Trump fumes over Nobel peace prize snub and criticizes Norway (2026)

He's 101% barking.

Unfair to dogs.

TDS

Seek help. See a doctor.

Get out in the fresh air.

Find some friends

Trump had a hissy fit over not getting the Nobel peace prize, they want to televise live executions,hung Ukraine out to dry with helping Russia.
That was just yesterday.

Maybe Benny you got it wrong who needs help,you have a very bad dose.

Everything he does is just to move share prices .

Get the popcorn in ready for midterms.

If this is reaction to not winning peace prize despite starting unresolved war.

Hung Ukraine out to dry lapsy? Have you considered going over there to help on the front line?

No,i won't expect you to go to the Straits and help Trumpy out either Ron even though he could do with it.

I am just a commentator.

I’m not sure Trump is off his head because he is making good money, it’s idiots who support him, unless they are getting few quid, are raving lunatics.

Iran is a defensive war, there's no choice, whereas funding Ukraine is a choice. Isn't it the case Lapsy that they have sacrificed more young men into the meat grinder as a result of being funded by America and Europe in a war they can't possibly win against Russia? And if that's not the case how is Ukraine going to win? Sooner or later they will run out of men and be forced to concede and all those lives lost will be for nothing, so the least you could do is go over and help if you really feel it's the right thing to do.

Not the case at all, Putin and his 'special military operations' were an invasion,the choice was either surrender and be Russian or fight which they did and very bravely against a much bigger enemy who have lost almost a half a million men.
Europe is/has tried to help with defence and refugees,Joe Biden helped,Trump is a dead loss altogether or even a snake in the grass,he has turned his back on Europe and is a liability even to his own people.

magaloons are crazy pdfile worshipers, there's no point in engaging with them

If you were genuinely concerned about pdfiles why is this guy Escapee your hero? You always run away from explaining it. Or why he never did anything about Epstein whereas Trump has. Trump signed the Epstein files transparency act and Epstein and Maxwell were both imprisoned during his terms not during Biden's or Obama's terms. Does making all these dishonest bad faith arguments that everyone can see are dishonest help you in some way? I would really like to understand how it helps you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41oABbxzvDA&t=2s
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see what I mean, totally crazy and compulsive liars.

Are you unable to answer my question lapsy? If you believe it's possible for Ukraine to win against Russia please explain how. I don't believe it's possible so therefore all the lives of their soldiers were wasted on a futile war they could never win.

Russia can't win in Ukraine, if they could win they'd have done it in the last 4 years.

I answered,maybe it was an answer you didn't want to hear (1.52pm) in that Ukraine are fighting for sovereignty as the other choice is a part of Russia.
Now your lad Trump has gone against sanctions of Russian oil,the UK and other countries have vowed to keep sanctions going. Is it really Trump who is prolonging the war and causing loss of life by assisting Russia?
It is,isn't it?

If that's case the same is true Escapee of Ukraine.

You haven't explained how they are going to win lapsy their sovereignty at 1.52pm nor at any other time I can see timestamped.

Trump will never win a nobel peace prize either, no matter who he attacks to try and get one.

I never said they were going to win,obvious they are trying not to lose,that's a win as such.

They were invaded with no justification except vanity/greed. trump is now helping in that illegal occupation.

Yes Putin man bad man we have heard this a million times, that doesn't make the war winnable for Ukraine. How are they going to keep their sovereignty? Is the plan to just keep going for a few more years until Russia runs out of soldiers? Seems more likely to me that Ukraine will run out first. How do you imagine this will end?

I have no idea.Russia isn't strong as such atm,they have a bloody nose.The likely outcome is Ukraine will lose some of its Eastern territories and peace until the next 'special operation'.

Exactly you have no idea but you are in favour of funding it so that more Ukrainians can die for you. It's great that you will get virtue points for that though in the leftie hug boxes, but the Ukrainians don't want it - they have to be pressed ganged into fighting it for you.

