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Anyone else think England were poor at Murrayfield and looking forward to a decent punt on the Italians on Saturday?
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youngs sounds like a right prima dona
never mind moaning son - show us on the pitch what you can do or feck off and accept you are not up to this level
never mind moaning son - show us on the pitch what you can do or feck off and accept you are not up to this level
match is still in the balance, one team needs to take control
Youngs' stock has plummeted this last year, while Dickson continues to gradually improve his standing.
Ben Morgan going well. That's promising.
Ben Morgan going well. That's promising.
Aye, 1pt gaps seem to be a certainty in big games these days Injera. Very frustrating.
defo change of pace to the ingerland on the subs, taken the crowd outta the game for sure
give it a rest doc and your BP will go down
I should have listened to you Vis.Stuck with some nasty Red on England currently(Never layed off with Italy even at 1.74)
I've made a similar balls-up stewards.
Two weeks on the trot that a Hodgson chage down has done me up completely.
Two weeks on the trot that a Hodgson chage down has done me up completely.
There are worse matches than this every month on TV. It hasn't been all that bad in the conditions
RM - if ever it was sensible to keep the draw inplay it was this game: the weather, the average teams..
Greened up for peanuts at 22s. Still got a chance I guess..
Greened up for peanuts at 22s. Still got a chance I guess..
Can't help feeling Italy's missed pens to touch have been a very significant factor today as well
Eng look short as hell for a one score game even with that pen missing
I thought the same last week Injera. The Hodgson charge-down was the beginning of the end in that one as well! (although the Scotland "try" and Rennie no-pass sent me loopy).
italy trying now they are losing..shame they couldnt play with intensity when 9 up
Clutching at straws Vis!
Yes RM - infuriating stuff. I was booking my holiday after the first 20 mins of this match!
Yes RM - infuriating stuff. I was booking my holiday after the first 20 mins of this match!
Your exactly the same as me RM(I feel your pain)
Italy had a pen when they hit 1.74 and I thought it's now a 2 point score game.
Italy had a pen when they hit 1.74 and I thought it's now a 2 point score game.
jaysus Italy have no 10 and no kicker.
Could easily still be winning this game
Could easily still be winning this game
At least we understand why they play Burton know
Doesn't take much to get a pen in this game.
Unfortunately Italy apparently dont want to win
Unfortunately Italy apparently dont want to win
Those slagging Burton off , now not so happy with him going off
clown. he puts the ball on the tee the same way as bergamasco - how he expects to kick it is a mystery
Italy have blown their best ever chance of beating England
parisse wins mom when he shouldnt
loads of times he should have won it and didnt
Farrell mom imo
loads of times he should have won it and didnt
Farrell mom imo
Parisse man of the match again......
The only thing that can stop him getting the award is Andy Nicol
The only thing that can stop him getting the award is Andy Nicol
England are rubbish but lucky for them they faced the two weakest teams in the first few weeks and have 6 points on the board.
expect Wales to brutally expose them for the mediocre side they are
expect Wales to brutally expose them for the mediocre side they are
This practise of bringing on players with 3 mins to go is stupid , why bother taking off a player at this stage its only asking for trouble imo
why would you fecking kick the ball away !!!!!!!!!!! aaaaaargghhhh !!!!
Eng are still bigger in the outright with two away wins than they were before the tournie started. Any backers must be seething
italy attack thru their best player...Foden
Italians lucky there...box kick with 1 min to go wasn't the smartest play
"full credit to England"
Cyclops dallaglio making the baptist sound positively neutral
Cyclops dallaglio making the baptist sound positively neutral
2.28 laid on italy under 15.5 for a couple of hundred with about a minute left. someone's bot is in the bad books.
2 games, 2 wins, and England remain the only team in this competition that Italy have never beaten.
Some people are just bitter
Some people are just bitter
England top of the table.
Wales had better look out for Charlie's chargedowns.
Wales had better look out for Charlie's chargedowns.
