36 PM GMT
On a pitch with no under soil heating ? (Fook playing on that pitch)
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 6:38 PM GMT
pitch has had driers/covers on it for a few days & they say pitch was at 3 deg & is ok for top 4" or so
Report TheVis February 11, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
that could soon change in -6 though and that is the warmest temp forecast

time to dig out a few rules and regs I reckon just in case Laugh
Report furrelli February 11, 2012 6:49 PM GMT
3 day rule i tink if yer worried about funds being tied up if p-p before ko, if during then...... Confused
Report worcesterwilly February 12, 2012 10:31 AM GMT
All I see from England is the usual functional one dimensional boring Rugby...

You can blame the pitches but had they not have had two fortuitous knock down's by Hodgson then they would be looking at 2 awful defeats against the 2 worst sides in the 5N

Unless they can play the remaining games in wind and rain I can see Wales,France and Ireland ripping them apart...

Is the sum total of English ambition now to finish 3rd or 4th in the 5N by default...

Absolutely NO sign of genuine penetration from the backs, precious little ball carrying ability just phase after phase after phase going NO-WHERE....

MEMO to Lancaster....watch the last 2 minutes of last weeks Ireland v Wales game....13 phases - simple but effective ball carrying to make ground DOWN THE PITCH....not across it!
Report GPT February 12, 2012 10:40 AM GMT
True,ok so they have won both games but to me they look worse than in the WC.Foden,flat rack bully Aston and Youngs are MIA.
Report Manhatsa February 12, 2012 1:14 PM GMT
Lost a wee bit on the outright but had a good touch on the H/C.  Laying this English team made up of clueless clowns from the 3rd division of European rugby and managed by guy even worse than Johnson (if that were possible)is childs play.

A BIG thank you to the English Rugby Football Union. 

France, Ireland and Wales to come - lovely.  Keep the good times rolling.
Report sewter lives again February 12, 2012 1:15 PM GMT
nice fishing boys
Report yummy February 12, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
yummy     07 Feb 12 12:10 
The Italians kept possession well on Saturday and were surprisingly disciplined. Never looked like scoring a try despite racking up multi phases on numerous occasions. Can't see them scoring more than 15 pts

England were very good defensibly on Saturday but showed precious little in attack. Will find it difficult to dominate the  possession stakes and like Italy will struggle to score too many tries.

My Play

A low scoring encounter 28-34 points in total with Italy beating the handicap +16 comfortably and also a little bit of 7/2 on offer to win the game


Sorry guys have too blow my own trumpet here
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