No one wants anyone to die.The Ukrainians are fighting for their lives and freedoms,invaded by people press ganged into that too.
Did you think Ukraine would simply lie down and let Putin do what he wanted? Do you think Putin was morally right to invade? Do you think Trump buying sheet oil from the Russians is helping anyone?

I am beginning to think when Hitler threatened to invade Britain you would have welcomed him.

Ron is just a troll. Do not engage with him.

SNC would be far better off somewhere like Reddit where all the degenerate leftie loons are. Are you still pretending to block me?

It's not a question of who is right and who is wrong, if you are a rational Ukrainian lapsy you would say let's not fight a war unless there is some possibility of a good outcome for the people of Ukraine irregardless of who is to blame. That was possible when we fought Hilter, it's not possible for Ukraine. How many more poor young Ukrainian men need to be sacrificed to the meat grinder before your Putin derangement is satisfied?

He has sacrificed nearly half a million of his own and by that i am satisfied he is deranged,never mind the damage he has done to Russia in making them pariah like.
And it is exactly the only point,the Ukraine was invaded,it did nothing to deserve that, the shocking waste of life can only be blamed on one.
Ukraine will be part of Russia as the UK would have been part of the Reich.

Ukraine was invaded,it did nothing to deserve that - agreed so what - you keep bringing this up as if it has any bearing on whether the war is winnable which it isn't. You must spend less time associating with irrational people. You didn't answer my question how many more poor young Ukrainian men need to be sacrificed to the meat grinder before your Putin derangement lapsy is satisfied? I just need a ball park number to give me some idea of the scale of your blood lust.

How many more?

How do i know,Putin is bombing buses,flats and committing all types of war crimes,do you not think they should defend themselves or simply take whatever is offered to them like half of East Ukraine gone and come back for the rest down the road?

who is killing all those Ukrainians ?

why is he killing them ?

why doesn't he stop killing them ?

People should always defend themselves if it makes sense but it doesn't because there's no possibility of a good outcome for them. I just need a rough number of how many more poor young Ukrainian men need to be sacrificed to the meat grinder before your Putin derangement lapsy is satisfied?

It is evolving through no fault of Ukraine,crass to speak of numbers,they never wanted it but foisted on them.

lapsy pa 10 Oct 26 17:41 
I am beginning to think when Hitler threatened to invade Britain you would have welcomed him.
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I don't think Ron is Irish tbh.

It sounds like you are saying any number would be ok, is that right? If you are saying the numbers don't matter that means you would accept all of them being sacrificed - every single Ukrainian man, and if that's not the case how many would be ok with you?

He isn't British, he is taking Trumps side against the UK.

Your comment btw is a stain on the 10's of thousands of Irish who died in the world wars.

Trumps side against the UK? Are you feeling alright? I am the most patriotic welshman on this forum.

clown is not British, nor does he live in Britain.

Is Escapee your source lapsy for saying I am not British?

You are anti UK as you side with Trump

The clown seems to be almost as mad as Trump. Unfortunately, both have become beyond satire.

How have I sided with Trump against UK lapsy? Even if that were true it wouldn't be evidence of me not being British. Where's the evidence for claiming I am not British? You lefties make assertions like this with zero evidence and then wonder why people don't take your concerns seriously. I thought I was supposed to be the clown.

SNC is right I am a troll, if by troll you mean someone who confronts people about antisemitism.

Bloviator, it's not hard to work out the trolls on this forum. Just block them or completely ignore them.

Feeding them with any form of reply is exactly what they want.

Confronting antisemitism is trolling according to the antisemites.