Nah, it's alright, Lee Byrne has been dropped. Otherwise Charlie would be on for a hat trick.
For a mid table Premiership selection they're doing ok
"two brilliant performances ....."
I'll have a pint of whatever Jeremy's having please
I'll have a pint of whatever Jeremy's having please
wins against adversity will be good for this bunch of kids, beaten 2 very exp sides so far, credit where it's due, wd for holding out.
RM any excuse for the England haters
Lancaster gradually working out best team, good subs
Youngs needs to get fit, or is he carrying an injury?
Dowson very disappointing and will surely make way for Wood but Morgan is very good imo and has impressed
unusual for Foden to have a sh*tter but best to have them when your team wins
Lancaster gradually working out best team, good subs
Youngs needs to get fit, or is he carrying an injury?
Dowson very disappointing and will surely make way for Wood but Morgan is very good imo and has impressed
unusual for Foden to have a sh*tter but best to have them when your team wins
England shamble to another drab victory - it's possible this could be the drabbest team ever to win a Grand Slam?
Should have kicked for corner for one of the penalties to drive a lineout. Parrise was spent after 60 mins and happy to leave one of halfbacks kick for goal, if only they could
Pretty average from England again Wales licking their lips,Youngs has lost it.
Newsflash
Welsh Cyclops already beat the Scots & only need ingerland for the triple crown......
Welsh Cyclops already beat the Scots & only need ingerland for the triple crown......
Dowson's call up came a good 2 years too late and I'm not convinced he is really an 8 anyway. Looks like Morgan is going to be the 1st choice 8 by the end of the comp by default, but fitting Wood in is going to be difficult.
Youngs has gone to crap after 1 injury, a bit like Cipriani (although that was an horrendous one). Dickson has to replace him now and Care should find his way back in sooner or later.
The 8,9,10 axis definitely the biggest let down, albeit in bad conditions so far. Not a lot wrong from the rest, bar a rare poor performance from Foden, and the defending has been impressive.
Youngs has gone to crap after 1 injury, a bit like Cipriani (although that was an horrendous one). Dickson has to replace him now and Care should find his way back in sooner or later.
The 8,9,10 axis definitely the biggest let down, albeit in bad conditions so far. Not a lot wrong from the rest, bar a rare poor performance from Foden, and the defending has been impressive.
the way Italy play they could easily spring a surprise in the matches to come ...
half decent pack ... backs who look for the interception and are keen to counter-attack.
half decent pack ... backs who look for the interception and are keen to counter-attack.
I suppose in England's defence, they have won two games away from home.
Exactly. Amazing how England are the only team that can play so badly when they win. Everybody else has great victories when they win away from home in the snow....
The second coming are going to be about 1/2 shots up at HQ next round then.
Poor game really, Italy threw it away with that charge down try and the stupid pen.
however as was said above england have won ugly in their two games so far, its a good habit to get into --winning and in fairness to them they never let their heads down and kept plugging away.
however as was said above england have won ugly in their two games so far, its a good habit to get into --winning and in fairness to them they never let their heads down and kept plugging away.
Barring 2 charge downs against England in the last 2 games I would have been so much better off(And if someone had told me before the start of the 6 nations that it would be Charlie that would cost me I would have laughed in there face )
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If the game is even on, I cant even find a chase bet on France V Ireland(just as well with my luck I suppose)
i got on the 3rd man SE at 36.0 & with conditions being as they are quite happy to see it ride into late teens 20mins in for a play
The skills on show, especially around the half-back area are still questionable, but England haven't played on a sensible pitch yet (although that may have helped them). The character of the players in defence has been excellent and has won them 2 games.
Probably going to take a fair bit more than just character from now on, but I also think we over-rate the performances of some teams in games that look good. Good attacking often goes hand in hand with poor defending.
Probably going to take a fair bit more than just character from now on, but I also think we over-rate the performances of some teams in games that look good. Good attacking often goes hand in hand with poor defending.