Ronaldmcdonald Joined: 17 Feb 01
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People should always defend themselves if it makes sense but it doesn't because there's no possibility of a good outcome for them.



is that right? should ukraine have had a referendum post-invasion to discuss the possibility of survival? might be tricky to organise as putins tanks race to kiev and special forces try to kill zelensky

'a good outcome for them'. annexed by putin and then ehtnically cleansed, and a very nasty guerilla war in the west and 20 million more refugees, a puppet state and massive repression just so putin can fulfil his vision of greater russia. thats the outcome

what if you thought they could win? what would you say then? fight with all your might? dont fink so. and they could, but were denied the tools to do so as the top level arms that would have thrown putin out were denied to them for fear of 'escalation'. hence his screams about nuclear weapons. he was terrified of humiliation. the 'special military operation' has endured longer than ww2. some operation

the utter stupidity of this bollox is hard to credit. there would be no war. anywhere. just give it up. you cant win. maybe the u.n. could vote on it and demand the vote-loser surrenders

when the ussr invaded finland everyone thought it was a done deal. but despite the massive difference in numbers the plucky finns fought them off

to follow your 'logic' they shouldnt have bothered. if germany invades belguim? or the u.k. ireland or china taiwan or japan singapore or spain gibraltar or france the channel islands or the u.s mexico, or panama or anywhere it jolly well pleases? cant beat em. just give up. you are an offensive twerp

and an apologist for a neo-hitler. never have i seen from you any criticism of putins capture of state power for his own ends. 26 years and counting, presidents and pm s come and go but putin aint going anywhere. like all dictators, except one, he will die in power

and stop mentioning russia. its not. its putins war

BF since you feel this strongly have you considered going over to Ukraine and volunteering for the front line? I would much rather see the warmongering armchair generals fighting this war than see the Ukrainian men being pressed ganged into it.

nice bit of evasion. i said plenty yet thats all you come up with. its all true isnt it?

im not warmongering. putin is, yet never accused of it. i want it to end. and it will end if ukraine surrenders and gives up its existence or putin dies

you prefer the former

putin apologists should stop lying. they support a brutal dictator who has returned land-war to europe. stop all the lies and diversion about nato and blaming ukraine. putin has given mugs plenty of online propaganda for those who knew nothing about ukraine pre-war, but now talk of ww2 partisans. all supplied by the st petersburg ira

Evading what? I agree Putin is a brutal dictator, that doesn't alter the choices. It's very easy for the armchair generals to send other people to war knowing you don't have to fight it yourself. Are you happy about young Ukrainian men being pressed ganged?

its press-gang

you are being obtuse. you say ukriane should not even be defending their country. they cant win

utter bollox. in that case there would be far fewer countries in the world. russia and china can just take what they want. cant beat em. we would end up with a handful of very big ones swallowing small ones

nato was set up to stop this, hence the baltic states getting in as soon as they freed themselves from the ussr tyranny. without it, its likely putin would have taken them back

as it is, he will annexe belarus and georgia and moldova, who havent managed to get under the nato umbrella. which is why hes holding a chunk of them so he can intervene when they try to act independently. he doesnt like that

thats fine with you isnt it?

Busy, do you think it's his being "The most named person in the files" that lost him the peace prize this year or the war in the middle east?

or something else?

post at 15:30

where do you think he placed when they voted for the nobel peace prize this year? 2nd?

There's always 2027 for mug backers.

You can't answer simple questions BF and that is a sure of sign of people who are not making sincere arguments. Is it OK or not with you for young Ukrainian men to be press ganged?

And you tell me this, if you were walking through Hampstead Heath and chad came along with greater strength and superior weapons and he demanded your wallet would you hand it over? I would hand my wallet over like shot and live to fight another day. Of course I wouldn't be on the heath to start with but that's another matter. Or would you go for the Darwinian award and say no I can't give you my wallet, I am going to pointlessly sacrifice myself fighting you instead because I am in the right and you are morally in the wrong and I have got mates in NATO?

If chad demanded your wallet and your children would you fight to protect your children?

Your scam is to try and pretend nothing in life is worth fighting for.

Isn't it the case that there are more children being killed Escapee when you are fighting a war?

Is there more children being killed today as Starlink appears to be 'turned off' (source BBC) leaving Ukraine fairly defenceless?

Who has ordered that and why?

It's a shame Zelensky ignored the energy truce so blatantly his starlink had to be restricted. Zelensky ignored half a dozen US requests to stop attacking Russian oil refineries.