Could be a good call Furrelli(you don't want me going on it with my luck other wise it has no chance )
Say the game was cancelled tonight then when would they replay it ?
Lunch time tomorrow maybe ? (Cant see how they can do it otherwise)
)Say the game was cancelled tonight then when would they replay it ?
Lunch time tomorrow maybe ? (Cant see how they can do it otherwise)
RTE are saying definitely game on. Covers are off the pitch and it is now -6
Ar don't jinx it fellah, as for A-A game, guess depends if they ko or not, if no then would need to be around 13:00 or 17:00 GMT tomorrow so dont clash with Wales/Scots, if they've already played xx mins then ?? who knows
On a pitch with no under soil heating ? (Fook playing on that pitch)
pitch has had driers/covers on it for a few days & they say pitch was at 3 deg & is ok for top 4" or so
that could soon change in -6 though and that is the warmest temp forecast
time to dig out a few rules and regs I reckon just in case
time to dig out a few rules and regs I reckon just in case
3 day rule i tink if yer worried about funds being tied up if p-p before ko, if during then...... 
All I see from England is the usual functional one dimensional boring Rugby...
You can blame the pitches but had they not have had two fortuitous knock down's by Hodgson then they would be looking at 2 awful defeats against the 2 worst sides in the 5N
Unless they can play the remaining games in wind and rain I can see Wales,France and Ireland ripping them apart...
Is the sum total of English ambition now to finish 3rd or 4th in the 5N by default...
Absolutely NO sign of genuine penetration from the backs, precious little ball carrying ability just phase after phase after phase going NO-WHERE....
MEMO to Lancaster....watch the last 2 minutes of last weeks Ireland v Wales game....13 phases - simple but effective ball carrying to make ground DOWN THE PITCH....not across it!
You can blame the pitches but had they not have had two fortuitous knock down's by Hodgson then they would be looking at 2 awful defeats against the 2 worst sides in the 5N
Unless they can play the remaining games in wind and rain I can see Wales,France and Ireland ripping them apart...
Is the sum total of English ambition now to finish 3rd or 4th in the 5N by default...
Absolutely NO sign of genuine penetration from the backs, precious little ball carrying ability just phase after phase after phase going NO-WHERE....
MEMO to Lancaster....watch the last 2 minutes of last weeks Ireland v Wales game....13 phases - simple but effective ball carrying to make ground DOWN THE PITCH....not across it!
True,ok so they have won both games but to me they look worse than in the WC.Foden,flat rack bully Aston and Youngs are MIA.
Lost a wee bit on the outright but had a good touch on the H/C. Laying this English team made up of clueless clowns from the 3rd division of European rugby and managed by guy even worse than Johnson (if that were possible)is childs play.
A BIG thank you to the English Rugby Football Union.
France, Ireland and Wales to come - lovely. Keep the good times rolling.
A BIG thank you to the English Rugby Football Union.
France, Ireland and Wales to come - lovely. Keep the good times rolling.
yummy 07 Feb 12 12:10
The Italians kept possession well on Saturday and were surprisingly disciplined. Never looked like scoring a try despite racking up multi phases on numerous occasions. Can't see them scoring more than 15 pts
England were very good defensibly on Saturday but showed precious little in attack. Will find it difficult to dominate the possession stakes and like Italy will struggle to score too many tries.
My Play
A low scoring encounter 28-34 points in total with Italy beating the handicap +16 comfortably and also a little bit of 7/2 on offer to win the game
Sorry guys have too blow my own trumpet here
The Italians kept possession well on Saturday and were surprisingly disciplined. Never looked like scoring a try despite racking up multi phases on numerous occasions. Can't see them scoring more than 15 pts
England were very good defensibly on Saturday but showed precious little in attack. Will find it difficult to dominate the possession stakes and like Italy will struggle to score too many tries.
My Play
A low scoring encounter 28-34 points in total with Italy beating the handicap +16 comfortably and also a little bit of 7/2 on offer to win the game
Sorry guys have too blow my own trumpet here
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