Do you not think that is because the 'dodgy' ceasefire wasn't being adhered to on the Russian side?

That anyway is moot,the problem is the Iran war and what Trump has done to the price of oil, Russian refineries don't matter,just an excuse really and a very poor one.

There was no choice with Iran, it's a defensive war.

okey dokey.

Musk has said the US government 'seems' to be behind the Starlink 'curbs',to be fair we all kinda knew anyway.
He is helping Putin, you as a proud Welshman must be disappointed given Putins antagonism towards the UK?

It's absurd that you expect America not to co-operate with Russia increasing supply lapsy when there's a severe world diesel shortage. And I dare say you will be the first to complain when you can't get any soy products in the supermarket.

Trumpism is blame Ukraine for the war that i started, i don't know why i did  and i never saw the repercussions until it was too late but it's not me and it is all someone elses fault.
I'm not too pushed with the doubanjiang tbh.

Irregardless of your preferred bean you require you would be getting less of them without Putin's diesel. TDS bros always want to saw off the branch of the tree they are sitting on.

Doesn't buying Putins diesel help him in his war against Ukraine and hence causing more deaths?

That's up to Zelensky. If Zelensky wanted less deaths he would make a deal lapsy with Putin there and then. Instead of that he's press ganging young men into the meat grinder like its going out of fashion.

What deal? And you think Putin would abide by it,don't be so naive.

Zelensky will obviously need to concede territory there's no two ways about it. If Putin didn't stick to the deal the war would be back on what's naive about that? You think Putin is going to continue to waste precious resources on a war if he can make a deal? He's an evil dictator he's not bonkers.

I'd see it that he would agree to that (getting territory) but when his 'precious resources' are nearly full again he would want the rest.

Unless you have mind reading abilities you don't know lapsy what Putin would do afterwards, but logically it would not make any sense for him to do that.

the attempt to smear zelensky in an existential struggle againt an evil brute trying destroy your country and make it part of his empire is despicable

dictators dont make sense. they are surrounded by yes-men terrified of telling them the truth. see adolf, stalin. mao.on and on

putin isnt wasting 'precious' resorces' hes using criminals released to the front line and north koreans and is trying not to use troops from 'heartland' russia becuase he saw what happened before when thousands of corpses were returned to russia after the afghan disaster. people got quite upset about a needless war they wanted no part of. just like this one

he doesnt give ash1t about human life

and talking of making a deal. how about this one? the budapest agreement signed by russia and ukraine

ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons and in return;

'The Russian Federation reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations'

hows that going?

thats what any deal is worth. nothing. putin fanboys dont like to talk about it

what a calamity that deal has proved. if ukraine had not signed up to give away their weapons there would be no war. how they must regret that act of naivete and more important, there would be 1 million people not dead becuase of putins megalomania

ronmac a shameful victim-blaming apologist for a fascist brute

I haven't blamed any victims BF, I was speaking FOR the Ukrainian people. I said I don't want them press ganged into fighting a war. What is it with all these armchair generals who want Ukrainians to fight a war you are not willing to volunteer for yourselves, but you tell me if I wrong in saying that, are you going to volunteer for the front line?

post blocked. walofs

If the AI censor has started blocking posts now just for being bad faith arguments it's outrageous.

Ukraine only had 2 choices. Resist Russian aggression or go back to being part of Russia and being ruled by Putin. Neither choice was very good so they have ended up in 4 years of destruction with much loss of life..

A rational person would choose the least bad of the 2 choices.

Trump is facilitating the loss of life by turning off starlink and today waiving sanctions, simply trying to get Ukraine to surrender, disgusting as it is for him to spout more rubbish re peace in time for the midterms. A quisling.

How many more lives have been lost by not surrendering?

I think what ron is saying is that Kennedy was wrong and he should not have risked everyones lives by taking a stand at the "cuban missile crisis".

Surrender to all attacks is what he is saying.


of course, he's only saying that because he is working for the attackers.